EPISODE · Jul 22, 2025 · 1H 22M
09. The Leader’s Search for Joy
from The Illumify Game Changer · host Marianne Gobeil
This episode goes right to the heart of it, exploring the connection between joy and igniting meaningful change. It’s interesting that Jonathan, a self-described non-believer, is so attuned to the soul. 00:55 Reference Cards: The difference between “I think”, “I believe”, and I know” 05:40 Illuminate Card 8 11:00 There’s joy in being with the crowd. It’s uplifting. 12:35 What does worship mean? 15:25 Joy as an outpouring, going over the limits, uncontained 16:00 Joy as the fuel of the soul 18:40 Digging for dignity, where the human starts, the part that can’t be taken away. 20:55 Feeding vs fueling the soul 22:55 Is it possible to admire one’s self? 25:00 Fully accepting all of one’s self is not easy 29:30 Surviving vs. thriving 35:00 “Come on then” -- A childhood story never told before 40:55 “At some point, fear becomes intolerable.” 45:29 Back to worship… A plea or a provocation? 50:45 Going to a concert is a conscious desire to go beyond your limits. 52:05 “As a non-believer, I am very comfortable saying that worship is healthy and necessary, and fulfilling some deep need that I don’t fully understand.” 55:55. “When we’re radiant, I see it as the soul expanding at that moment and filling the person. At that moment, there’s nothing but the soul.” 58:20 An anecdote of joy walking 1:03:50 Joy is a unique emotion, deeply connected to the soul. 1:04:44 Can we ignite meaningful change without tapping into our soul? 1:11:50 Going back to the source where we refuel ourselves. 1:13:00 What brings you joy? [“A moment of expansion when we become bigger than ourselves.” 1:14:47 Lack of joy in state of survival 1:17:00 Final answer [“We just need to be plugged in again.”] Produced by NOVA
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