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EPISODE · Dec 30, 2024 · 42 MIN

102 - EBITDA vs. SDE: What Every Business Buyer Needs to Know with Dennis Unrein

from Nikonomics - The Economics of Small Business · host Nikolas Hulewsky

🚨MY NEWSLETTER https://nikolas-newsletter-241a64.beehiiv.com/subscribe 🚨Join me Nik (https://x.com/CoFoundersNik) as I sit down with Dennis Unrein (https://x.com/dennis_unrein), a micro VC and SMB-focused investor, to discuss the evolving world of micro private equity and self-funded searchers. Dennis shares his journey from JP Morgan to launching Private Ventures Group (PVG), a firm that helps high-net-worth investors and family offices tap into private markets. We break down concepts like SPVs (Special Purpose Vehicles), the difference between EBITDA and SDE, and how to use media-driven strategies to find compelling deals.In this episode, we also explore the growing trend of acquiring businesses in niche industries like elderly care and telecommunications testing, and why investing in retiring baby boomer businesses offers unique opportunities. Questions this Episode Answers:What is a self-funded searcher, and how does it differ from a traditional search model?How do SPVs simplify investments and deal flow for small businesses?Why are retiring baby boomer-owned businesses a goldmine for acquisitions?How can SDE and EBITDA metrics guide smart business purchases?What are the best industries to invest in right now for small-scale private equity?Enjoy the conversation!__________________________Love it or hate it, I'd love your feedback.Please fill out this brief survey with your opinion or send me an email at [email protected] with your thoughts.__________________________MY NEWSLETTER: https://nikolas-newsletter-241a64.beehiiv.com/subscribeSpotify: https://tinyurl.com/5avyu98yApple: https://tinyurl.com/bdxbr284YouTube: https://tinyurl.com/nikonomicsYT___________________________This week we covered:00:00 Understanding Investment Metrics: SDE, Cashflow, and EBITDA02:55 Navigating the Micro VC and SMB PE Landscape05:47 The Shift to Self-Funded Searchers09:07 Exploring the Self-Funded Searcher Model11:54 Differentiating Between SDE and EBITDA15:08 Demystifying Special Purpose Vehicles (SPVs)21:05 Understanding Investment Entities and K-1 Partnerships22:58 The Financial Burden of Self-Funded Searchers24:24 Equity Structures in Self-Funded Searches26:44 Navigating Debt and Equity in Business Acquisitions29:40 The Risks of Operator Dependency in Self-Funded Deals31:58 Building Deal Flow Through Content Creation34:54 The Two and Twenty Model Explained36:23 Advisory and Investment Strategies in SMBs38:49 Identifying Opportunities in the SMB Space

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