061 -- Health Matters -- coping with chronic illness and pain

What is it like to live in a body that has fundamentally betrayed you? Whether by acute illness or long-term crud, some people just break. How does that feel? How can you help?And do the people inside those bodies still matter? Because, too often, they don't feel like they do.Huge thanks to Natalie from Some Kind of Brown for being vulnerable and courageous. Go to her podcast to hear her story.Disclaimer: Derek, from Sometimes Geek and Rolling MisadventuresPromos: Selling Out and Big ConversationsSponsor: Bath By Bex (code CBDkate for 15% off)