1.17 Stephen Wellum, David Schrock • Interview • "Incarnation Versus Excarnation in Culture and Church"

How has Gnosticism—an ancient idea that we must escape our physical bodies—influenced transgenderism, euthanasia, and 120-pound women beating grown men in martial arts movie scenes? And what does a double decker bus have to do with it? Listen in to Stephen Wellum and David Schrock as they discuss P. Andrew Sandlin's hard hitting longform essay.  Timestamps 0:32 - Intro 2:33 – What is incarnation and excarnation? 3:36 – How Hymns Speak of Christ’s Incarnation 5:32 – Excarnation Defined 6:20 – What is Gnosticism? 10:21 – What are ways we have lost the Doctrine of Creation? 12:24 – How does the Doctrine of Creation inform our thinking about the world? 14:18 – Bodies becoming ‘tools’ for the inner man 16:30 – How has our culture impacted the Church through ‘disembodied living’? 19:41 – ‘Cyber’-Disciples 22:02 – A Theology of the Body 24:15 – Glorifying God in an ‘Embodied’ Sense 27:04 – Creation Mandate’s Rejection Impacts Our Culture 30:12 – Celebrating the Incarnation brings us back to a right understanding of the body 35:45 - Outro