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EPISODE · May 12, 2026 · 31 MIN

107 Mike Grinberg: Why Positioning Is Really a De-Risking Problem

from Agency Forward · host Chris DuBois

Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Mike Grinberg.Mike is the founder of Proofpoint Marketing, a positioning consultancy that works primarily with boutique firms in regulated industries like life sciences, financial services, and med tech. I wanted to have Mike on because, selfishly, we think about positioning very similarly. Mike's take on positioning is that he doesn't treat it as a messaging problem. He treats it as a business design problem. But in addition, he also has a great way of viewing positioning through the lens of derisking the buying decision, and it's incredibly helpful. In this episode, we discuss:Why positioning is an operations problem, not a marketing problemThe four-box risk matrix agencies can use to understand how buyers evaluate themWhy personal risk matters more than organizational risk in most dealsAnd more...You can learn more about Mike on LinkedIn.-----------Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.Gia flips that.It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency-----------No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.So what's different?The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.Access to peers who've done it before.Access to experts who've designed solutions.Access to resources that have been battle-tested.And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.You can join at DynamicAgencyOS.com/Community.-----------Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.-----------And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

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Mike Grinberg, founder of Proofpoint Marketing, breaks down why positioning is an operational discipline — not a messaging exercise — and how agencies can use buyer research and de-risking frameworks to win more deals and stop getting ghosted at the finish line.

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