1.6 - Sukkah Daf 02 B (20 lines Up)

Today’s learning sponsoredSponsor a day's learning (thousands of minutes!) for only $72 click herehttps://www.flipcause.com/secure/cause_pdetails/ODUwOTUThree amoraim quoted Rav differently in limiting the machlokes between Rabbi Yehuda (a sukkah higher than 20 amos is kosher) and the Chachomim (it is possul) in our mishna (1.1).Rabbi Yoshiya made it dependent on whether the walls reach the schach (1.4).Rav Huna made it dependent on whether the area is greater than four square amos (1.4).Rav Chanan bar Rabbah made it dependent on whether the area is greater than seven square tefachim (1.5).SummaryChallenge:Beraisa: A sukkah higher than 20 amos is possul. Rabbi Yehuda: Even forty or fifty amos is kosher.Rabbi Yehuda: It happened that Queen Helene’s sukkah in Lod was higher than 20 amos, yet the Zekeinim did not comment when they visited.Chachomim: She was a woman, and not commanded in sukkah.Rabbi Yehuda: But didn’t she have seven sons? Besides, she did everything according to the rabbis.Question: Why is “besides” necessary?Answer: In case you would say that the sons were little and also not commanded to sit in the sukkah; but since there were seven of them, the oldest must have already been the age where he ‘no longer needs his mother’ and must be in the sukkah.Now, even though it is only a rabbinic obligation for a boy who ‘no longer needs his mother’ to sit in the sukkah, she did everything according to the rabbis.This beraisa discusses the debate between Rabbi Yehuda and the Chachomim which was explained differently by Rabbi Yoshiya, Rav Huna and Rav Chanan bar Rabbah.According to Rabbi Yoshiya this beraisa raises no challenge . Their debate is in a case where the walls do not reach the schach, which could have very well been the case with the queen’s sukkah,which may have been built that way to provide ventilation.According to Rav Huna and Rav Chanan bar Rabbah that the debate is only with regard to a small sukkah, would the queen have been using a small sukkah?Rabbah bar Rav Ada: The sukkah was made up of little rooms.Challenge: Would the queen be using such a sukkah?Rav Ashi: It was a large sukkah with little cubicles in it.The Chachomim say that the zekeinim didn’t comment since her sons were seated in the main sukkah and only she was in the cubicle, for privacy.Rabbi Yehuda says that her sons were with her in the cubicle, and still the zekeinim didn’t comment since a high sukkah is kosher. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate