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Hello to all and all, I hope you're doing well. For this 103rd episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with Harold Parizeau, the founder of Chinese Business Club. Créé in 2012, the Chinese Business Club is today the first business business firm reuniting entrepreneurs, investors, journalists, politicians, diplomats, and chefs of business. With more than 100 sociétés membres and 12 events par an in Paris, his mission is to develop and strengthen the economy economy between France and the international.
In this super exchange, we have discussed many topics. The environment in which he grew up, the creation of the great stages of Chinese Business Club, how will an event you can join us, or even a remarkable encounter with Jean Dormeson. Thank you to Harold for his sympathies and for this discussion particularly interesting. Thank you also to our Fouquettes for this podcast.
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Hello Harold, how are you? Hello François, I'm very happy to welcome you. Super, I'm really happy to welcome you. Today we are at Fouquettes, who we welcome you in a very nice way.
This episode is produced and produced by Pete DeTigre, our agency of audio and video. We have three cames, one on Harold, one on global and one on moi. And so, it will allow us to film this exchange. Harold, you are the founder of Chinese Business Club, its first network of affairs in France.
So, we are joined by entrepreneurs, by entrepreneurs, by journalists, by journalists, by journalists, by journalists, by diplomats, by chefs, and by chefs of the business, and so on. With the names very, very impressive, and we will not know that we are going to put on this episode, but we have to see it very, very good names. My first question is to ask, on a few years before, to tell me in which environment you have grown? I have been a long time ago.
Well, I've got to do a class at CERGY. I've got to have a school at CERGY. And then I worked a little bit on the telecom. And then, in 2010, I asked myself to put on my own account.
I made a rupture conventionally with my own employee. And in 2010, I was put on my own account. I created an intermediary. And then I brought up a lot of foreign exchange.
And then I brought up a lot of foreign but also, And then at the end of the month, I realized that there was a thing to do, and so I had the idea of creating an affair club, a club of professional, franco-chinoids, and that's how it was born in 2012, the Chinese Business Club. So it started very slowly, but surely, when I was talking about my project, no one believed me, I was one of the rares to think about it. Why? Because each time I said, you're not chinois, you're not chinoid, you're not chinoid, you're not chinoid, you're not chinoid, you're not chinoid, you're not chinoid, but I was convinced that the idea was good, so I didn't leave this idea, so I didn't leave this idea, the three first years they had been transparent on the galère, until that Emmanuel Macron, then Minister of the Economy, came to the club on the 15th of 2015, and that was clearly an avant-après.
So we'll talk about the Chinese Business Club in a few minutes, but I'd like to come back on your own. What were your parents doing? Are you already in an ecosystem entrepreneurial or not at all? Listen, I'm a son of a puppy, to take an expression of Jacques Segalac that you've interviewed.
Jacques Segalac is a friend of the Chinese Business Club who comes to all the déjeuners of the club for 10 years. We've even celebrated his anniversary last year, 88, incredible, he's in an Olympic form. I dream of being like him at the same age. And so my father was a publicist and my mother worked in the hiver of the pub.
So very sincerely, I don't think we are an entrepreneur. Before I was a salary, I was very happy, and then one day I made a click. And it's true that today, I would be incapable of making a machine. When we go to the entrepreneur, it's such a freedom.
On more, on more, on more, on more. But it's a contractual, but we have more freedom. I often work in a bit in a bit. For example, I don't have to work the 20th of the week.
But I work every dimanche afternoon and every dimanche evening, while everyone is watching the TV. We're a bit in a bit in a bit, but... Yeah, we're a bit in a bit in a bit. But at the end, we work a lot more.
But I'm convinced that the more we work, we have a chance in our lives. There are people who say, you have a chance, you have a chance. I work a lot. Curieusement, the more we work, the more we have a chance.
The chance and the opportunities are generated with the work. With the meetings. And the chance doesn't work like that. No, I don't think so.
I don't think so. I'd like to go back to your studies. How did you have lived this period? Did you have been a good one?
I didn't have a good one. I didn't have a good one. I didn't have a good one. I didn't have a good one.
I didn't have a good one. But I worked quite hard. The advantage of the business is that we did a lot of work. It's hard to get into it in circle.
And it's helped us to the good ones. And then it gave me the best way to get into contact with the one. To get into contact with the other. To get into contact with the others.
To get into education, I started my passion my career. I had to meet people in my life. So, I went with those people's relationships. So, in physics, so as I was by email.
So, in next to my account. Yeah, I think it's really good. It's like that the best connection and relationships are? Yeah, and then when you put two people in relationship, then they're happy and then they're happy.
Well, after your studies, you become a salary. So you're not an entrepreneur. What do you do during these days? Well, I was in 8 years in business, 4 years at home, at home, at home, 8 years at home, 8 years at home, I was able to manage the portfolio of clients in large and medium companies.
And it was cool, I was an autonomous, I had an objective to attend, when you're commercial and you have an objective, every year you have an objective to attend. And at the end, you're saying, you're not an objective, but it's not a great deal. It's like that's how it's going to happen. 8 years at home, 8 years at home, it's hard to start alone.
I'm not an employee, not a salesman, not a salesman, not a salesman, but it's not a business all the time. What is the number of TV? How is the TV? How is the TV?
How is the TV? How is the TV? How is the TV? And what is the TV?
It's easy to do with all of a businesses, C'est quoi le chiffre d'affaires? C'est quoi le résultat? C'est quoi les bénéfices? Comment marcher les via?
Quand vous l'applêchez? Et elles sont toutes les choses qui ne doivent pas être obligatoirement sur une facture. Bon après je parle de ça. C'est bien č quand on démarre tout ca ca parce que c'est 때문 là que c'est connu et je trouve que c'est dommage qu'il n'y ait pas dans les facs ou les écoles de commerce ou autre des cours.
Je dis que ca existe en main mais des cours vraiment 100% dédié à l'entrepreneuriat et qui peut être sur la pratique. C'est 100% pratique, c'est-à-dire que c'est le meilleur moyen de apprendre dans le public, c'est pratique. Ah bah tu te dis en convaincant, je suis complètement d'accord. C'est clair.
Donc tu lances le Chinese Business Club en 2012, donc il y a 11 ans finalement. Comment est-ce que tu as eu l'idée justement de créer ce Chinese Business Club ? En fait l'idée, c'est vraiment les Chinois qui m'ont donné l'idée, c'est-à-dire que, comme je disais tout à l'heure, chaque fois que je rencontrais des Chinois, ils veulent toujours rencontrer des patrons français, des politiques français, des journées françaises, des marques françaises à vendre, et donc je me suis dit il y a vraiment un truc à faire, ça vaut le coup de créer un petit réseau de mise en relations français et chinois, to make business, they want to meet the chinoes, the chinoes, the chinoes, the chinoes, the chinoes, the chinoes, etc. And unfortunately, the chinoes who come in France, they want to meet the chinoes, so there is a real complémentarité between the two.
The beginning has been a bit long and complicated, it's not really 3 years to go, so I don't know if it's long, but it's really the chinoes who gave us this idea, and after, what you need to know is that the club was actually franco-chinoes until Covid, and unfortunately, with the actual sanitary, there are fewer or very few chinoes in Europe and France, and so I was a bit obliged to adapt to the actuality, and now my club is franco-francais at 90%, and then, beyond the fact that the chinoes don't want to come back, there are a lot of China-mashing in France, so I'm a bit obliged to adapt to this conjoncture, to this actuality, and in any way, an entrepreneur, we're always in the life, we're always in the life, we're always in the life, we're always in the life, so I'm obliged to adapt to this reality, so I'm not going to adapt to this reality, because I think that the chain of the Chinese club is a real material value, and then it begins to be known and revenue, it's a brand that I created in 10 years, so it would be really bad, 10-11 years after, to change the nom, it would be a real material value. So the idea, if you want, is to keep this non, it's a real material value, but then to do a little bit of the club, and to the internationalizes, I have more and more of the ambassadors of the Grands-Pays, of the West-Pays-Africans, who come to the club at Paris every month, in order to make the day-to-day life, and in parallel, I'm just giving up all the employees of TPH, PME, EP, et cetera, there are plenty of small boxes in France, there isn't no London in Paris at all , but they are not only the resell, so they eat their own, etc., they do not always the resell, etc. Or, the resell, the st-12 when you have to go back, it's a good time, it's phenomenal, and it's very good, and we tell me that the time's money, it's money. If at least when you go back, there are plenty of money in Paris, moins par exemple mais au moins et puis quand même chez les ans de business c'est pour les sénateurs des députés des ambassadeurs des politiques des journalistes des chefs entre entrepreneurs ou patron de propriétaires de leurs boîtes c'est toujours des contacts pertinents et puis globalement j'ai des gens croisent à tous les points de vue donc c'est un passage même si fait pas de vise à ce que dans les trois mois six mois peut-être que dans deux ans il y aura des opportunités des synergies possible il y a deux ans et donc ça me fait penser un mot the chance that you can see the chance that you can see the chance that you can see the great steps that you visualized on the Chinese Binascope?
The creation is really in the 0 in 2012, 0 euros, 0 contacts, I have no contact with the chinois, I have no contact with the chinois, I have no contact with the French, so it doesn't have to start with 0 euros. Three first years, it was a very good point of view, even financially. But in which time you have been on these three first years? Especially on the end of the three years?
Very sincerely, it was just a reason I didn't say that it was regular, that it was regular to go out for a moment to start financially. We are now on the Fuket, who we are today, who is in the Chinese Binascope for many years, since 2014, that's how to say that Fuket is a member of the club, like other parisians, but I was not happy, I was ultra motivated, I knew that this idea would work for a day, but I knew that it would work for a day, but I knew that it would work for a day. So I didn't leave the idea, I worked a lot, but it's true that I worked a lot, I didn't have time to start, I didn't have time to start, so I worked very often late the evening, and in the end, it ended up paying, because in 2015, I called the secretariat of Bercy in wanting to come back to Macron, who I didn't know absolutely not in my club, who was the minister of the economy, and then he was asked to contact his secretariat, and then at the end, Emmanuel Macron and the new club, the 15th of 2015, it was really an avant-après for the Chinese Binascope, because there was a lot of information about what this club, where the minister of the economy, Emmanuel Macron, came back to the power. So there, there was a TV, the TF1, the MC, the BFM, etc.
And so, since 2015, the club carton, it's cool, there are many companies, small and small companies, small and small companies, who pay a membership at Noël and who participate to more than a dozen of events at Paris, at every time with an invitation that's why there are many companies that are very big, either the patron of the C40 or the patron of the unicorns, like Blablacar, Conto, Ledger, Backmarket, etc. And the event is really the pretext for all the people, because there are plenty of good people, but there are many people who are still playing and so, and so, and the club has 90% of fidelity and of renouvellement of the membership, so that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why the energy and the opportunities among the members the club they are all business all. In fact, the three key are the international business and networking It's true for developing the network and the end of the club it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good. but it's not enough.
So if you have one, two, three, four, then you know what you do, you know what you do, you know what you do, you know what you do, you know what you do, you know what you do, you know what you do, you know what you do, etc. There's a prescription between them, so it's going to work. You talked about the switch in 2001 with the pandemic, because there we are clearly on the events that are physical, where the connection is happening in physical, how did you get the arrival of the pandemic and these pandemics that have obviously impacted your business club? Well, my club has been impacted by the way, I had zero aid from the government, why?
Because in fact, only the companies of the event and of the restoration have received an aid government. I, the code APE or the code NAF of my it's an entrepreneur, but in gros, I think it's 70-22, it's very rare, I'm considered as an enterprise of conseil, so I'm not a result, I'm a part of the Euro-Bénéficiaire of the government, so there's no aid in a minute, I'm not a result, like I said, the club works very well, since 2015, with enough of the treasury to be able to for 12-18 months, that's what I have done, I'm not a plus long, but yes, I confirm that the club has been in a minute, I've not been in a minute, and I haven't been in a minute, and I haven't been in a minute, because there's a webinar, I'm not even in a minute, I'm not even in a club, because there's a webinar, so in the case of the Chinese club, the webinars, it doesn't matter to anyone, at a time, we've talked about the idea of the subject that we have quickly left to go. Because the business model, it's an membership annual, and more also, potentially, the purchase of the diner. No, no, in fact, the adhesion of the Chinese club, it's a good thing, it's a good thing, there are many clubs in France, there are many, there are many, there are many, we're all very different, but I try with the Chinese club to have the most premium possible, because my point of view, it's that more it's a good thing, more it's visible, and more it's a good thing, and more it's a good thing.
And then, after, it's really an event that's very good thing, so with an adhesion, a little bit in consequence, the adhesion of the Chinese club, the most cher, they start at 9500 euros, so, by tax, by an and by society, it's 12 months to come to the reglement, and then, all the events are gratis for a year, the conférences, the cocktails, the déjeuner, everything is integrated, and it's for one person. After, the adhesion of corporate, it's not nominative, so if, for example, your company is member, if you're not dispo, you're not dispo, you're not dispo, you're not dispo, you're not dispo, or off-shop, it's not nominative. So, if you're dispo, you're not dispo, it's your associate, it's your director commercial, it's your associate, it's your corporate, it's corporate, it's only corporate. So, at a time, 9500 euros, it's a good thing, how do you think about it in Chinese business?
Well, it's a good question, it's a good question, it's a good question, it's a good question, it's a good question for you to come to the next day, when you arrive in the next day, the guests to come to the next day, with the non-prédoms of the social media of all the people who are present at the day, cocktail and networking debout during 1 hour and a half, from 11h30 to 13h, cocktail champagne or perrier, it's a good member of the club from 2012, and there, the people are extremely mobile, etc., they change the car of visit, but it's a good question, so in gros, in 1h30, you can meet a lot of people, it's always interesting, then at 13h, we pass the table, a place for everyone in the afternoon, between 13h to 14h, the guest of the day to the day, in the end of the day before 14h, a question-repunch with the guest of the day, a question-repunch with the guest of the guest, and at 14h, a cafe, a new time to come to the next day, for the participants of the guests continue to exchange during 1h30 to 15h30, there is 1h30 of cocktail networking debout before the day, 1h00 of de-day-sit with the guest of the day, so there is also an interest to be at the same table and then at 14h, a new time to come to the next day, a new time to come to the next day, Yes, that's the goal of the business. The club business is a very Anglo-Saxon culture, less French. How do you see this side of your business club? I'm completely agree with you.
The word business club, the word lobbying, all that are not always very well in France, because there is no taboo, no secret, but my club is completely official. All the journalists are present each day. They come to the BFM, the Challenge, the Ecos, the Figaro, so the Chinese Club is not a sect. Now with the Franco-Francais, it's 90% as I said.
Everything that happens is totally official, so it's interesting to meet each other, between entrepreneurs, etc. There's nothing wrong with the business. It's really business first, so that's why my club is a bit Anglo-Saxon, as you say, the people come to the Networking and business. It's exactly like that.
How many of the Chinese Business Club have been done in 2012? In 2012, I don't know how many of them have been done. It's been a dozen of events per year and more than a dozen of events per year and all of that, it's a better math. 150, I'm going to say.
There's a certain reason. And then there's more than a lot of societies as I said before, because there are 9 out of 10 that renewals every year and that's for me, the true value of what we're talking about, it's a bit of satisfaction. If we're doing all the time, they're content. And the term...
The term... We're on the same thing for 10,500 euros, in income, but for a small company, it's a good company, it's a good startup, a good company, I'm sure it's a good company and well, that's a good company, well, well, it's a great deal. The people are content of the and of the revenue. Yes, it's a great connection that's not possible in other environments.
And then it's good to meet people that you don't want to go to the street and then there are plenty of business and relationships with a lot of people who are in the place of the club. Yes, because when there is a climate of confidence that we feel confident, etc. They all do business club, but there is no doubt. You can talk about the clubs in France, Paris and province, there are a lot of millions, we have all the different positions, certainly at the end.
But there are many clubs at Paris where you store a course of visit, it's not very well, it's a little affair. But there it's not at all. The people are like, what do you do, what do you do, how do you do, how do you do work together, how do you do it, how do you do it, how do you do it, how do you do it, how do you do it, how do you do it, how do you do it. It's conflict.
Very clear. What is the future for the Chinese business club? Do you want to use it? Yes, of course, I would like to propose the club as well as an adresse to the young entrepreneurs, the startups, the TPE, the PME, as well as I said, there are plenty of people who are not always working there, so I think I have a great value in the club.
The next date, it will be the 7th March, as well as all the March, on the March, we will put the Femmes of the year, so this year it will be Virginie Doyen. The last year it was Alexander Lamy, the last year it was Monica Bellucci, the Foy of Avance, it was Carabody, so it was always a personnalist feminine, often involved in the causes and associations, etc. And so it's an edition, I think, pretty festive, super and which allows you to put in front all the women. Well, there are a lot of people.
Well, I often say, one of my parents is well, but yes, I agree. But anyway, the variety between women and women and women are objectively respected, because it's almost 50-50 between the number of women and the number of women. Yes, it's also an excellent question. Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, the 17th April, I'll tell you that we will receive Roxane Barzac, who is the directrice of Station F.
Station F, who has been created by Xeleniel, who is the most incubator of startups in the world. And so there will be a chance of this day of the 17th April, where you will be invited, of course, many startups, entrepreneurs, etc. And Roxane Barzac will be an invitation of the day of the 17th April. And so Roxane Barzac will be an invitation of the 17th April.
Well, I actually don't think for you. But you know, as I'll tell you, Doctor League for me, I think it's the best value of котор. And if not Doctor League, it will be an outfield, there will be around 28 years ago, I think. So there is a more choice.
How do you do it all over you? Well, you are all over what you mean? Because you have seen this, all over the years of Business Club. What do you think about a week in the world of China?
I'm just doing it today, of course, I have people who are working in freelance, of course, who are working in freelance, I'm not even in freelance, but I'm not in freelance, who are working in freelance, There are people who aren't working in freelance, but I'm in freelance on their own, and it helps a lot. But yes, I've been able to do it for 10 years. And the same type, it lasts 5 or 6 hours a week. And in the morning, I work on my computer from the home.
So in general, I have my computer and my phone. I start at 9 hours, because it's a lot of time. After, I have a day-to-day dinner. The afternoon, I get to work on my own ordi, so I have a rendezvous.
The evening, I get to work on my own ordi, so I get to work on my own ordi. And then, very often, when I go to the home, I get to work on my own ordi and I work on my own ordi, and I work on my own ordi, and I work on my own ordi. So it's been a long time, but I have the chance to do my own job. And then after that, it can surprise me, but I have not the impression of...
Well, I work a lot, but I have not the impression of working in the sense that I'm passionate about what I do, I believe, I like it. And as I said, I have my passion in my own job, so it's a dream. After, I say that it can surprise me, but I prefer to be on the morning or the morning or the morning. Yeah, it's fine.
Well, after, there are plenty of people who say, ah, well, he's a fool, but yeah, but when you do it, you get to work on your own. And it's true, because it's true that we work on our own 5 or 6 hours a week, at least when we love our own job, we don't think so much, so it's a good chance. We're going to start with two questions on this adventure. The first one is what was the most difficult for you in this adventure?
Is it actually the three first years, but is it a moment where you were at the top of the top? Well, I'm sure that the three first years have been the most difficult at all point of view. Period of doubt. Is it that I don't fall right into the wall?
Is it that I've been able to create all this all alone? Because it's true that at the beginning, you pass the entire day all alone and you're alone to be alone. But when we're two, maybe we can support it and be motivated. Period of doubt, because if it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
But we're not going to confront it or it doesn't matter, but it's not. But I don't know, it's a problem. It's complicated, but I was thinking, I was motivated, I was relâch. And it's a two-year-old.
It's a two-year-old, three-year-old. I think, yes. From the point of view, it's a very hard. But when you're at the top of the top, you're at the top of the top.
But when you're at the top, you're at the top, you're at the top. The question that's the most positive thing is, what are you doing today? I think that I'm going to create something that's always the jour I'm going to be here. The Chinese Club, this brand, the Chinese Club, this club, if one day I'm going to be at the top of the top, I think that will always exist, even when I'm going to be here.
And that's what I'm going to say. I'm not sure, I'm not sure. But really, I think that will continue to exist. Let's see a brand, let's see a trace.
I think that I've created a brand and a club who, a priori, will continue to exist. Well, I hope that I'll be there. Well, I'm not sure. A priori, I'll be there for the look.
On the part of the rencontre and the entrepreneuriat. The first question, I know that in your career and with the Chinese Club, are very many. But is it possible to have one in particular which has marked your adventure? Ah, yeah.
I've already had the opportunity to talk. But I've always wanted to receive Jean Dormeson in my club. And so I told my parents to go to the phone, because they asked me to ask who the personnalist, etc. So I asked myself, I've searched several times Nicolas Sarkozy, I've searched Albert de Monaco, etc.
So it's a great personnalist. Evidemment, it's an honor to receive. But once I went to the phone, I'd like to see Jean Dormeson in my club. Well, okay, super.
And then, on dimanche matin, I call Harold. My father calls me. I'm with his mother. I'm on the train to go to the garden of Bagatelle.
And there's Jean Dormeson, he's all alone. He's all alone. I went to the gym, jean, jean, jean, je monte dans la voiture, j'habite le Valois. Donc le Valois nuit, c'est assez rapide dans la voiture.
J'arrive et j'appelle mes parents et il dit « alors, vous êtes toujours en ligne de nir ? », et mon père me dit « il marche à 100 mètres devant nous, on marche derrière lui, discrètement ». Le jardin de Bagatelle forme une boucle, nous on a pris vers la gauche. Si toi tu prends vers la droite, tu vas te retrouver nez avec lui.
C'est ce qu'on a fait, donc je suis avec mon père en ligne, et tout. Et donc je me retrouvais avec Jean Dormeson et donc je le rencontre, vous le connaissez absolument pas. Et je lui dis « bonjour monsieur, je me présente, j'ai écrit ce club lin, I received Emanuel Macron, Nicolas Sarkozy, the Lord of Monaco, etc. And I would like to say that it would be an honor to have you in an invitation.
And then, Gros Blanc, Gros Blanc, he looked at me and said, I don't know but I accept your invitation with great pleasure. Well, I didn't say well, it's just to give me a little idea, but it's magic. And then after we discussed 2-3 minutes, etc. And so I said, I'm so happy.
How is it that tomorrow morning I send you a mail? He said, you know, I don't have a mail, etc. He said, he didn't have a mail. He said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, yes, Mr.
Dormeson, he said, he said, he said, I'm aware of you, etc. I'll write everything and he said, he said, I didn't say anything to anybody. I was gonna say to myself, he said, Mr. Parizeau, he told me that he was a little boy.
But he said that, he said, He said, I made a commitment to him. I'll see you, Mr. Thora, Mr. Parizeau was a gift for me.
He said that, he said, Mr. Parce you, Mr. Marlor, Mr. Donc, he said, Mr.
Parizeau named Christopher, Mr. Parizeau was a gift with my invitation. in the future the question is just evolving to the end of the game you ya frédéric mais est là que j'aime beaucoup je trouve ça aaa c'est pas le type of hyper discreet vers le profit franchement pour moi c'est une star j'ai rencontré et le caravac j'ai vraiment bluffant très content je sais que je suis un très grand et et donc on a chance de croiser une soirée ou lui et moi on connaissait absolument personne est soeur et alors la l'accrétation de braque dans ces trois mois qui également les membres du team guisme jean dans son groupe évoque ils ont le hotel braque le singer le there are several hotels in Paris, there are a lot of people in the club like Fouquet's, so Eric Larchevêque is a great guy, it's a great guy, it's a great guy, it's a great guy, and then there are a lot of people that I have received at the club, but there could be more than others. Nicolas Sarkozy, who has been in the club, so it's been a political club, it's been a club of affairs, a business, but it's true that every time that Nicolas Sarkozy comes in, I can tell you that there's a lot of people, I can tell you that there's a lot of people, I can tell you that there's a lot of people.
Do you have an anecdote a little croustillante to tell me about one of the last day of the Chinese? There are a lot of people, I can tell you a bullet, it's not very glorious for me, but there's a prescription now, because it's been a dozen years ago, but I received, I received several times, Jean Palagon, who is the president of the Royal, the PDG of the Royal, and the first time I received it in a dozen years ago, I had forgotten, it's a big mistake of my part, but I had forgotten his head on Google, and he arrived around 13h, and I said, I'm going to ask you, the invité d'honneur will soon arrive! Well, it's true that the invité d'honneur, it's been him, and it's very good news that I haven't met him, and I'm sorry. Well, it was a long time, there was a prescription.
Well, it was a hard time, but I would say I had a good time, and then I didn't get to it. That's the last time we made it on our exchange, there are some questions, and the first one is what you do to do for the best. I have a question, when I say I have a question, I have a phrase, I don't know if I say, I say, what I arrive in the life, an hour or an hour, it's time to be in the past. It's a little bit, very, very, very, very, very, very, very late.
but I think that we all know more about it in life, whether it's personal or pro, and I think that this phrase is very true, because with the time, things are stomp, we learn to digest things and we learn to live with it, with the time. And I like this phrase. What happens, one day or the other, it's the past. It's beautiful.
I don't know who it is. I don't know who it is, but there's no one. If you could buy any of that, without limit financiers, it would be which? Question difficult.
Yeah, it's a question difficult. What do you want to buy? Group, enterprise, even if it's American, I don't know. In this case, if it was no limit, I would buy the LVMH group.
That would allow me to make a pleasure to all my friends. The first group of luxury world. And by the way, I think it's a sign that we have received, alexander Arnaud, when he was a patron of Rimowa, and we also received his brother Freddekarno, patron of Taggart. So, perhaps Bernard?
I would like to have a chance to have a great partner, like Bernard Arnaud, in France, who has worked with thousands and thousands of families and salariés, which allows us to make a difference in France internationally. The luxury of France, frankly, thank you. We talked about the podcast with Dominique Forbes, who made his number two with Bernard Arnaud, who had the chance to... Well, he did.
He tried, so he had the chance. Is there a question that I asked you, but I didn't ask you? Well, we've done the tour, right? If there's no one, I don't know.
Well, there's no one. Well, there's no one. I don't want to say that. I don't want to say that.
How do you do it? How do you do it? That's a good question. Well, you can ask me, I'm not sure you've asked me.
I don't want to say it. Well, by the time, we're on the website. There's a link in the description of the episode. Do you have any entrepreneurs to advise me for future episodes?
Yes. A girl. She's called Anna Chivu. They are two associates, Anna Chivu and Adina.
They are both two. They are built a small startup, which in my opinion, will be a future licorne. In general, it's a geolocalization of objects. They are in general, it's a location in particular.
And so they cartonnent. And so I think it's very interesting. And the start is pretty promising. They have received a HEC Entrepreneur, the Green of the Commission European.
They have been, for a few months, incubated at Station F. And the adventure has started in a year. So, frankly, bravo, bravo Toboro. So, Toboro, B-O-B-O-R-O.
So, they are adhérentes to Janice Béneslav. And they are, between other members of Janice Béneslav. And my last question that I ask for each episode, what is for you an entrepreneur? For me, an entrepreneur, it's a company who is ambitie, who is motivated, who has a feeling, who has a feeling, who has a feeling.
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