1.08: Depth: How to stage the room for healing, momentum, and serious progress

In episode eight, Tim and Tuesday empathize with facilitators and collaborators separated by organizational difference or mandates — and explore how to go deep and draw out the greatest value.1.08 —— SHOW NOTESRecent favourite binge-worthy shows: The Good Place and Occupied.When we set up people in a circle, we invariably wind up having it feel like therapy. This can make some of us feel open, and others feel resistant. As facilitators, what can we do to position depth as a path to the outcomes we want?Question: Where does this fear of depth come from? What’s the narrative that makes staying out of depth and treating people as sub-human permissable?Some people feel compelled to protect the patriarchy / white supremacy—especially those who have wealth, or who generate wealth for other people. —TuesdayIn change, people often struggle with leadership because they fear the work will cause a loss of relationships. This has a lot to do with the mechanistic worldview that is responsible for setting up our organizations, when we didn’t realize the interconnectedness of things, and when we treat human organizations as machines, striving for efficiency.This organizational structure not only fails to acknowledge people’s humanity, but is fundamentally oppressive. It’s not like these organizations set free people’s potential.Question: What allows or justifies the perpetuation of systems that are so unkind?If you can make non-emotional judgement calls, you’re successful. That’s part of the programming I received from my parents: that you actually can’t lead if you’re empathetically or emotionally engaged with people. — TimSong of the day: Frank Turner’s Be More KindPoem of the day: Self Portrait by David WhyteIt doesn't interest me if there is one Godor many gods.I want to know if you belong or feelabandoned.If you know despair or can see it in others.I want to knowif you are prepared to live in the worldwith its harsh needto change you. If you can look backwith firm eyessaying this is where I stand. I want to knowif you knowhow to melt into that fierce heat of livingfalling towardthe center of your longing. I want to knowif you are willingto live, day by day, with the consequence of loveand the bitterunwanted passion of your sure defeat.I have heard, in that fierce embrace, eventhe gods speak of God. -- David Whyte from Fire in the Earth ©1992 Many Rivers PressSubscribe to the podcast now—in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher or anywhere else you find podcasts. New episodes will be available every second Tuesday. If you’d like to get in touch with us about something you heard on the show, reach us at [email protected]. Find the song we played in today’s show—and every song we’ve played in previous shows—on the playlist. Just search ‘Find the Outside’ on Spotify.Duration: 45:45Produced by: Mark Coffin @ Sound Good StudiosTheme music: Gary BlakemoreEpisode cover image: source Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.