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EPISODE · Jun 13, 2026 · 20 MIN

1. The one question that decides your exit.

from Job or Asset? · host John Lay

Most owners think selling is about finding a buyer. The evidence says otherwise. Host John Lay, founder of Three Circles Agency, puts the deal room and the research side by side on one question: are you selling a job, or an asset? He introduces the show’s central image, the risk pendulum that swings toward buyer or seller in every deal.Then, he walks the five lenses a buyer uses:Finance, Operations, Marketing, Team, Customer experiencePlus, why only about three in ten marketed businesses sell, why roughly half of all exits are forced, and why most who sell regret it within a year.Sources:Akerlof (1970), QJE, the “lemons”/uncertainty problem. DeTienne (2010), Journal of Business Venturing, exit as a process. Hytti et al. (2025), Int’l Journal of Management and Enterprise Development, 1,200+ Finnish SMEs (planning, not exit route, kept firms adaptive). EPI National State of Owner Readiness (~70% of marketed businesses don’t sell; ~50% of exits forced by the 5 Ds; ~76% regret within a year; ~60% no personal post-exit plan). Valuation practice (key-person/owner-dependence discount ~20–50%; customer-concentration discount ~0.5–1 turn of EBITDA; quality-of-earnings haircut ~20%). Silver-tsunami demographics (~half of owners 55+; ~12M+ businesses may change hands over the next decade).Disclaimer. Job or Asset is produced by Three Circles Agency (TCA) and is provided for general informational and educational purposes only. It does not constitute, and should not be relied upon as, legal, tax, accounting, financial, investment, valuation, or medical advice, and it is not a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any business, security, or financial product. Listening to this podcast, contacting TCA, or downloading any TCA material does not create an attorney-client, accountant-client, fiduciary, broker, or advisory relationship of any kind. TCA is a business-consulting firm. It is not a law firm, accounting firm, registered investment adviser, broker-dealer, or licensed business broker, and it does not provide legal, tax, or investment advice. Always consult your own qualified, licensed professionals before making any decision regarding the purchase, sale, financing, structuring, taxation, or operation of a business or practice. Statistics, multiples, interest rates, and figures mentioned are believed accurate as of the recording date but are general in nature and subject to change; they may not apply to your situation. Academic research is cited to illustrate ideas and mechanisms; practitioner and industry figures are estimates that vary by business, market, and time. Any client examples are illustrative composites and do not depict real, identifiable clients. The views expressed are those of the host. TCA makes no warranty as to the a...

Most owners think selling is about finding a buyer. The evidence says otherwise. Host John Lay, founder of Three Circles Agency, puts the deal room and the research side by side on one question: are you selling a job, or an asset? He introduces the show’s central image, the risk pendulum that swings toward buyer or seller in every deal. Then, he walks the five lenses a buyer uses: Finance, Operations, Marketing, Team, Customer experiencePlus, why only about three in ...

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