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EPISODE · Mar 18, 2026 · 35 MIN

108. Perinatal OCD: The Often Missed or Misdiagnosed Perinatal Mood Disorder

from The Expecting and Empowered Podcast · host Amy Kiefer + Krystle Howald

Maternal mental health is a critical yet often misunderstood part of the postpartum experience, and this conversation shines light on an important topic many parents may not fully understand: perinatal and postnatal OCD. Amy is joined by Betty Flores, LCSW, PMH-C, and Justine Rae Murray, LCSW—two therapists who specialize in perinatal and postnatal mental health and obsessive-compulsive disorder. Betty and Justine share how their own postpartum experiences led them to pursue additional training in perinatal and postnatal mental health. Both women are passionate about helping parents understand their postpartum experiences, recognize that they are not alone, and access the support they need to feel better.Betty and Justine break down what OCD is and how it often involves intrusive thoughts or images that feel distressing and repetitive, followed by compulsive behaviors or mental rituals. While many parents experience the occasional intrusive thought and are able to move along with their day, Betty and Justine describe OCD as feeling “stuck” in the stickiness of intrusive thoughts, not able to move past the thought. Many moms feel ashamed or afraid to speak openly about intrusive thoughts, which can delay diagnosis and treatment. Betty and Justine also emphasize an important message: postpartum OCD is treatable with ERP therapy. Help is available, and you don’t need to walk through this alone.If you have a loved one walking through perinatal or postnatal OCD, Betty and Justine encourage you to seek education, have compassion, and demonstrate patience. Understanding what OCD actually is, and offering a supportive, nonjudgmental presence, can make a powerful difference for someone working through intrusive thoughts and OCD. If you enjoyed listening to this episode, we would love it if you could share it to your Instagram stories and tag us, @perinatal_wellness, @gem.utah, and @expectingandempowered. As we like to say, knowledge is power, and we just really want to give more people the information that they may need on their childbirth journey!Follow Betty and Justine on InstagramBetty’s Website and TikTokJustine’s WebsiteFind a therapist with Postpartum Support InternationalInternational OCD Foundation’s Find A ProviderLinks & ResourcesExpecting and Empowered App - Enter code 'PODCAST25' at checkoutExpecting and Empowered WebsiteExpecting and Empowered InstagramThis episode was brought to you by the Pivot Ball Change Network.

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Maternal mental health is a critical yet often misunderstood part of the postpartum experience, and this conversation shines light on an important topic many parents may not fully understand: perinatal and postnatal OCD. Amy is joined by Betty Flores, LCSW, PMH-C, and Justine Rae Murray, LCSW—two therapists who specialize in perinatal and postnatal mental health and obsessive-compulsive disorder. Betty and Justine share how their own postpartum experiences led them to pursue additional traini...

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