098: Is the Papacy True? (w/ Joe Heschmeyer, Dr. Gavin Ortlund, and Austin Suggs)

In our second  crossover episode, I'm joined by Austin Suggs from Gospel Simplicity as we host an incredible conversation with Joe Heschmeyer and Dr. Gavin Ortlund on the papacy: The Pope. Did Christ intend to establish a Church with the Pope at its head? What do we find in the Early Church Fathers? Did the first Christians believe in a Pope? Is  it clear from the Bible? Tradition? These questions, and many more, are tackled in this sprawling and deeply engaging conversation between two incredibly cordial, articulate, and intelligent Christian thinkers. Austin and I were absolutely blessed to be able to host this conversation. You can watch this interview on Austin's wildly popular YouTube channel Gospel Simplicity. For more from Joe visit his website Shameless Popery and check out The Catholic Podcast. For more from Gavin visit his website and his YouTube channel Truth Unites.For more, visit The Cordial Catholic. Send your feedback to [email protected]. Please consider financially supporting this show! For more information visit the Patreon page.  All patrons receive access to exclusive content and if you can give $5/mo or more you'll also be entered into monthly draws for fantastic books hand-picked by me.If you'd like to give a one-time donation to The Cordial Catholic, you can visit the PayPal page.Thank you to those already supporting the show!A very special thanks to our Patreon co-producers who make this show possible: Amanda, Elli and Tom, Fr. Larry, Gina, Heather, James, Jorg, Michelle, Noah, Robert, Shelby, Susanne and Victor, and William.Support the showFind and follow The Cordial Catholic on social media:Instagram: @cordialcatholicTwitter: @cordialcatholicYouTube: /thecordialcatholicFacebook: The Cordial CatholicTikTok: @cordialcatholic