#106: Mosaic Marriage with Pastors Troy and Jana Jones

On this week’s episode of Pastors Unfiltered, Pastor Tony and Pastor Brandon welcome longtime friends Pastors Troy and Jana Jones from New Life Church in Renton, WA. Together, they dive into everything from viral moments in the Seattle church scene, to the incredible unity and growth happening across the region, to what it really looks like to build a strong, lasting marriage in ministry. Troy and Jana unpack the heart behind their new book, The Mosaic Marriage: How Two Imperfect People Become One Masterpiece, sharing stories from their 36 years of marriage—including hard conversations, personality differences, raising kids, and leading side-by-side in church.00:00 – Intro: PB’s fresh Lecrae obsession02:30 – Lecrae’s backstory & recent influence05:15 – Why Lecrae’s words hit different now07:40 – The spiritual deconstruction conversation10:10 – Lecrae’s evolution: from rapper to prophet13:00 – When churches become culture clubs15:30 – Lecrae’s journey through criticism & canceling18:15 – How to tell when you're idolizing a system, not Jesus21:00 – Cultural Christianity vs. gospel-centered faith23:30 – PB shares the “nothing changes if nothing changes” sermon moment26:20 – The risk of making church comfortable instead of compelling29:00 – Jesus didn’t come to entertain – He came to transform31:15 – Tensions: love for the Church vs. critique of its culture33:30 – Tony’s thoughts on Lecrae as a theologian36:10 – Why Gen Z and Millennials are walking away38:40 – Christian celebrity vs. authentic witness42:00 – Discipleship: shaping hearts, not managing behavior44:30 – The Lecrae interview that sparked this episode47:00 – Tony’s closing: When the gospel feels more like a mirror than a badge49:00 – Outro: shoutout to Lecrae & future guestsThe Mosaic Marriage Book Here:https://www.amazon.com/Mosaic-Marriage-Imperfect-People-Masterpiece/dp/1964508320/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2KVS5ON3K1VI9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5r1GcUem-obV-MvHOjpjYmZCymC7BVYVt4_LhmrC8QTGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.HnL7Cjs69dcij22wOdPV5A5SqlvKcfDkk-Gf3-91hSM&dib_tag=se&keywords=mosaic+marriage+troy+jones&qid=1749165534&sprefix=Mosaic+mar%2Caps%2C238&sr=8-1