EPISODE · Nov 6, 2025 · 17 MIN
#092: Real Talk on Burnout, Boundaries, and Better Leadership
from Take The Leap · host Victoria Proppe & Ashlan Glazier-Anderson
Welcome to the 6th episode of Take the Leap's third season. In today’s episode, “Real Talk on Burnout, Boundaries, and Better Leadership,” co-hosts Ashlan and Victoria debrief their conversation with Zhou Fang, founder and principal practitioner of Intersectional Group. We revisit the biggest ideas from that interview: intersectionality, slowing down, choosing abundance over scarcity, and what it looks like to practice those concepts as founders right now. Key Takeaways from the Episode: Leading with nuance because most real-world problems aren’t binary and we must make room for multiple truths. Progress needs courageous, respectful dialogue–especially across difference. Building workflows that honor life systems, not just deadlines. Practicing abundance, even when stress spikes, you should pause, re-ground, and act from a space of abundance rather than scarcity. Our Fave Media Right Now: Tory shared The Veiled Kingdom by Holly Renee: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/204624472-the-veiled-kingdom Ashlan shared Alien Earth TV series on FX: https://www.hulu.com/series/ac314a24-c615-48ee-8e24-b26de75e64ef If you’d like to listen to Zhou Fang’s episode, you can find it at the links below: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/practicing-intersectional-leadership-with-zhou-fang/id1735641469?i=1000735226606 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0yXq2HBiHVATGtwgQ5bk09?si=jKO39kGIRpCkAvILbdHJkQ YouTube: https://youtu.be/5S3a8NBTSDc?si=Vv3t57uQdrSmxIR8 Listen to Ashlan’s conversation with Zhou Fang on The Intersection Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3w9J1iRMP2dZ0A20NTo0p5?si=Lvva-bf6TYmn4IOES0IdzQ Host information:Co-Host, Ashlan Glazier-Anderson, Owner of AshbeanPDX MarketingCo-Host, Victoria (Tory) Proppe, Owner of Imagine Marketing StrategiesConnect with us:Subscribe to our YouTube channel:https://www.youtube.com/@TaketheLeap-Today Follow us on Instagram @taketheleap_today:https://www.instagram.com/taketheleap_today The Course: The Take the Leap course contains everything you need to know to successfully launch your business now. Sign up today to join the course and get support from Ashlan & Tory who will guide you through your journey as a new entrepreneur.Sign up here: https://www.taketheleap-today.com/the-course Like our content? Be sure to subscribe and review! Want to keep in touch? Find us on:YoutubeInstagram
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Welcome to the 6th episode of Take the Leap's third season. In today’s episode, “Real Talk on Burnout, Boundaries, and Better Leadership,” co-hosts Ashlan and Victoria debrief their conversation with Zhou Fang, founder and principal practitioner of Intersectional Group. We revisit the biggest ideas from that interview: intersectionality, slowing down, choosing abundance over scarcity, and what it looks like to practice those concepts as founders right now. Key Takeaways from the Episode...
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