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EPISODE · Apr 24, 2026 · 35 MIN

#069 - The Multimodal Road to AGI with Luma AI COO Caroline Ingeborn

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This week on GAEA Talks Live from HumanX, Graeme Scott sits down with Caroline Ingeborn - COO of Luma AI, former CEO and co-founder of Leap, former CEO, President and COO of Toca Boca, and one of the most experienced operators in the world of creative technology.Caroline's career has been spent at the crossroads of technology, creativity and product leadership. She helped build Toca Boca into one of the world's most loved kids' creative software companies, co-founded Leap, and is now COO of Luma AI, the foundational AI research lab building multimodal general intelligence. Luma's thesis is that LLMs alone will not reach AGI - intelligence that can reason, operate and create alongside humans has to be unified across language, image, video, 3D and audio. Luma recently launched Uni 1, its first unified model trained jointly on image and language, and has built a product suite - Luma Agents and the Forward Deployed Creatives team - that turns those models into daily tools for the world's top creative professionals.In this episode, recorded live at HumanX 2026 in San Francisco, Caroline explains why the research community's decision to plumb modalities together is now being replaced with truly unified models, what is really happening inside the Dream Brief collaboration with Diane that submitted twenty one AI-generated finalists to Cannes Lions, and why the real story of 2026 is not that AI is replacing creatives - it is that twenty and thirty-year career creatives are now using AI as a creative collaborator.What you'll take away from this conversation:Why LLMs alone cannot get us to AGI - and what a unified model really looks likeInside Uni 1 - Luma's first jointly trained image and language model - and why it matters for the path to AGIThe two shifts happening right now in creative AI - and why they are compoundingWhy no one needs to become a prompt engineer any more - and what takes its placeWhy the next decade belongs to people who have spent twenty or thirty years in the creative industriesThe Dream Brief story - seven hundred AI-generated ads, a million-dollar Cannes Lions prize, and what it provedThe "creative process is non-linear now" realisation - and what that does to agency economicsWhy Luma's researchers work shoulder-to-shoulder with in-house creatives - and the feedback loop that createsHow the local car dealership example explains where brand marketing is really headingWhy the "back to the Future with a different lead actor" example is the perfect lens on AI and riskThe cultural humility problem with foundation models - and why Luma takes it seriouslyThe dreaming across modalities analogy - and why it is the simplest explanation of why multimodal mattersAbout Caroline Ingeborn:Caroline Ingeborn is the COO of Luma AI, the foundational research lab and product company building multimodal generative intelligence for creative work. She was previously co-founder and CEO of Leap, and before that CEO, President and COO of Toca Boca, one of the most successful kids' creative technology companies ever built. She is a board member, advisor, investor and entrepreneur-in-residence at several leading technology companies.GAEA Talks is the enterprise AI podcast for leaders navigating the age of artificial intelligence. Subscribe for weekly conversations with the people shaping the future of business, technology and society.Caroline Ingeborn on LinkedIn:   / ingeborn  Luma AI: https://lumalabs.aiHumanX: https://www.humanx.coGAEA AI: https://gaealgm.ai#AI #ArtificialIntelligence #GAEATalks #GAEATalksLive #HumanX #HumanX2026 #LumaAI #Multimodal #AGI #CreativeAI #AIVideo #AIAgents #DreamMachine #CannesLions #AIPodcast #GAEAAI

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