#07: Zig Multiplatform w/ Justin

“The age of the idea guys has begun.” Justin & Gigi vibe about Zig. Articles mentioned: LLMs as a tool for thought by Amelia Wattenberger Micropayments and Mental Transaction Costs by Nick Szabo How our interfaces have lost their senses by Amelia Wattenberger Talks mentioned: The Art of Bitcoin Rhetoric by Bitstein Books mentioned: Human Action by Ludwig von Mises Working in Public by Nadia Eghbal In this dialogue: nak Files SyncThing (and how it BitTorrent Sync became Resilio Sync) Convention over configuration Changes & speciation File systems as sources of truth Vibe-coding shower thoughts Inspiration and The Muse Justin's LLM setup Tony's setup (o1-pro as the architect) Being okay with paying for LLMs Anthropomorphising LLMs Dialog, rubber-duck debugging, and the process of thinking Being nice and mean to LLMs Battlebots & Gladiators Hedging your bets by being nice to Skynet Pascal's Wager for AI Thinking models vs non-thinking faster models Sandwich-style LLM prompting, again (waterfall stuff, HLDD / LLDD) Cursor rules & Paul's Prompt Buddy Giving lots of context vs giving specific context The benefit of LLMs figuring out obscure bugs in minutes (instead of days) The phase change of fast iteration and vibe coding Idea level vs coding level High-level vs low-level languages Gigi's "vibeline" Peterson's Logos vs Vervaeke's Dia-Logos Entering into a conversation with technology Introducing MCPs into your workflow How does Claude think? How does it create a rhyme? How does thinking work? And how does it relate to dialogue? Gzuuus' DVMCP & using nostr as an AI substrate Language Server Protocols (LSPs) VAAS: Vibe-coding as a service Open models vs proprietary models What Cursor got right What ChatGPT got right What Google got right Tight integration of tools & remaining in a flow state LLMs as conversational partners The cost of context switching Conversational flow & how to stay in it Prompts VS diary entries Solving technical vs philosophical models Buying GPUs & training your own models Training LLMs to understand Zig Preventing entryism by writing no documentation Thin layers & alignment layers Working in public & thinking in public Building a therapist / diary / notes / idea / task system "The age of the idea guys has begun." Daemons and spirits Monological VS dialogical thinking Yes-men and disagreeable LLMs Energy cost vs human cost Paying by the meter vs paying a subscription The equivalence of storage and compute Thinking needs memory, and memory is about the future Nostr+ecash as the perfect AI+human substrate Real cost, real consequence, and Human Action The cost of words & speaking Costly signals and free markets From shitcoin tokens to LLM tokens to ecash tokens Being too close to the metal & not seeing the forest for the trees Power users vs engineers Participatory knowing and actually using the tools Nostr as the germination ground for ecash What is Sovereign Engineering? LLVM and the other side of the bell-curve How nostr gives you users, discovery, mircopayments, a backend, and many other things for free Echo chambers & virality Authenticity & Realness Growing on the edges, catering to the fringe You don't own your iPhone GrapheneOS WebRTC and other monolithic "open" standards Optimizing for the wrong thing Building a nostr phone & Gigi's dream flow Using nostr to sync dotfile setups and other things "There are no solutions, only trade-offs" Cross-platform development Native vs non-native implementations Vitor's point on what we mean by native Does your custom UI framework work for blind people? Ladybird browser & how to build a browser from scratch TempleOS Form follows function & 90's interfaces Lamentations on the state of modern browsers Complexity & the downfall of the Legacy Web Nostr as the "new internet" Talks by Ladybird developer Andreas Kling Will's attempt of building it from scratch with Notedeck & nostr-db Justin's attempt with rust-multiplatform "If it doesn't have a rust implementation, you shouldn't use it." Native in terms of speed vs native in terms of UI/UX Engineer the logic, vibe-code the UI From Excalidraw to app in minutes What can you one-shot? What do you need to care about? Pablo's NDK snippets 7GUIs and GUI benchmarks for LLMs "Now we're purpose-building tools to make it easier for LLMs" "Certain tools really make your problems go away." Macros and meta-programming Zig's comptime UNIX tools and pipes Simple tools & composability Nostr tools for iOS & sharing developer signing keys Building 10 apps as one guy Simplicity in a community context Most people are on phones Most people don't install PWAs Zapstore & building our own distribution channels Web-of-trust and pushing builds quickly Improving homebrew by 10x (Micro)payments for package managers Guix and bitcoin-core Nix vs Guix Reproducible builds & web-of-trust Keet vs "calling an npub" Getting into someone's notifications Removing the character limit was a mistake Recorded at 889,812.