EPISODE · Sep 26, 2025 · 30 MIN
1019: JVL Knows This Will Piss People Off | Secret Podcast
from The Next Level · host The Bulwark
Sarah and JVL talk about big-tent liberalism—who’s in and who’s out of the l-word tent. JVL goes on a riff on Henry Kissinger, which you are absolutely going to HATE.And then we get the main event: JVL doesn’t think [gestures broadly] all this is fixable. Sarah has a plan to fix it. Who’s right?
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