Ooh, good call, Rob. Good call having us order in Chinese for our pre-record meal tonight. It was a good idea, right? I like just having a bunch of Chinese food, just out on the table, people could pick at it, you get a little of everything.
It's fun, people, people. Yeah, people. Imagine other people in our lives. No, no, no, no.
No, thank you. Anyway, I guess there's nothing left to do now, but crack open my favorite part of the Chinese food meal, that fortune cookie. I got a big bowl of them here, so. Oh, great.
Yeah, let me just, let me just, uh, rustle, uh, okay. And let me silently do the same. Hahaha. Alright, let's see here.
What's your say? It just says, um, hold on. It's a bunch of lucky numbers. Let me just flip it over to the other side real quick.
And it says, it says Danny. That's right. I mean, what? That's crazy.
Huh, that's weird. Yeah, that's wild. Alright, let me crack mine open, see what it says. Yeah, please.
Oh, I open mine to the right side. Good instincts. Oh, that's right. It says, um, is weird.
That's weird. Should we open the rest of them? I, I, I kind of, it feels like we're at the beginning of a message here. Yeah, let's do it.
Let's do it. Why don't you, why don't you grab another one? Fine. Alright.
I gotta tell you, I'm not, I'm not thrilled with where this is going, but okay. Okay. Yeah. Hey, it could, it couldn't be anything.
Mm-hmm. Alright. Um, let's see. Alright.
It says, um, handsome. Hmm. That doesn't make any sense. Why not?
I don't know. What does your say? Oh, well mine says, um, your, I'm starting to think they're out of work. Rob, you might just crack the rest open here and scramble them around, see if I can't make the message.
You know what I've always wanted to do? You want to hear, you could do it, but I just, just like smash them all. Do it. You can smash them all.
That's great. Alright, great. Alright. Hold on.
I'm gonna, I have to turn the audio down. I don't want to make a big racket here. Of course. I'm mashing down on the table, both fist Donkey Kong style tears in his eyes.
Oh my God. He's weeping. Alright, so, of course you could be. That was great.
Okay. Wow. You don't sound like you were crying. That's weird.
Um, alright. So got these all on the table here. It's free range. Um, and to be clear, I have no idea what these are going to spell out.
Oh, wow. Look at that, Rob. Danny is dating your handsome mother. What?
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Right. Rob. Yes. Daltan Pima.
It's nice. It feels nice on the skin. Yeah. Are you a Pima guy?
Yeah. I don't care. I mean, I was more talking about how funny it is. Yeah.
I was just more thinking about how odd it is that there's a word Pima and a word Puma. Ah, right. That is weird. Number one and number two.
It is funny that like when they were naming that cat, they were like, I don't know Puma. Right? The committee. Yeah.
The committee like lions, tigers, Puma. Puma. What's the story there? I don't know.
What else is the official this the official podcast? Oh, this is the official podcast of some old friends just getting together after 27 years. Haven't seen each other. Don't really remember each other.
But hey, let's get together and discuss our lives and how they have turned out. The ties that bind, you know, is this evil clown like a metaphor or something or for what? Being scared. Being scared of scary stuff.
Yeah. I mean, yes. It's a powerful metaphor. Ah, damn.
Rob, here's what I'll say. It's almost Christmas time. So this is Christmas, huh? And what have you done?
Is that the next line? Is that what he says? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. What happened? What have you done? It's Christmas.
You fool. I like the urgency though. Oh my God. What have you done?
What have you done? What have you done? What have you done? What have you done?
Everywhere. Oh, no. Have you gone all your Christmas shopping done? Oh, you know me, Dan.
I'm a real last minute sally over here. I got it. It doesn't start with L or M. That's right.
It's an LMS. No, I'm not done shopping at this point. I still have a couple things to do. Mostly gift cards.
I kind of should. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone just get them all gift cards.
That's my. That's all right. This is the kingy tip. Get them all gift cards.
You know you could have been instead of a last minute sally? What's that? A terrying terry. Terry terry.
Terry terry. That's better. Yeah. It's more literative.
I like that. It's maybe lateral. Maybe I'll give myself too much credit. Dan.
So where is this one more question? Oh, yeah. Where are the gift cards going to be for? What are they going to be for?
Panera. I do have to get a Panera. Yeah. Yeah.
Who is this for a personal enemy? An arch nemesis? Yep. It's for hospital food.
It is hospital food. It is literally hospital food. Yeah. It's like people fucking love Panera.
But like if they put if you told me there's a Panera in every single hospital, you're like, yeah, that makes sense. It makes sense. All right. All right.
Hold on. Who loves Panera? Yeah. Nobody loves Panera.
We talk. You said people love Panera. They do. All right.
They wait a second. So they just put a Panera not far from where I work. Okay. And there's also like there's some other stuff over there.
There's other fast food bullshit as well. That Panera always it's a drive through. That motherfucker always has a line like out there parking lot and into the next parking lot. Yeah.
I don't know. Or out of their mind. I think it's just because like people are sick of eating slob and Panera presents itself as being a slightly. A step above slob.
Just like yeah, just slightly better than just eating true traditional fast food. It's like I would have had a slob or an apple core. Right. Yeah.
Like a brown, brown apple core. I'm saying I personally am taking the apple. This piggy is taking the apple core. Sure.
Yeah. Totally. I've been in Panera, you know, over many times, ten times in my life. Every time I'm like, this is like, it presents itself as like, hey, do you want like a turkey and cheddar cheese sandwich on whole wheat?
And you're like, yeah, that seems like pretty normal. They're like, and it's actually not normal. Sorry. They're like, all right, hold on.
Let me, let me run over to Starbucks and open up one of those sandwiches in the cold case. You put that on a plate for you. Yeah. Let me go to the college, the community college dining hall.
Yes. Get you. I mean, it's a DeXo food. That is, I believe that's who it should be for.
I think grown people probably shouldn't be eating Panera so much. But you know, if you're in a hospital or a college student, Panera is probably your best friend. Yeah. If you're, if you're, if your life is ruined or you're ruining your life, then yeah, if your life is already ruined or you're ruining it and you just, you're not, you just don't know what you hate.
What's, um, I think it was probably, it must have been dobois, but whatever guess they had talking about it said that that's like a place, you go to Panera to like just sign the divorce papers. Yeah, that's, that's true. Or like have a conversation about like putting your parents in a home, that kind of thing. It's no good news.
A Panera. No, there's no, I mean, how are you going to give somebody good news over like a fucking cheddar cheese soup, right? Oh, no, here's an idea. Yeah.
Pantera bread. Ah, I go there. Well, Pantera, I mean, they do, they're doing that reunion tour right now. Is that right?
Yeah. I mean, even though, you know, Phillip and Selmo folded up the swastika flag for a minute. That's cool. That's pretty cool.
That's why I'm going. I'm going to see the worst guy in the band and not the guy who, not the best guy who died tragically. Right. That's right.
Yeah. You know, I'll tell you what though, these days people are so woke, they'd have to call Pantera Pantera X. So it's like, what a neutral, like Latin X. Latin X.
Yeah, it's just because people are so woke. I mean, people are so, these days Pantera is getting a Grammy because every musical artist is getting a Grammy. Now it's participation trophy. Right.
Everybody gets a Grammy. Nobody is male or female anymore. Fucking, yeah, you, nothing. Nothing.
I'm scared. I'm scared. And this has been right turns. How many genders are there, Dan?
Oh, God. Okay. Not a huge Biden guy over here, but truly one of the most endearing things that means I said was when someone asked him that, he said at least three. That's truly just like doing the best with the information you have.
That's so good. I don't know, at least three. Oh, God. I mean, he's not wrong.
He didn't say two. Yeah. That's pretty good. That's a, there's a video.
It was like, some guy who was at a, I think it was like some sort of a trans rally and he was, the guy was against these, you know, these people, right? And he's interviewing people. He's trying to select some gotcha journalism. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. The dumbest guy you could possibly imagine trying to outwit anybody. Yeah.
Classic. And he walks up to somebody and he's like, how many genders are there? And he shoves the mic in his, this guy's facing. And he's like, I don't know.
I just got here. Just wait. Oh, wow. He's like, that's a perfect answer.
Yeah. That's really good. Still kind of getting my bearings. I'll get back to you.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm still figuring out myself. Well, speaking of, um, evil clowns, like that man going to yuck it up, yum.
This week on King me, we're going back to dairy. Ah, the, the, the lovely town of Derry, Maine. He calls to you or whatever, right? You see that on the storefront window?
Yeah, it calls to you. It calls to you. It's a chapter two, 2019. We're closing the chapter.
Was this released pre-pandemic, 2019? Pre-demic, pre-demic. And look, I'm just going to say, right off the bat, this thing stinks. Much like being a sewer Pennywise lives in, stinks to high heaven.
I do, there are a couple of parts that I think are not terrible, but I would say that most of this movie is not good. Yeah. And it's like, it's a shame. It's a damn shame.
It's a damn shame. Let's talk about, let's start off on a positive note here. What do you like about this? What do I like about this?
Great question. See, like, I mean, this is sort of, this is a double edged sword, right? I like, stay with me here, let me finish. I like the casting of Bill Hader as Richie.
Okay. But, the pro, like, I do like him, but I feel like they lean on Bill Hader way too much in this movie. Totally. He's, you know, I get it like he's the jokester or whatever, but the guy has like, I don't know, too many lines.
So I like Bill, the James McAvoy character, is kind of the main character. And he does like him and Beverly, like the two of them are kind of the leads, and the rest of them are still, you know, main characters, but it's an ensemble. But like, I don't know, I always felt like we were supposed to be following them. And then, you know, with Bill Hader, they just, they give them like, you know, button, a button joke on every single scene.
Totally. And it just, it becomes too much. Yeah. Like, yeah, to your point, I feel like, so Beverly is the, I think, last member of the club that we catch up with in the beginning.
Yeah. And just beyond that, she gets like Jessica Chastain as Beverly gets like nothing really to do, seemingly. Yeah. And then trauma, nightmare scene when they're running from it, which also kind of sucked.
It didn't really, right? Right. Right. The bathroom stall thing.
And then also like James McAvoy as Bill. Also, despite having, right, like he has that sequence where he chases after the kid in the fun house. Right. And even with that, it feels like he's off to the side, right?
Because that's like a little side quest that he just goes on that's kind of tangential to the broader plot, right? Like, that's like his personal struggle, struggle. Excuse me. It doesn't really sort of organically mesh with the rest of the story.
Yes. Sorry. I also, I think that I don't, casting Jessica Chastain and James McAvoy in this is incredibly distracting. I like, well, considering that the other members of the gang are Jay Ryan, Isaiah Mustafa, James Ransone and Andy Bean.
Yeah. Totally. Like even like Bill Haters, Bill Hater, but he's like, he's a character, right? Yes.
And Chastain and James McAvoy, I know McAvoy is like a fucking ham when it wants to be. Right. The glass and... Right.
Yeah. He's like good. I think of him as like good Joseph Gordon Levitt. Okay.
You know? Very enthusiastic, but a little better with the execution. Right. But yeah, they're both like lead actors.
And so... See, like, right, that's a thing, like, if they had cast, say, Bryce Dallas Howard instead of Chastain, like, that makes more sense to me, right? Like, like Andy in there? Right.
They're kind of, I mean, they're very similar, you know? How similar? Look at whatever. How so?
Yeah. But also like... I feel like these two actors are kind of above this. And I feel like it would have been...
These characters would have maybe popped a little bit more if they were in the hands of like more of a character, actor, kind of a person and could... They could do a little bit more with it. Like, every time McAvoy stutters, I'm like, I know that you... Like, I don't believe you.
Yeah. I know that you're James McAvoy. Right. Yeah.
You are the last King of Scotland forever and all. Forever and all. Right. And like, and the other...
So like, the guy who plays Mike, Isaiah Mustafa, I thought he was a little weak in the role. I thought there was like... And I think it's more the writing of the character. I fully agree.
It's really not clear like what... What his motivation or like... I don't know. It's...
Or what he's been... What his mental state is also. It seems like he... Like, when he's taken the chair and he's bashing the table at the Chinese restaurant and he's saying this isn't real, right?
I don't know. So the character is looking at these things and he realizes they're not real. So he's trying to convince everybody they're not real. So he takes the chair and does a crazy thing and passes the table and makes a huge scene.
Yeah. And you're like, this isn't... I don't know. The...
Invincing everybody that's not real and destroying this table and room and whatever. It's like, I don't know. These two things don't equal each other. Right.
Like, he's... You know, unfortunately, as we learn later, I have not... So I haven't read it. I have to know if this little bit is in the book.
But we find out later that he has gone on a Native American vision quest to find out how to destroy Pennywise. That was the most psychotic thing I've ever seen in my life. If that's in the book, just don't do it. Like, that didn't hurt my...
But to your point, to your point, right? It's like, he... I feel like the better execution of this character is like obsessive and like seems crazy, but there's like a logic to what's happening. Right?
Yes. If he understands what's happening here in the Chinese restaurant, why isn't he just like pick up like one of the little monsters on the table and just be like, it's not real. Right. Yeah.
Right. Like something... Right. Like, with all...
He's the one who stayed in town, right? He's the one who's been following this and he's the one that knows that it has come back. So he's the one who tries... He rounds everybody back up, right?
Yeah. So... But he lives in an abandoned library that's his home. So it's like, I mean, and he has been obsessing about this for the past 27 years.
Right. And he should come off as like someone who's obsessive and like, you know, but then like the more they go on or whatever or the more these people start remembering things or whatever, they should... Then they come to realize, oh, he's not crazy. He's actually...
He knows just a lot about all this stuff and we should actually be listening to him. Yeah. And instead like by the end of it, everybody's kind of like, fuck you, Mike, for bringing us here. Yeah.
Yeah. Which like, I think, again, like I don't even object to that at a certain point because like the whole thing is shot through with them being like, this is a bad idea or whatever. Right. And that's fine.
That makes sense. And but yeah, it's just like his... I mean, a lot of it is like the pacing in terms of like the plot. Yeah.
But also just like the character arcs, they're not smooth. They're sort of they're craggy. Right. So like Mike is in one spot character development wise until he shows...
Until he doses Bill with Iowaska or whatever the fuck in and shows him what he knows about Pennywise. Right. And yeah, I don't know. It just...
Yeah. So just like, I don't know, there's just so much like stray stuff. Right? It just feels like there's like character debris.
Like Richie, Richie being gay just feels like thrown in the pile in like... What? Yeah. Like it's Hintadat.
It's never really explored at all. And there's never like a moment where, you know, he's able to like tell his friends this and they like, because he's like this is a secret. He's hiding this. Right.
But these are people that, you know, that care about them that, you know, they're friends and they still like, they came back to, you know, save this town and save each other and shit. And the... I don't know, it just seems weird that... It never comes up especially because like, as Mike is sort of like explaining the rules of how you beat Pennywise, excuse me, he's like, basically, what the fuck dude?
Basically, you... What's the... What's the... He calls him like a ritual of truth or something?
Yes. Something like that. So it's like that doesn't come up once. Right.
And he keeps saying like there are things we're not remembering about that summer. There are things we're not addressing. Yes. Oh, why didn't you just do it?
Why didn't you just do it? Why didn't you just do it? I don't know. Also, the Paul Bunyan thing.
Stupid. That's the fuck. Like, to talk about the pacing of this movie, right? So the movie opens up with that, that those...
The gay couple, right? And they're at the fair, which this is in the book. And you know, they... There's some townies...
Wait a second, townies. What the hell? We got to take a trip down town lane. I'll see in 10 minutes.
Alright. Here comes Big Bad Dead. I wonder how much they pay for it. I have to call Mitch.
Rod, pose for baseball. Let's just about to find a smell in the world. So maybe they'll push you. They don't cut me outsiders and they probably won't have a phone either.
Looney, looney, looney. What is it that you want? I need it. What's a morain?
Go on. Last town report said you were in a rear. Is it in your taxes, Andy? Hey, that was hard.
They're just smart. Guess I'll never be lucky. Hell, I married anyone. Lays, men.
Let's make us a baby doggy style. Where's your money? The young she does it because she likes photographs of tentacles. Lion and coffees.
This week's showman of Captain have chained the door. Bingo? He's just like the one I used to have in an ice cold before I was a bum. I got the cancer and she got the change so I knew that I was all that fun to live with.
That cat is really good. Welcome to the townie profile. Welcome to the townie profile. What are we talking about?
What were we talking about yesterday? The couple that's at the fair, right? They're harassed by some like the townies, right? They like throw some homophillers at him.
It's like one guy in his 20s and then a bunch of teenagers. They sang an hour. The rank-cool guy. You got the one like super cool guy and then his posse of teens.
And then they beat the one guy and throw him off the bridge. Which like, I mean, it's like a brutal way to open the movie. But like, I don't know, it grabs your attention. It's like scary because this guy, once he's thrown off the bridge and into like this river, he floats off to wherever and Pennywise is there.
Pennywise grabs him out of the water and then just takes like a big bite out of his arm pit. Yeah. We see a lot more Pennywise eating people in this one. We do.
Interesting. And then we get like all of the, then we have like, all right, Mike knows Pennywise is back. So he's got to round up everybody. And like all of this stuff, all of these things are like, it's in the book.
But I kind of feel like because the original story goes back and forth between when they're adults and kids, right? So this is just the adult story now. You lose like, I don't know, the pacing definitely feels off and weird because you don't have that, like the parallel story is going at the same time. You know, you don't have the thing.
Like when something slows down in the grownup version story, then they can bounce back to the kids, you know? Right. Right. They don't have that here.
And they do like what I think what makes it worse too is like they do a lot of, they go back in time a lot. But they go back in time to all the stuff that happened between the plot points of, right? It's all just this like, it's all that happened. Yeah.
It's all stuff on the cutting room floor or whatever. Right. It's stuff that happened after the first movie and like that summer. So like it shows them like hanging out in like an underground fort that they made and like all of this other stuff, which like, I don't know, I couldn't stand any of that stuff when they were kids in this version.
Yeah. Like every time they went, they had a life like it just like drove me nuts. It had no stakes or purpose. It really was just like listening to, it's like you're hanging out with someone who's hanging out with, and they're like an older friend is there.
Like someone they've known their whole life. They start talking about like high school or whatever and you're just listening. Yeah. You're really just getting like a snippet with like insufficient context, you know?
It's like, we're seeing this for the first time. This was nowhere in the story of the first movie. So why is it important? How can you tell me this is important when it's not important?
Right. Like they go to the fort when they're adults, right? And then Ben falls and he falls like into the fort or whatever, right? And then we get the flashback of them like going to the fort for the first time, which we haven't seen before.
And we don't have any sort of like connection with it. No. And by the end of that scene, we still don't because all that happens is that any Eddie is like the fucking building inspector and all he does is like point out structural weaknesses in the fort and then like, and then break like a ball, a paddle with a ball on a string that what's that called? Right.
It's just a ball and a ball and paddle. Ball and paddle. He just like plays with that toy and then breaks it. And then for no reason we cut to fucking Ben finding the ball and just being like, oh, yeah, I remember that day.
Okay. All right, man. Yeah. So in so everybody's this was the other thing too was like, I don't know the in the original version in the miniseries that we watched, right?
It felt like everybody as adults, they were kind of varying degrees of failing, right? Like Bill was a writer and he was working in like movies or TV or something like that. But I don't know, it seemed like it's something was going on with him in the first one. I can't remember.
But in this one, it's basically like everybody's like, yeah, that was a great story. I hated the ending, right? Which is like a Stephen King thing. Like everybody tells me that or that's like the main complaint.
Yes. Apparently Ben is supposed to be an alcoholic, which I didn't really. I didn't get that at all. Right.
Like not even a little. Do we see him drink even once? There's one time when he's drinking in there's like when we first see him and he's like doing that video conference meeting with like the board of director. Yeah.
And he has like, you know, like two fingers of whiskey in a glass and that's which which Richie also requests and then guzzles before he goes on stage for his big standup show. Right. Yes. So Ben is like, right.
Right. No, Richie is like a successful comedian. He's like a successful standup comedian. He's selling out theaters.
Also, the idea that he would like flub a joke and then someone in the crowd would instantly turn on him even though they're clearly there to see him. Also the fact that that show was happening while it was still daylight out. Yeah. Yeah.
It's a three o'clock show. Man, nay. And then like the stuff with Beverly to the so like we know in the first, you know, in the book in this in the mini series, whatever she's in this like horrible abusive relationship, right? And in this we definitely see a glimpse of that.
But there's, you know, and like the guy it's so it's strange. It comes out of what seems like nowhere. Yeah. There's a purposeful misdirection with that.
Right. Yes, which is obnoxious. Like it's so like it's in the middle of the night she gets the phone call and she's got to pack her bags and go. Right.
So she's packing her bags and then the husband catches her packing her bags. Right. And as the viewer, we know that this is a bad guy. So we're like, Oh shit.
And then he's like, Oh no, it's fine. Yeah. It's totally fine to go to dairy to see your friends and whatever. You know, just let me know when you get there or something.
Right. Like super chill about it. Yeah. And then like, and then he grabs her arm and he's like, and then he's like, Why are you lying to me?
It's like this real fast turn. Yeah. Right. Is she scared?
Like if he's the guy that's going to be like, Why are you lying to me? And then hit her, right? I have to imagine this has happened before in their relationship. And the whole nice guy thing, like the way that she is playing it isn't like somebody who is in an abusive relationship.
Let's say, no, she's playing it like she knows she's it's almost like she's been practicing this exact sequence of fight moves. Right. And that is like, I think that's also like a broader problem with the movie is like all of the chase scenes and like the confrontations with Pennywise or whatever, it all is kind of shot like an action movie or something. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Like it actually undercuts the stakes because it's so stylized in that way that it just like the visual language of it is just like you're watching a movie. Right. And the type of movie where your friends always win, you're good guys.
So it's like, and I don't know, I really felt it even just in that domestic violence scene, which is not how that should be shot at all. Right. Like, you know, it's right. It's played as like some sort of, right, like a, like it could have been set to like fight song.
The way she just like fucking kicks ass like immediately, it's crazy. It doesn't, and look, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not here saying like, I wish women would suffer more on screen, but like it is not in any way compelling or believable. Like, I guess I am saying that in this specific instance, because there's no like emotional stakes to it. Well, yeah, I mean, like the, it doesn't even have to be like, I don't know, like a physical thing necessarily, but like the fact that I don't know, like emotionally the scene just does not work.
Right. I would argue there is no emotion. There's no right. Exactly.
Like, you know, sorry. No, go ahead. Just like you don't, you don't see all you know is that she's like, they establish that there's a pattern of abuse there just with his action. Right.
But there's nothing, we don't see how she normally responds. So yeah, there's no payoff when she finally like clots him in the head or whatever. Right. Yeah.
What if she did it with the lid of the toilet tank again? She like has like a wooden case and she pulls out the lid of a toilet tank. Yeah. That'd be great.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It just, it feels like, you know, part of the part of the story is that these, these people they grow up right and they're just like, the things that affected them as kids still affect them as adults, right?
Yeah. So like Bev's father was abusive. So now she's in an abusive relationship, right? Yeah.
You know, Richie, not Richie, Eddie, you know, Eddie had a controlling mom and now he's married to his mom. Yeah. Yeah. A BBW who acts like his mom.
Also I got to say the guy playing Eddie, like incredible, incredible casting. Yeah. Like the sort of the way he aligns with the child version of Eddie is like really fucking impressive. I actually really liked the actor.
Yeah. It's so like it's the fact that he's like a rich. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah.
Risk management. Yeah. Like he's playing like a New York asshole, but he's so clearly just like trembling, you know, he's like a chihuahua. Yes.
He's the guy he's in season two of the wire. That's the the Doc's season. He plays young Ziggy. Ah, Ziggy.
Yeah. But right. But like, I don't know, there's like, there are all these like vulnerabilities with these characters, right? And all of these things that have been, they've been carrying their whole lives, right?
And it really seems like once they all get to that Chinese restaurant, like all of those things are dropped, those character traits, all of the trauma and all of these things that they've gone through or whatever are non-existent. Like Eddie is still like a bit of a like whatever doesn't want to get hurt. You know, he's maybe hanging back a little bit, but like, I don't know, nobody else is like, I don't get a like Ben, like being the like the fact kid and now he's all like ripped and he's got to have some stuff via the Ryan Reynolds movie. Just friends.
Oh, just friends. Yeah. Just friends. I don't know.
I just wasn't convinced by any of this stuff, you know? Yeah. I fully agree. So once they, so they have that whole Chinese restaurant scene, right?
Where like the fortune cookies, they start, you know, giving birth to all these like weird grotesque little creatures. And then after that, like they all have to like, they have to go on a quest, like individually to find their, I think they're called tokens, right? It's even a artifact. Or the artifact?
It might be a artifact. It's something like that. It doesn't matter. But that alone is like an hour of the movie, them all like going on their own separate journeys.
It's like a video game. Like, okay, you have everybody has to split up and get their thing and then we'll regroup, you know? But it's like, it's a long fucking time that they're out there looking for their shit. And I don't know, man.
They could have taken all of that out. I agree. Like it's literally just an excuse. No point.
Right. The only function it serves is to recreate those set pieces from the first movie where they all have like their individual traumas. Right. And that sucks.
It does. And you know what, you know, it's even worse is like it turns out that the best constructed scene in the movie is also the one in the trailer where Beverly goes to the old apartment. Right. And that old lady.
Which also just could say it. Not even that good. Not even that good. Especially like what do you think of the monster reveal?