099: Deep Chats with a Sex Therapist: Spontaneous Vs. Responsive Desire, Kink and Internalized Shame, and Ketamine Assisted Therapy

In this episode, Elle and Vee dive deep with a psychotherapist who they refer to as Wonder Woman on this episode for the sake of anonymity.  With specializations in sex therapy and ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, the girls pick her brain on everything from desire discrepancy to the most common issues within couples, from what a ketamine-assisted psychotherapy session actually looks like to neuroplasticity. Psychotherapy vs. Psychoanalysis: what is the difference? (1:58)Top reasons couples seek sex therapy counseling: both gay and cis-het couples, and individuals. (5:15)Spontaneous desire vs responsive desire: a dive into libido differences and desire discrepancy. (6:25)Is there a way to get spontaneous desire back? Esther Perel’s Mating in Captivity. (13:33)The Dual Control Model (Sexual Brakes and Accelerators): a concept from Emily Nagoski’s book Come As You Are and her 2nd book Come Together. (20:57)Kink and shame: how to bring you kinky desires up to your partner and working through internalized shame. (26:12)Kink as shadows: how roleplaying can help one work through shame with reframing and control. (30:02)Kink isn’t always about processing something. Heteroflexible male-male play as a “taboo kink”. (31:27)Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy: how to use it properly, and how it’s being done irresponsibly. (35:17)How neuroplasticity works in the brain using the snow track analogy by Michael Pollan, author of the book How to Change Your Mind.  (47:24)Ketamine Assisted Couples Psychotherapy. (53:02)Final Nugget: Keeping the idea of play and pleasure at the forefront. (53:57)Support the show______How to Support the Show: 💰 Donate Here 💋Linktree: https://linktr.ee/girlsgonedeep 🎧 Instagram: @girlsgonedeeppod🛍️ Merch: girlsgonedeep.com/shop  — wear your kinks proudly.🍑 Woo More Play: Shop with our affiliate link — support the pod while you stock up on your favorite pleasure essentials.🪄 WAANDS™:  Crystal Pleasure Products HERE. Get 15% off with code GIRLSGONEDEEP🔮 WHOREible Life: Get 10% off your game deck with code GONEDEEP at whoreiblelife.com  IG: @wlthegame🔥 Naughty Disco’s Sexy NYC Dance Party: code GONEDEEP69 for 15% off any event ticket  IG: @naughtydisco💌 Contact: [email protected]© 2025 GGD Alchemy, LLC. All Rights Reserved.