Look at all this concentration going on. Look at Cathy and I actually like reading notes and shit like sitting here looking like we're getting prepared You realize we're both doing that the same time Kathy? What we did? I wasn't listening.
I'm sorry I literally was not listening to you. I was looking at my notes And then I like how for the last like five seconds you actually were making direct eye contact with me I was not here not listening to me at all. This is how we have been able to do 106 episodes together I'll tune you out regularly. That is wonderful.
Well, Cathy now that you are sort of quasi paying attention, okay? Yes, Kathy won't listen to me. Can you please ask her if she's ready to start the show? Kathy Boogie wants to know if you're ready to start the show.
Why yes, I'm gonna Please tell Boogie that I am boogie Kathy said that she is ready to start the show. Thank you, Unger Let us start the show then the show is for mature audiences only listen or discretion is advised and if you don't like it Please go fuck yourself. Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? Scared that your desires might be strange Come and join the kicky world of play Hello and welcome to the murder podcast the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and perversion Recording live from the threshold level in North Hollywood, California in front of our in front of creepy in front of creep creep How you doing?
Oh, oh, and I was just about to like be like creepy. Can you please get up and take your guest hosting? You're the only one here getting a fucking chair put on the headphones In prompt you guess he just showed up creepy. We haven't seen him.
He's been busy, you know making billions or something I don't know or at least pennies more than us. He's a model now. He's a sex model. I don't know I can you talk about that or no?
No, okay, yeah, yeah, just but just you're just your cock, right? Yes, my cock will be featured just featured in cosmopolitan on the cover. Yeah cuz bro 106 we're here. Yeah, I'm still people are still talking about you know the nerfed art that we shot and marks butthole That was still amazing and there's like she's just smiling.
She's a finger finger So proud totally flaming hot cheetah fucking fingers. I'm just an anatom. Yeah, there's a video apparently it was pretty amazing Get the mic in your face there buddy. Have you not just hosted before?
No not like this. Well, you're in the door I was like abyss. Oh I'm sort of regretting my decision. My dad's in the chatroom Okay, what do you tell him that creepy sniffed him that is that is awesome so uh so we got we got some things to talk about for potato mayhem and Just fuck it Just bad and ugly what I was amazed that we had a super fan was and now I'm amazed that we have fucking groupies We kind of do and but not just groupie like people that are dedicated to perverted podcast dedicated in a way wait Do you have their names?
Yes? I'm prepared. Okay, I asked permission to get the news. I forgot we were so blown away So so some of our listeners, you know, we say plant the peepee flag and hold it You know go somewhere and then hold up a picture perverted podcast or even anything that says peepee on your Something like that.
So who are two listeners naked 1d and fun fox fun fox is the one with a nice butt cheek That is correct then naked 1d Done gone crazy on and took a knife or a scalpel and carved Pee pee on each butt cheek and not little ones either took up the whole fucking butchy and it looks like he went over it And over to make sure you got it in there nice and deep and then took a picture and sent it to us And that is that is a man that's not a fan that's a groupie. That is a fan That is unreal that is unreal that's commitment, but then I thought about and I'm like, oh my god now in the in the non-king world You know that would be like, oh my god, you know someone carved their name and you know themselves in my name But in the kid world I gotta say my amazement and how awesome we are was short-lived because she also added in Oh, you know my dumb loves knife play and I'm all god damn it We were just used as an excuse to do some knife play So it knocked it down just enough Hey, let me you're right. You know, I never thought of that because if in the vanilla world somebody like sent you their ear or Carve yeah, they're fleshed. It would be like a video world.
Oh, I'm so sweet Thank you. Thank you. That's good marketing. Thank you.
Really. I'm just like a man Can you watch around walk around that the pictures great it's on our foot like for them? I guess yeah, that's so much you guys that was amazing. That was that was a that was pretty cool I really did not believe I thought it was photoshopped or something that you really look at it You see he carved the PP in there it's plant again unreal, but then did he plant the pole Done run I was thinking the bad, but thanks for up in the game there a little bit.
Okay. That's the next photo you guys have to send So Kathy in the line of disaster is a disastrous when he slips sideways. It's not a disaster. It's just Slips sideways me sobbing on my knees get the fuck away from me.
I know Well, that's more than a slip pumpkin That's definitely sideways, but that's a slide that's slide ways. That's you are wow. What's up, I'm good Kathy was just he's just testing his little light. No, no, no, no, no.
We're getting back on Okay, so for various reasons I've had just an absolutely crazy three four weeks, right? Very getting to the weekend and I'm being able to relax for one reason or another usually because I'm having a good time I'm not saying that I had a bad month or but I got to this weekend and I was really torn because I had a couple of friends who were saying Hey, we really want to see you and it is so my Way of doing things to absolutely not turn them down and find a way to meet with them or do what they want to do Because I don't want to turn them down and as hard as it was for me I said I just creative explore by me over his place and to spend a quiet relaxed weekend And I needed it so badly that I just turned my friends down the other people say yes And they totally understood and it would carry was one of them She even said, you know self care is really important good for you And so we had a very relaxing time, but I kind of don't even know how it slips sideways we were Just messing around playing I think was after seeing her before scene And he started I don't know grabbing to me I was starting to say something and I said I'm not gonna say it and he was spanking me really hard And I just kind of shut down because I refused to say it and it hurt so fucking much that I just froze and he could tell that he kept spanking me and I was not even moving and so he knew something had gone wrong and He describes it very well as we got into a negative feedback loop Right because I was furious at the situation I was I didn't even know what I was thinking I just knew that I had frozen and I had shut down and he was trying to hold me to comfort me And I was like get the fuck away from me, but it was all non-verbal that was all going on in my head and so It actually took a whole five minutes of me just find him and pushing him away until he finally let me go and Then we calmed down and realized that something is something went wrong and then you know We talked about a little bit we we cuddled and I cried my fucking eyes out because I just felt so bad in the middle of it You have no no reference You have you can't back up and take a look at what happened So all you can hope is that you and the person that you're with at least have enough awareness to just leave each other alone Or let let what's gonna happen come out the other end and then discuss it And I'm just always so grateful that whenever a scene slips sideways with us That's what you're able to do that So what you're saying here for the I get a paraphrase my pain no for the kinksters at home or the new kinksters or the pick-up play kinksters That this is an added level of risk So you're saying that you froze in a point to where calling a safe word or calling something like that wasn't even really in your thought process Absolutely, I couldn't froze there's no better word for it That's how I felt like I just completely shut down and just gritted my teeth and closed my eyes and just Decided I'm gonna deal with the pain and not think about anything else So in this when I should have told when I should have said red when I should have stopped him I have a safe word you do have a safe word. Um, yeah, I could use red and he would absolutely start a stop But I've never really used it. I've just said stop stop we need to stop and that's enough.
Yeah, so there are unforeseen And this comes down to when we've talked and we're gonna always talk about the fact that as a top your Responsibility goes much farther than just listening for a safe word because there are times where the bottom will get into a space where it is an unexplained inability to Articulate a thought or to self-abricate or whatever so your job is to look for body language When is something look wrong and that's when you can check in and it's not just about use your safe word because there are moments It's rare. I mean this doesn't happen a lot for you I've heard about it. I've heard other submissives or bottoms say how you get to a place where you can't verbalize I've never had it happen to me and so that was a first and it I just felt guilty afterwards because what the hell is wrong with me and It's hard to come out. It's hard to come out the other end But we did in a surprisingly short amount of time because we've been seeing for three years and you just have that community So you know once you came out of it you had a safe environment to So I said, please let me just go wipe my snotty nose in the kitchen bathroom and I'll be back and let's please just talk about it And yeah, so we just he said it sounds to me like we got into negative feedback look at look and I said that's not exactly that's exactly what happened I was just negative upon negative and I couldn't find my way out of it.
So I just fucking froze That's really interesting. I had a similar experience from a tops point of view with my girl. Oh my god We were play wrestling full and around I she got a lot I guess you know because she doesn't like being tickled in certain spots, which is exactly where I go At one point I turned off the light in our room and that you know cuz I know how light adjusts You know and I scared the shit out of her and she just starts sobbing but not like her normal cry This was a very different and scary to me crying I didn't know what was going on So I turned the light on and from past experiences I know just to sit at the edge of the bed let her calm down and then bring her back And I was like this is this was very scary for me What happened and she said I just got overwhelmed and I couldn't explain it so I just started crying she couldn't say any safe words Nothing nothing new happened between us. We've always playfited, but this was new and this was different and scary for me So it was kind of an interesting and similar situation Yeah, so now these are some situations where we now have two situations and I've had similar things go wrong in scenes too Where it's an example of even when you are with somebody That you've been with for a while and you understand each other things can go to that place So if you are playing with somebody who is new that means you have an extra emphasis that you need to put on watching that body language And to see unless you're trying to break someone and you guys are negotiated I'm gonna destroy you and you're gonna need therapy for 100 years risk aware consensual trick again But if you're somebody that wants to keep around and keep playing with people and to build something with people Then you're gonna have to listen for more than just say for it's you're gonna have to you're gonna have to watch What's going on and you can still not kill the scene by checking in you don't I mean you don't know you okay?
You can still just like creepy did sat at the edge of the bed let the person have some time and then you can ask very calmly and very Sternly do we need to talk about something? All right, do you want to continue? I thought I'd literally have thought I'd gone too far like I thought I had triggered something or something happen that has never happened before and It was that genuine fear of I fucked up. Yeah, and you can do everything right You can do everything the way you've done it a hundred times before and just and this is exactly what happened This is the kind of goofy fun play that we do where it's the only I'm like, no I'm gonna say it yes, you're gonna say it wack wack wack and for some reason this one time you were charged Yeah, it just was crazy So we were charged other than that it was a great weekend and he it was very relaxing And I just got totally replenished and took me out to really nice restaurant We went to the movies did you get the D?
Did you get some good D to us twice the D? That's the D double D. Oh, and I found out something I hate to prolong this but you're gonna like this Okay, so he's fucking me right and what he calls the end exactly the entry protocol position because apparently that's what we used to do So I come in entry protocol, but he pisses me off because he uses a phrase wrong He turns it into a verb and says we have to entry protocol you which is very easy I think he's smart enough to know that that fucking pisses you off. Of course, you know creative explorers So it's creative.
Where's I going with this so you know I totally forgot talk more about your fucking oh, yes We're fucking thank you creepy I guess those my good guess so so we're fucking and he he starts doing the dirty talk And starts doing the nasty talk and you're just a hole for me to fucking and spread your legs wider And I'm like, huh, and then he says you know that you're my good girl I'm like, I took him out of that no one it's just that for some reason right in that moment I realized the contrast between the two even while I'm being fucked There's a third part of me in my head that's like huh. What interesting concept Yes, and later we talked to you know I know that we've actually in the three years We've been seen talk about the fact that yeah, I love being called a good girl But I love being called a bad girl too. I love being chastised. I love being punished I love being a told that I'm just there for your sexual service and that's all I am and he's all really Really?
Did you learn something this was a weekend of you know So anyway, what that was it I think And that is our show thank you very much for I feel good 16 minutes in you know I think we uh, we might have to that was great. Thank you very much for sharing that that is great because it really opened up You know something that is is you got to watch that body language. Yeah, absolutely. That's great I mean I almost don't want to you have to not even body language, but verbal cues as well.
Yeah verbal cues That is that is good stuff. So okay crazy groupies Kathy's weekend. All right. I gotta share a story I want you guys just sit in get some popcorn because this is this is a account boogie special here Where those cookies you had creepy?
I guess it's in Martin. Yeah, okay, so you know You know sometimes creepy Kathy mark hunger, um, you know, we're perverts You know which I found out that I had no idea that hand tie is pervert in Japanese. I didn't know I knew it was One sleeping in your bed. You know we're watching we're watching a you know an anime is it an anime or hand ties an anime But so but it's whatever but anyway They it's the Japanese with the subtitles and they keep calling each other pervert and I'm trying to listen for what's the word for pervert?
And then finally I go what is the word for perfect? I can't pick out which one it is because they say a lot of me fun of each other and she's all hand tie and I'm like, oh That makes sense, you know because You know a thing there, you know, I fifth grade education. What are you doing? So please so anyway, it's true by the way So now we're moving on to some things that work and things that maybe worked better in fantasy So I'm not gonna say I have a foot fetish because I don't I love all the parts I mean there's different things But obviously sometimes feet are cute And I'm not into the like the odor of the smell foot fetish guy stomping on my face walking a dirt sucking toes That kind I mean I like sucking toes if it's like they're in a bathtub or something like that And then I'm into it and sometimes when they you know put their feet on me That's kind of sexy as long as it's other stuff So I wouldn't say that I'm a foot fetishist where I fetishize just a foot But I definitely feed or apart, you know feet butts elbows, you know, whatever mouths tits all that stuff So you know so so mark after you know we kind of do a little bit of this stuff is like, you know I just want you to like jack off on my feet while I'm sleeping You know and so I'm like yeah, I'm like, hey, you know Maybe I'll keep that and this has been a conversation that has gone on literally for two years You know maybe more maybe even since day one, you know this kind of conversation, you know, you know, okay, you know Oh, yeah, maybe you'll just jack off on my feet while I'm sleeping so last week Oh, yeah, I was going after the girls, right?
So it's just mark and So I'm watching some pornographic I materialized some anti which by the way is perfect in the Japanese word for perfect in the continent of China and Thank you very much. So it's late two three in the morning, you know Been playing some leopard dead some games, you know getting online started watching some porn and I look back and her foot Hit kind of poked out and I was like, huh? Maybe this is the time. This is it.
It's the time I didn't exactly know how I was gonna work out But I just knew because usually I like to make someone come, you know I don't like to just use someone that I just that's my thing my thing is they come and that's what I get off on So it's very weird for me I mean I tell them they're just a fucking piece of meat all the time But I really feel kind of awkward sometimes just taking you know for and jerking off because I don't really like to come so So I'm like all right. I'm just gonna go ahead and fucking bust me a nut on them footies. I'm gonna do it So I fucking pull down my pants I'm not fucking will snap over the bed the lights there, you know, we have a little light You know just one little light so I can see a little glow metal pants So say good clunk, you know belt buckle dick sure sure so um so uh There this is the feet there's me. I'm feeling a little you know first a little first a little bonerific there and uh so I start And then once again, I told you it's very awkward to me to be like I'm just gonna use this very rare that I'm like suck me off To finish or whatever so but I'm like I'm gonna fucking squirt on these feet So I start buckling down now And you ever get to that point where you feel like you're going to have a heart attack from jerking off Yeah, anyone know anyone here?
No just me. Yes. So like of course I'm determined so I'm like I'm gonna fucking nut your fucking Jesus Christ and she is out just just she doesn't know but she was just like happy looking I'm gonna fucking jerk on these feet. So I'm like having a heart attack.
I literally I'm doing the old man thing like with one hand on the shelf going As fast as possible smokes coming off my dick. I have to stop three times. I had to just stop and go Okay, I'll get like literally I was there for like 15 minutes got to get it hard again. Okay, so finally I get the moment there Here it comes.
Of course. Yeah, I guess right? Yeah dirty bitch dies about two years So I fucking nut it feels like nothing because I'm so stressed out trying to come it just you know Whatever so if I can some fucking shoots out under you know the pads of her feet because you know her feet were you know The top of the foot was down she was on her tummy and so there You did it. Ah I did it.
So now of course I'm there and I'm part speeding in my chest. I'm like oh my god. This would be just the greatest way to die How did I jerk enough on some fucking chicks foot? That's great.
That's a great story But I wanted to live a little longer so I got myself together and then all of a sudden I'm like I can't just you know leave that there, you know, I'm gonna wipe it off dirty bitch. Yeah, so yeah, so so I'm like well because she didn't wake up. There was nothing just same look same face just just completely like him just out And I'm like wow, so this is okay. Well, you know, I figured for sure she would've been like what's on my feet, you know and woke up But that's not what happened at all so I said okay.
Well, I'm gonna just she's asleep So I'm just gonna go ahead and just you know wipe the wipe it off so I got a baby wipe We're taking a picture I was still Cornering pulmonary issues so I like get her and so I just you know, I reach under just a gently kind of grab her ankle Just so I can kind of hold it and give a little wipe And so I get under the ankle very quietly. She's still dead asleep and I I go to you know Just gently wipe up and mark has these things. They're called night terrors. Oh, yes Yep, I know it's so I lift the foot and that cold wipe hits her foot and at the speed of light She jumps up screaming Fucking spooch flying everywhere Just like it's me.
It's me. It's boogie. It's me. It's me.
You're okay. She's like Okay, kick It's me. I just I just I just jerked up on your feet. That's all right.
You said you wanted this. That's hot And she's like oh She's like why did you wake me up? Talk about these little bit sideways Now it's like she's calmed down and we kind of try to get under the covers and the entire bottom of my legs Just spooch everywhere under the covers and she's like it's wet Yeah, you kicked it all over the place So the cleanup didn't go that well And then she wakes up enough and we just start laughing about it because she had no idea Boogie that just puts my sideways scene to shame. That's pretty fucked up.
That is very fucking good in your mouth. Yeah Literally just like the world's fastest bicycle kick like she was just on her back doing ninja skills So Blacklight would have been on it would have just been strands of cum scared wipe it off. Yeah. It's so next time Jesus Christ talking more about jes let's say I told you this is gonna be yeah.
Yeah, so uh, okay Last two I'll just go. I'll just get younger in with his number I'm good. Yes, Boogie. Yeah, we're jerk off on a woman's foot and then give her a night tear and have her kick your cum all over the fucking bed.
No, I have not, Boogie. Let me tell you something, I'm not. I wasn't what I was hoping for. I wasn't the end.
What do you got going on the chat room? Lots of things. We're currently talking about branding and tattoos, but that's your feat. Not related to anything else.
That's good. So you got a question for them? You guys have an other question of the day? The ask a chat question this week is, have you ever had a scene go bad?
And would you care to explain? Because I first started with just, have you had a scene go bad and everyone just said yes, because there are lovely chat folks and they're going to answer directly. Yeah, yeah. And do it with that.
We've had quite a few interesting answers. Okay. So give me a couple. Well, it's here.
We had a couple of different anonymous people. Well, they are people. First people. First people.
We're old. So one made one of their play partners wear his enjoy to work and he slipped and fell and hit straight on his ass and that ended up being a trip to the hospital. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I mean something here. Oh man.
Where's what? Yeah, basically it is bum trip to work fell on his ass. Oh, so we had a bug plug in? Yes.
Yeah. And yeah, end of one hospital with a bug plug in. Yeah. And then you got fired.
Another one sticking with anal and a different anonymous didn't adequately stretch the first time she did anal and it wasn't very pleasant. Apparently a little bit kind of stopped. Mr. Fishers.
Give me a dream. Yeah. Give her an asshole and now make it bleed. I'm writing this on the cover.
I don't even remember copying this one down, but it's in my notes. Actually, I got whacked in the face of the flogger when they turned around and wasn't supposed to. And then you got to say, did you learn your lesson? They all to negotiate and a playful, light bondage and flogging scene ended up very stingy and bloody.
That's some serious slip inside with that to happen. Accidentally choked with a rope tied around the neck that got tighter when it wasn't supposed to. Ah, that one's for the books. And actually I had like three people pass out on me for various reasons.
What about what's even playing with you? Standing there. It's just your presence. Your presence.
You just have that fear presence. And blood. Yeah, that's true. He's a leader.
Well, that is good. We'll tell them thank you very much for that. And also now I guess we'll just segue into the new segment that's going to be coming up either weekly or biweekly. And that is a kind of bastardized version of our word of the day because we couldn't really find, couldn't really incorporate it like into our kind of own thing.
But we still like vocabulary words because you know, Mark and I do vocabulary now every day. We like to vocabulary. We like to vocabulary. And so we decided we were going to come up with perverted vocabulary.
And here's how I don't have the jingle. So I'll fucking jingle next week. So perverted vocabulary. So the idea is we pick a vocabulary word, we give it to the chat room.
Unger is giving it right now to the chat room. We put it on our FETLIVE profile. He looks surprised. So go ahead and give them the word.
Okay. I'm not going to tell you the word. And the reason I'm not going to say it on the show is because the show lives on in perpetuity. So a year from now I don't want people sending us, you know, their sentences.
But if you're special in the chat room. Or you go to our FETLIVE page on FETLIVE.com perverted podcast. Or yeah, we'll figure out a way to put it. Maybe put it on the website too pervertedpodcast.com.
We'll figure out a way. We'll make a page for it. So then wait, everyone knows. So here's the deal.
So you get the word, you go look it up on what its definition is. And then you get to write the most fucked up sentence correctly using that word. So you have to correctly use it. But the sentence has to be fucked up.
Yes. It has to be fucked up. Can you get an example or am I putting it on the file? You kind of, yeah, I had a bunch written down.
But anyway, I don't want to give away this week's word. So because I remember that one. But it's basically just fine. I mean, the only things we're not going to really read is we really don't want to get into child molester, politics, or race.
But anything. You can't sex the baby, but you can eat it. So that's child molestation eating. No, eating a baby is not child molestation.
Eating, that's just cannibalism. Cannibalism is funny, damn it. Just baby, that's just baby, baby. That's right.
Eating babies with a spoon because of the spork. Just great. So yeah, so that's where we're going to do that segment. And that's going to be a lot of fun starting next week.
And then Kathy and I are actually going to sit down and do a video for perverted vocabulary. And then we'll do it on the show. Are you okay with the posting? Yeah, they can post it in the show.
Yeah, the group and stuff like this, I just later. Yeah, so we'll just give the word and then everyone will write it. And then the best. Also, don't jump on this if you're not willing to have your name said or put to be anonymous because this is going outside of the community and YouTube and stuff like that.
All right, god damn it. We can finally just, I feel like we've had a whole show. We're going to be cutting some stuff. Just another day on bed.
Live with one which can't get freaky sex. And it's freaked in. The type of things you see on bed. Might believe you.
Happy, happy, enlightened. Or possibly, or, blacks. I'm looking forward to this one. It seems like a simple one and a funny one.
But yeah, it actually is a cool shit. This is by sweet and nerdy. She wrote that time and ass hats fell asleep in my bed. Fucker.
Fucker. Ever from bed. It's hard. She says a selfish prick indeed is a man who falls asleep right after fucking.
That was the moment. He had no concern that I was comfortable before he stretched out. No regard to it being my space and maybe I didn't want him sleeping in it. I felt small and discarded like the condom he unceremoniously tossed in the trash.
I pulled out my sleeper bed because I was trying to let my patients take a front seat and I reached for my blanket. He even took my favorite furry blanket and that made me that fucker. Now it's on. Yeah, sorry.
I decided to pretend to accidentally wake him up and suggest some coffee. He ended up leaving when he realized he was not wanted. But I would not forget it. I remade my bed and I showered.
I just wanted to be by myself and entertain the idea that maybe there was something more out there for me. This was a great post. Yeah. And the story is funny.
And it's a pretty common complaint about greedy guys that they just fuck you. They don't care if you, you know, whatever. And then they fall asleep. So it's a long running joke.
It's a shitty experience when you have that where you can see people that just use you or don't want you. Without consent. Without consent. But what is amazing about the story is the discovery that she had the opportunity to make.
And I think a lot of people in the Caine Can Be DSM lifestyle have very similar stories, maybe not the exact story. But we have those moments where we discover we're going to raise our bar now. I am not going to tolerate this anymore. I can masturbate.
I am not that desperate for sex or the attention of another person that I'm willing to have another person that I'm not going to connect with. And it's not even, I mean, even a one night stand, you know, there needs to be something you get out of it, you know. And so that time when you just realize that I am not going to keep people in my life that are not going to join me on my sexual exploration. So I think it's like a great, it's like a kinky coming of age because she said later on, I went and dusted off my fat life profile and I got in and here I am.
I'm going to look for people that, that, that, you know, understand that there's more to sex than just shooting a nut and going to sleep. But if that's your thing, if that's your thing, because I don't want to get all judgy about people who don't have high sex drives or don't have a high passion for their sexual exploration. But what's amazing about this lifestyle is every lover that I have and the people I'm in relationships with also have a passion for their sexual exploration. And I found that I need that.
I need people to be into their eroticism and their passion and their sexuality. And when I stopped, I set my, because I used to have a lot of unfilting sexual experiences where you're like, oh, you got laid, you know, that's what is that? You know, I'm going to go put a fucking sticker on my car. You know, no, I mean creepy, my put a sticker on his car.
And what's, it's just to say, I'm not going to do that anymore. This didn't fulfill me. This didn't get me that place. So to come to that point is, I think, really exciting.
Yeah. Grog, have you ever fallen asleep on anybody? Not without prior, you know, talk about that. I've said, I'm going to wake up and fuck you and then go back to sleep.
Oh, that's awesome. I mean, I've talked about a whole different story. But yeah, but like when I stand, I kind of, you know, once we get to that, like, oh, we're about to have sex, you know, what do you want to do after? Do you want to, what do you like to do after?
Do you want to cuddle? Do you want me to get the fuck out? Yeah. So again, if it's a hit and run and everyone's decided that this is a hit and run.
I give a fuck about you. I've had women say that to me. Hey, you're not really marriage material, but you know, I need it's. Yeah.
Yeah. That's, yeah. I think if as long as you talk about it beforehand, I don't think anything like this is inappropriate besides touching the fuzzy blanket. I mean, that, yeah, that's when I saw that.
Sorry. I fuckers got to go. I like my wife's fucking, she's got a green blanket and I don't touch that. When she's got it on.
That's it. You put your dick on it when she's not there. Oh my God. Oh, I lay on it and I rub around like a fucking like put my balls on somebody's drum set.
You put your balls on my drum set. They're like trying to drums creepy. Don't don't molest my drum set. Too late.
Because he sits there. He sits there. Sometimes. And all of a sudden he's like, put my nuts on your drum set.
What kind of fucking random flex up, come in his hat unless you've actually done it. And you sit by my drum set creepy. What do you have to say for yourself? My pants are still on.
It's something I do to every drum set. It's from step brothers. I just don't. I didn't expose my genitals.
I didn't see that movie, but I don't support random not dragging on a fucking man's drum set. I don't want your clothes not so much. It was cold, not sack. Okay.
I elated my drum and I beat that drum. Yeah, I beat this. That drum is my drum. You never should have played with my submissive.
It's the only thing I get to poorly beat. Okay. Sorry, but it's a point taken. It's fucking funny though.
While we're sitting here doing a show, he's going to put my nuts on the drums. Jesus Christ. He's got to watch this guy every second of the day. You invited him to be a hit post.
Just to get the chair. Instantly regret my decision. Damn it. Drum dragger time.
Let's move on. Are we wrapped up in that? Yeah, you didn't have much to say. I've had it done to me once a long time ago when I was like, I'll give it one.
I would try and I would try and I got together with this guy. He was just got himself off and that was it. I was young but I was still had enough for myself to be pissed off but not enough to actually say something. But then the next time he called, it was a few days later, he said you want to get together again.
I just got out my courage and I sit in the nicest way I could. If I wanted to just get myself off, I could do that at home. I don't need you. Oh yeah.
Oh, you know what? I'm sorry. You're right. You're right.
Okay. You're right. Okay. It wasn't a hey, I'm apologize for being greedy.
Let me work it out. Okay. You're not going to be my choice. It was one I stand experiment.
Do you have a time where you remember when you said enough is enough? Was that the moment or was it? I don't remember the exact time but I remember that everything changed once I got started coming to Threshold and got involved in the community because then this was about my exploration. It wasn't about anybody else and I was finally trying something other than Vanilla Sex which had never worked for me.
Vanilla Sex simply does not work for me. I'm an envious of people who can go back and just have a lovely love making experience. I can't. I get nothing out of it.
I just lie there and I'd rather be just jacking off at home. You don't like love making? No. You don't like creating a square?
It looks in your eye and puts your hair and goes, good girl. I love you. He doesn't do this. And if he did, you would see a Cathy shaped hole in the door.
I love her connection. I can't get great with me. I love your breath. Yeah, stop it.
I feel like we're one with God. We are one together. You guys both need to stop. Your shoes fit you're perfect.
Or you're going to see a Cathy shaped hole in the back door right there. I have a Cathy shaped hole in my heart. I don't like Cathy. I'm going to have nightmares.
I'm going to have night tears like March again. Don't splish on my feet. I think I'm not going to be doing that again. I'm here.
I'm here. Pretty sure. Let's just jump to fetish roulette. Damn it.
There's always a cane. I don't know about it yet. So let's learn one now on fetish roulette. Yes, boogie.
Finish your typing, young man. I think it's got really weird and it's funny because it's related. What happened to this and then I'll go over the chat. Okay.
Yeah, let's do it. So here we're going to do something slightly new because, you know, Unger has a lot of experience and you've been hearing him talk more and more and I just want to thank you for being a... I'm not going to get all fucking mushy. You're welcome, Boogie.
I'm just thank you Unger. You're welcome. I'm glad you're here. You're doing a great job.
So we're the fetish roulette that we picked. That puppy Ramon picked. That puppy Ramon picked. I just saw in the corner my eye creepy was making jack off signs and I'm just going to let them just do that.
We're not going to pick. We're going to pick. We will never. This is why too many dudes.
The drum chair is now a creepy free zone. Christ. Can you get the mad aside and spray the fucking snare drum? Thanks.
No, no, the sible. So we picked fear. What was it? Fear and mind fucking.
And so we're like, well, that's kind of Unger. So Unger, you are now leaving chat room moderator and you are now becoming Unger the co-host. Okay. So lead us.
Unger, you're someone who likes being mind fucking people only. Do you like being mind-fucked? I can do both. Oh.
Let him start. Kathy! Ah! What are you feeling right now?
Did he just mind fucking? Did he just mind fucking? He just mentioned that he just got a lot of fun. It actually worked.
I'm a clever dog. See? See? I can do this.
Anyway, so fear play in mind fuck. It's basically a form of psychological BDSM. One of the biggest differences between these and other types of BDSM is actually physiologically, your body releases different chemicals. Bring physical play, you release endorphins during mind fucks and fear play, you're releasing adrenaline.
So you're getting the fight or fight thing. Kathy, you're heart-fied racing a little bit right now. Just the dad. Yeah.
Maybe you started feeling like you're sweating and stuff. I'm going through my applause so I won't. But only her labia. But that's the fear kicking in that I induce by screaming your name.
That was very freaky. I'm not going to lie. Exactly. Sometimes you can do this number of ways.
With fear, you can play on known fears that someone has. If I know someone is afraid of clowns, I may come as bubbles and chase them at all. If they're afraid of needles, knives, things like that. Spiders.
Spiders. I know we have one chap person who's very afraid of spiders. You can play on that if it doesn't push them too far. Fear play is edge play.
And you can actually push people too far and really cause some major problems. Fear play can be either worked into a scene. Like with knife play, medical play, dental play where it's part of the physical scene. Or you can do something like interrogation scene where you don't necessarily need the physical.
Like doing a third degree type thing. You can just do the mental part of it. You want to five sentences? That's well more than that.
I was actually amazed just listening to you be so articulate. I was like, he's teaching me. I can have a soft side and I can be the smart. All of a sudden I lean on and I'm like, huh, I'm learning things.
This is like an awesome. So now then in your experience between the physical and the mental, do you like having them both involved or do you just get off on the mind fuck? Topping, I like both. I like having them involved, but I also like just doing the mind fuck with fear.
And I'll even do this with certain people I play with just kind of randomly in short spurts. A great example is I got a text the other day from a play partner just good morning. And I replied with, is it now? And I could just hear the pause and hear them going, waiting to respond.
The attacks is just all it is. The attacks. And then I just get this, I think so. I just play with good.
You can just feel it. Even just through attacks. So even like that I could play a little bit in spurts, things like that. And I enjoy that.
I enjoy short term things. I also enjoy long term big scenes and including in play, in physical play. Now do you find you get off more on it when you know the person is into the fear play or is easily afraid? Very much so.
So you like it to be more interactive. Yeah, they got to be jumpy. If they're not into a fear play, there's no use in doing fear play and it just becomes a physical scene. Sure.
Interrogation scenes go wrong like that when they get stubborn and now it's just sadism. Yeah. And if they're not into the fear, it kind of defeats the purpose and you're not going to get what you want out of it. And sometimes that happens.
And sometimes scenes are just physical because the person doesn't have the fear. Right. And have you had a scene go bad that involved fear play or am I fucking? No.
I haven't had a scene go bad because of fear play. I did have, I have had incidents like, for example, grew last year. I did a clown play class. And there's a bunch of different little classrooms around and I just barely peeked out and someone bolted.
Because actually I have a fear of clowns and someone said, hey, just you know, she's freaked. So I went quickly took off the makeup and then we talked to her about her fear and why she's afraid because she doesn't understand it. She really didn't at that point. So I actually helped her in that case by telling her why she's afraid.
She's like, and this is why this, yeah. Wow. Very cool. And then you sodomized her.
No, no. You put a little clown nose on your deck and he's like, oh, he pied her over it. No, I didn't. But now I'm thinking.
And now I look at the microphone that creepy is speaking at two. Oh, it's like a giant red. It is an, it is an, and he's breathing on it. Whatever.
That's going to be changed. Fortunately, those mic muffs are like 50 cents. Good thing. You do fear play done.
I do, but I also do it professionally, which is very different for me because I don't sexualize it. But when I get home, you best believe one of my girls is getting fucked. I'll do the same. I don't think that's where I don't think I'm certain things are going to happen.
I worked at Halloween events in Southern California. And I enjoy scaring people on a professional level as well as a sexual level. And it's just, it's one of my major kinks is taking people out of their comfort zones and just, just drinking it up, seeing them fear me in a enjoyable way is a huge turn on for me. So fear play just, it gets me off man.
And at the same time, it doesn't. You know, it's like a job. Right. And also it's.
I wonder if serial killers feel that way. I don't think they really feel like the fucking job. There I go. I'm cutting another fucking arm.
I've actually gone to a bed. This is getting paid for. I scared the talent. Yeah.
Sometimes it happens when you pop out the scare somebody who hit a fucking walking tree and you're just like, oh, fuck me. They were having a conversation. It was actually too clown, which may be even funnier for me. And I just walked by and did the laugh.
I used for bubbles. And I just heard them stop and go, that was creepy. That was fucked up. Yeah, there's a lot of just scary people.
I'm scared of fear. And I'll share this. Scary brides, man. Scary brides.
Any bride that is not normal scares the shit out of me. Like a bride at the end of honey mansion? Like a. It's not at the end.
But yeah. It gets me scared. Like if I saw a scary bride, fuck it. I'm out.
I'm done. I don't. I don't. So I married an arts murderer.
But like childhood nightmare? You're done. I'm out of it. Like what are you talking about?
I've ran down like there's a scary bride at not scary farm. And I fucking she she chased me every year. And I she chased me. Why don't you get going back?
It was fun. Just bring me. She knows me personally and she fucking she enjoys it. So I get off on the fear play as much as I you know get off on doing the fear play.
Oh my god. Yeah, I got I've had I've had things go where it's like you want the fear and then they're not afraid and then you have to really then it's a different headspace. Like when it goes if you ever had someone not be afraid when you were doing fear play and then it goes just to just stick. And then at that point you kind of have to go well I'm not going to win this interrogation legally.
You know what I mean? Like at some point I have to stop because they're going to be stubborn. And am I going to you know then it's just a whole different. Waterboard with lemonade man lemonade waterboard actually we just waterboarded bunny for a video.
The new song minimal aspirations. She was on the car backwards and I the hose up. What's on who does that song? A zoo it does that.
Wow. Zoo us. That is your new band. That is.
Oh shit. I'm basically waterboarded her boy but she wasn't afraid just very coffee and it was an accident to it was just never. Yes, I'm good. So by the way to get back to the chat because I know they're going to ask what the help because of the the the messed up use of the vocabulary word right we have some pretty interesting posts about that's good cannibal couples cooking people.
Yeah, and accidentally cutting off the wrong thing when they were eating a person and it's like a whole castration and gilding discussion bring it which is frequently used for your play the threat of castration is one of the one of the ways to go. We have a really fucked up chat room. Thank God. They're very.
It is. It is. It is. Great.
Oh, good thing. That was a good topic. Okay, we'll talk about this. We're going to drop the perverted mailbox because we're we are running late.
I want to do it. You do that or Kinky World News. We'll do Kinky World News next week because it's an ongoing time. Kathy, I just want to make you sort of happy.
Perverted mailbox. What's cherry smile? Cherry smile that was a song. That you wrote?
That's one of our songs I put it. I played at the end of a. I figured I just had to make sure because Lena had emailed you and asked you for that link. We randomly send out.
That's people. Someone asked you for that. You just send it? It's free.
I mean, if you can get them, they're on iTunes and CD Baby and all that stuff. I know it buys them or I get half a cent. I sold thousands of songs and literally made like $150. I spent 20 grand on the album or the sixth grand on the other album.
Yeah, so internet downloading. So yeah, you're not going to make money. So I just give it away. Yeah, that was very cool.
She emailed an S specifically for that one. You sent it to her and she wrote back and said, thank you so much for the song. I put it on repeat and got an angry look from the guy who was sitting across the table at the library when I accidentally started singing it. Nice.
That's so nice. Thank you. I got it. Because I told her, I guess I don't know where she's from, but far away somewhere.
And I said, she's like, how can I get that? And I'm like, you know, we're not that big, I'll just email it. If you email me at pervertedpodcast at gmail.com, any of the songs that I play at the end of the show now, I'll just email it to you. I'm just happy you're listening.
At this point, I'm just happy that people are listening to it and actually liking it so I work hard on them and my wife so. So they're enjoying it. So thank you very much. Thank you very much.
So and then finally, oh, she sent you the picture. That's right. That's right. I think you photoshopped a kitty on there.
That's right and a little sloth. That's right. Very nice butt picture. I was like, you know, if you're really grateful about the song Cherry Smile, which is a beautiful song by the way, very, very dark and beautiful, you can come to Los Angeles and you know, let the perving begin.
There we go. You can. Just saying. That entire begin.
I do. We have a whole set up for, you know, holiday. By the way, Cherry Smile is when you take a woman's menstrual blood and smear a smile right out. That is not what the song is about.
I figured it wasn't, but that's, I don't know put that out there. That is hilariously funny though. That is hilariously funny, but that is not what the song is about. Okay.
So finally, Laz wrote to us and he was talking about. Was it last week of the week before you were telling the story about sickos? Oh, yeah. Some of you building.
Two people were having a fight and one of them was trying to calm the girl down and she yells out, I don't give a fuck what those sickos think. That was threshold. That was threshold. Laz says the story about the battling vanilla is a perfect example of how this show destigmatizes the subject of kink.
Someone else hearing sickos shouted in the very placement to be a haven from haters could result in a triggered tailspin. So by joking about it, you gave us permission to laugh too. This show takes serious the topic of play, but plays with things too serious. It's a good thing to remember.
Super fan lads reporting. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. That was amazing.
It actually is. I love that. I'm sorry, but that is true. We do take taboo subjects and we tell you how we fuck it up and how we deal with it when things fuck up or when things don't go the way we want them to.
This whole show is that. I'm going to say something. I'm going to say something. I'm going to say something.
I'm going to make a little observation here. Because you know I just had a birthday. Yes, you did. And you're old like me.
You and I are fucking old. We are fucking old. We're fucking old. And what that means is we don't give, you know, we don't have as many fucks to give.
Like the fuck fairy flew away. It is. Yes. And that probably would have but herd me for like months, you know, when I was in my twenties.
But it's just so wonderful to be at that point where I can see this isn't about me. And that didn't really happen until my 30s. So I think one of the reasons people like perverted podcast is because we're older. Because we've been past some shit that we can now talk and joke about things that I remember when I was really young.
That's what Howard Stern did for me. He would talk about shit. You know that I was like, how can you be buttered? How can you not be buttered by that?
You know, everyone fucking hates them. And it was such a great example to hear someone older that's like, hey, you know, what? At a certain point, you don't give a fuck about that stuff. You just kind of, you know, go on trying to be a better you.