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Apr 22, 2025 1 hr 36 min

#10: Walking with Jesus w/ gzuuus

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"It's gonna be permissionless or hell." Gigi and gzuuus are vibing towards dystopia. Books & articles mentioned: AI 2027 DVMs were a mistake Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams Takedown by Laila michelwait The Ultimate Resource by Julian L. Simon Harry Potter by J.K. Rowling Momo by Michael Ende In this dialogue: Pablo's Roo Setup Tech Hype Cycles AI 2027 Prompt injection and other attacks Goose and DVMCP Cursor vs Roo Code Staying in control thanks to Amber and signing delegation Is YOLO mode here to stay? What agents to trust? What MCP tools to trust? What code snippets to trust? Everyone will run into the issues of trust and micropayments Nostr solves Web of Trust & micropayments natively Minimalistic & open usually wins DVMCP exists thanks to Totem Relays as Tamagochis Agents aren't nostr experts, at least not right now Fix a mistake once & it's fixed forever Giving long-term memory to LLMs RAG Databases signed by domain experts Human-agent hybrids & Chess Nostr beating heart Pluggable context & experts "You never need an API key for anything" Sats and social signaling Difficulty-adjusted PoW as a rare-limiting mechanism Certificate authorities and centralization No solutions to policing speech! OAuth and how it centralized Login with nostr Closed vs open-source models Tiny models vs large models The minions protocol (Stanford paper) Generalist models vs specialized models Local compute & encrypted queries Blinded compute "In the eyes of the state, agents aren't people" Agents need identity and money; nostr provides both "It's gonna be permissionless or hell" We already have marketplaces for MCP stuff, code snippets, and other things Most great stuff came from marketplaces (browsers, games, etc) Zapstore shows that this is already working At scale, central control never works. There's plenty scams and viruses in the app stores. Using nostr to archive your user-generated content HAVEN, blossom, novia The switcharoo from advertisements to training data What is Truth? What is Real? "We're vibing into dystopia" Who should be the arbiter of Truth? First Amendment & why the Logos is sacred Silicon Valley AI bros arrogantly dismiss wisdom and philosophy Suicide rates & the meaning crisis Are LLMs symbiotic or parasitic? The Amish got it right Are we gonna make it? Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams Takedown by Laila michelwait Harry Potter dementors & Momo's time thieves Facebook & Google as non-human (superhuman) agents Zapping as a conscious action Privacy and the internet Plausible deniability thanks to generative models Google glasses, glassholes, and Meta's Ray Ben's People crave realness Bitcoin is the realest money we ever had Nostr allows for real and honest expression How do we find out what's real? Constraints, policing, and chilling effects Jesus' plans for DVMCP Hzrd's article on how DVMs are broken (DVMs were a mistake) Don't believe the hype DVMs pre-date MCP tools Data Vending Machines were supposed to be stupid: put coin in, get stuff out. Self-healing vibe-coding IP addresses as scarce assets Atomic swaps and the ASS protocol More marketplaces, less silos The intensity of #SovEng and the last 6 weeks If you can vibe-code everything, why build anything? Time, the ultimate resource What are the LLMs allowed to think? Natural language interfaces are inherently dialogical Sovereign Engineering is dialogical too Recorded at 892,372.

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  1. 0:00 Roo Setup
  2. 8:13 Agent Trust
  3. 16:02 Relay Tamagotchis
  4. 21:51 No API Keys
  5. 32:04 Open vs Closed
  6. 39:45 Permissionless or Hell
  7. 48:06 Training Data
  8. 55:58 LLM Symbiosis
  9. 1:04:08 Conscious Zaps
  10. 1:12:09 Chilling Effects
  11. 1:18:58 Scarce IPs
  12. 1:30:14 Dialogical SovEng

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