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EPISODE · Nov 11, 2025 · 1H 7M

090: Joe Schock | Redefining Sobriety: AA, Depression & Psychedelics

from Entrepreneurs In Recovery · host Jesse Harless

Want To Watch Entrepreneurs In Recovery?Watch Here: https://www.youtube.com/@jesseharless I sit down with recovery veteran Joe Schock to explore how AA, depression, and psychedelic tools can coexist. Joe shares the windowsill moment that cracked open his thinking and how microdosing plus rigorous integration practices helped him reframe powerlessness into agency—without abandoning the foundation that kept him alive.Connect With Joe:https://www.joeschock.com/ Moments From the Show00:00:00 – Intro01:27 – 27 years sober & early depression diagnosis03:42 – Sponsor, God, and the windowsill plant05:52 – Stigma, relapse fear, and secret curiosity07:47 – First plant medicine experience11:00 – A calling to serve after loss19:22 – First steps if you’re struggling beyond meetings21:50 – “Contempt prior to investigation” in real life28:44 – Microdosing in recovery: assessment & safeguards31:49 – Why both of us waited 13–15 years to try medicine40:41 – Powerlessness vs agency: the sober reframe56:00 – Joe’s depression protocol & titration approach01:01:03 – Retreats, Vital Psychedelic Training​, and facilitation 10 Essentials for Psychedelic Preparation & Integration: https://shorturl.at/jEJG3 My Book - If Not You, Then Who? https://www.amazon.com/dp/1733531610My Coaching Program https://www.jesseharless.com/coaching Submit To The Show Your Questions, Challenges, Issues, Share Your Storyhttps://form.jotform.com/242276390225051 Life Saving Routines With Hal Elrod | Entrepreneurs In Recovery Ep 030 https://youtu.be/I2bjdgIkL0I Connect With JesseWebsite: https://www.entrepreneursinrecovery.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/JesseHarless222Facebook:   https://www.facebook.com/JesseHarless22Links To More: https://linktr.ee/jesseharless222 Get Your Genome Report https://thednacompany.com/jesseharless  Psychedelic Concierge https://www.jesseharless.com/experienceThe Entrepreneurs in Recovery podcast is for those interested in finding healing from addictions, trauma, and attachments that hold them back from sharing their authentic voice and message with the world. We showcase a wide variety of guests specializing in holistic health, mental health, wealth, addiction, trauma, spirituality, habit change, entrepreneurship, psychedelics, integration, and more. Hosted by Jesse Harless, interviewing individuals who overcame tremendous odds in order to find their innate greatness within and share their endeavors with the world. You’ll hear helpful tools, ideas, vulnerability, synchronicities, and inspiring stories that will impact your mind, body, and soul.  #EntrepreneursInRecovery #addiction #podcast

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