You're gonna regret ever coming up with this. Why do I feel like all of these things are going to be at me and they're not going to be flattering? That should be good. Another underwear?
Is that the same one? No, it's the, well, yeah. I think, no. Yeah, that's me.
That's me. How could you tell? You cannot tell. Of course you can tell.
You can't tell your lover's sense, especially that sense. Not after how many days has it been there? How many weeks has it been there? I am like an elephant bloodhound.
You're like the bionic man with bionic nose. I'm all snip, snip, snip, snip, snip, snip, snip. Dannin, nip, snip, snip, snip. Oh, show 109 starts really, really old.
Anyone under 40's gonna be like, what are they referring? What is this bionic man? This bionic man, we have bionic people all over now. This is very, very bionic.
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I'm Kathy. And I am Count Boogie and we got a whole quur. Did I just say good evening? Did you say good evening?
Yeah, yes Boogie, I did. Oh, it's a new character. I know what it is though. Is it Igor Boogie?
Is it Igor Unger? Not exactly. Who are you today? If you don't know, they never mind.
That's so freaky. Are you staring me? Stewart Smolly? No.
No, are you Stewart? Look at what I can do. I don't know who he is. Who are you?
I'm good enough. No, you're not Stewart. No, you're Reagan? No, I'm Peter Laurie.
Oh my god. This is so Peter Laurie. Yes. Yes, Kathy, it is.
It's the fucking Peter Laurie. Oh, you know who he is. It's Vincent Price and those horrible. Oh, oh, oh, look at the lovely tonight Kathy.
Stop it. That's freaking me out, man. It's the master kind of the pleasure to see you. It was the Igor before there was Igor.
That is so goddamn creepy. We got it. Carrie. What?
Your guest post thing. Sit in the chair. It's also very, very nice to see Carrie tonight. This is the freakiest fucking thing I've ever heard.
Oh my god. It passes even you and clowns. We have quite a crowd tonight. Carrie, Carrie, welcome to the show.
Put on some headphones. You've got to get out of this habit of picking people out of the audience at the last second and saying your guest host. Well, Carrie's guest hosted before so it's like she knows the routine. Look at her struggling with her hands.
So she can just pull that mic right up your face. Yes, I have practice. That's good. Just pull it right between your legs.
Just slide it in there. This is show 109. Look what you've done. She's getting off.
We got master Lord God leather worker Joe. Joe. She's no. And then we got, wait, where did you go?
Newmark. Newmark just left. She's left. She's a tree bark.
I named her tree bark. She's just playing with toys. She's just picking up my toys and rubbing them against her. Now who wouldn't anybody who's been in this room?
That's true. She's more like Peppermint Bark. Okay, you're now Peppermint. I want to put her in my mouth.
Oh, that's even creepier than under. I like the fact that Carrie literally just met tree bark like 40 seconds ago and women can get away with sexual harassment. That's true. And it's like fun.
It's like, oh my god. This strange woman just wanted to like my pussy. That's fucking great. That's so cool.
Yes, my boobs are real. Here touch them. That's great. Oh my gosh.
Death and police and dirty looks and threats of testicular cancer. No, actually it would be a lot of, oh, that's nice. That's nice. Look at the hell out of here.
I see you on the floor. I don't know because that's where she belongs. She's good. All right, so we got a lot of stuff.
What'd you do? What'd you do this week? I moved. I'm in the middle of moving.
Wow, that sounds like a fucking blast. I counted. It's my ninth move in 10 years. I'm so exhausted.
Just one more. No, there's going to be more after this. There's no end in sight. I don't know.
You're Vagabond Cathy. I am a Vagabond Cathy. Vagabond Cathy. I'm going to go with a little hobo stick on your thing with a dildo hanging out of it.
With all my toys hanging out. I'm popping on trains and shit. Putting cans of fucking lima beans on an open fire. Sucking dick as you go.
Is that the kind of homeless person you were? Well, other than the second dick. I was pretty much like that kind of homeless person. Did you just suck any dick this weekend?
I did suck some dick. I thought creative explorers like, hey, it's usual because he's a nice guy. He's my apartment this weekend because he's at Anime Expo. He trained for that, right?
He literally trained. He trained to go to Anime Expo. He was like, I got to get up early. I'm like, you never get up early.
You don't work until later. He's like, well, I decided I'm going to start walking. So every morning I wake up an hour early, then I normally would. I walk for half an hour and then I walk back for half an hour.
So that's like an hour a day. I'm like, why that's so cool. He's been going to the doctor. He's been getting checkups.
And then I find out later that he's actually training for Anime Expo. Because it's three days of walking. Yes. It's not for his health.
He's so that he could get in some more of the expo. That is so high nerd. And that is there. That is the highest nerd I've ever heard.
That is nerd training. That is unreal. So he's like, he plays the Rocky theme song. He's out.
He's out. He's out. He's like, I'm training for Anime Expo and I'm nerding out while I'm doing it. Exactly.
That is funny. So I went to Anime Expo and gave me his place. But I was sure to get a couple of blow jobs in before he left. I'm like, that's just part of the training.
Is that part of the training? Low jobs is part of the training. It's kind of like post-event massage, pre- and post-event massage. Big stuff.
You got to circulate. So you can get that flow. Absolutely. It's a fast paced workout.
Slow paced, that's Swedish Massages for relaxation. Post- and pre-event massage. That's a deep tissue massage. Not deep tissue.
It's very shallow. Low jobs are shallow because the penis is, you know, you got to work that. It's only so thick as you can be. Unless it's me.
Unless it's me. Wait a minute. That's correct. What in the world is going on?
I don't know. But there's a stripping down tree bark is getting nakeder and you is pulling off her pants and playing with her breasts. Please continue. Yeah, let's just pretend we're not here.
Let's just show. Let's just show. I'm like, I'll just go a little bit over there. I'll just go a little over there.
Yeah, yeah. You're kind of in the way. That's a nice, lazy talk. What?
That's right. You're going to a Prince tribute concert after this and so she's wearing purple. Which looks good on tree bark, by the way. I've never put purple on a tree bark.
But now I'm just going to go out to the fucking park and randomly wanderize. Can't see it or Gary? But lingerie on trees. Oh, it's very seductive.
You know, they're very good. I'm teaching you to be a little predator. Yeah. Daddy's proud.
I think he's pulling your pants off and everything. This is fucking. We worked for this. I'm so proud of you.
It's such a lovely weekend in Perversion. We went to the park. We had, I mean, Bunny and you and I had a lovely picnic where we shot 3D video of immense crazy fucking craziness. You had to just go and have the picnic.
You had to pivot out and shoot a 3D video that's all pervy. You couldn't just have any of the house unless I'm motivated by like multiple projects. We got it. We got it like, come on, boogie.
Yeah, come on. Look, there's some fireworks. You can bring your camera. Look, look, look, look, look.
I got the whole life footage. I got footage. But let me tell you, I'm not giving away. It's for the finals song or zoo song finals.
And there was one where I had them both climb the tree and that was very awkward in 3D. But it looked really cool, especially the fact that Bunny was wearing like these naked kind of panties that you couldn't really tell her panties. And it looked like you just got a total upshot. So that's coming out of the finals video.
It was a good day. And then I, oh, I had to mention, in case there's any daddies or mommies out there. This is really important. I don't mean to take it down kind of a notch.
This is a PSA. This is absolutely a PSA. I wasn't aware of this. This is new information.
Pay attention. Mommies and daddies. Littles make fucking horrible nurses. That's true.
This is a fact. I have a feeling something that most people would know. No? Okay.
So every like few years you eat something, you know, and you get like some weird rash or something. I mean, at least I do. Every year you get a fucking weird rash. Every year I break out and go for AIDS or whatever the fuck it is.
And so I got the, I started seeing, I see them coming on. I'm like, yeah, that's not right. Now I'm broke. You know, because I shave hair and you know, maybe it's an ingrown hair.
And then there's a few too many. And then all of a sudden I pulled down my shirt and I have like all these things about, okay, time to go to the doctor and get some steroids. So by the way, don't piss me off today because I'm on prednisone and that shit just makes you fucking aggro as hell. But I've done pretty good.
I've been across all this stuff. I've done pretty good. So I go and get the thing and now I'm covered in bumps and like one day just go pop up up up and I'm like, holy shit. So, and then the doctor's like, no, this is an allergic reaction.
I'm like, what about fucking like, go for syphilis or something? I don't know, same thing, whatever. So they're all, we're going to give you these steroids, whatever. But now I'm covered with all these dots and I got bunny coming over and muse here.
And I'm like, well, this is, you know, it doesn't look pretty, but you know, hey, sometimes, you know, this happens. So I'm, you know, feeling a little insecure about it because, you know, I'm already not the hottest guy in the world. So now I got all these fucking like bumps. So I'm like, you know, hey, this is, you know, I got this thing and it's kind of weird.
And I, so I take off my shirt, which I'm uncomfortable about and they're like, oh, look at this, you know, I'm pulling up and there's dots on my legs and my whatever. So I took about four fucking seconds for these two motherfuckers to jump up, grab a handful of fucking Sharpie in dillible ink pens and decide that they're going to start playing connect the dots with my fucking allergic reaction bumps. That's cool. Hey, like I'm just like, are you fucking kidding me?
I'm like, can we, can we, can we, can we, can we, can we, can we, can we, can we, can we literally within like 40 seconds, I am covered from head to toe in patterns and things. I'm all this is not right. Yeah, but it's got, it's, this is a alcohol base. So it helps it'll dry out.
Yeah, that's it. That's it's not right. And of course they use Sharpie. So I look like a fucking shitty GPS map for like the next four days.
Oh, by the way, nice nail polish. Yeah, that's another, that's another, that's another daddy and horse. So they make horrible, but what was even better is Mew had to go because, you know, anal sex will get you a UTI every now and again. So horrible, horrible man.
So, and you, things that she needs to go to the doctor for. I was gonna, I was gonna look at her and go, but it was worth it, right? She's like, yeah, sometimes we're all the dice. And we try to be whatever, but this is not, this is the amazing story.
This Mew wishes she could talk. She wishes so bad that she could talk because it was the most epic doctor visit because I went with her. So first we go in the room and the doctor sees that she has frequent UTIs. She has more UTIs than the most people.
She's very easily gets UTIs. Is this the free clinic? No, no, no. This is actually, this is her hospital.
And so she goes in and, and the doctor's like, you know, you've, you've had a lot of these and she's like, why? And this lady's just like really grilling her and, you know, Mew's not really saying anything. She's getting ready to say something. And the doctor's like, I think you know, we need to check you for diabetes.
We need to check you for all. I mean, she's going down this list and you can just see this is now going sideways. And finally, I'm sitting in the room 26 year age difference between us looking like her dad and I just go, it's anal. Oh, no, you didn't.
Not like that. You didn't say it like that. I did exactly like that. I said, yes, anal.
And, and the doctor literally just lit up and it's just like nobody ever is brave enough to tell me this. And so we went into a 15 minute lesson on anal sex and the ways and the methods that you can use to limit by changing positions, so the lube and the, you know, whatever but stuff, you know, goes away from the vagina. You patiently waited, even though you probably know this already, right? Sure.
I mean, yeah, and I wanted to make sure that she had a chance, but, and she's like, I don't do anal and, and you came out the best line coming. So I give her this whole thing about the lifestyle and anal and how it works and, you know, what we know and what we've learned so far and she's like, this is amazing. I didn't know any of this, so which is good. We're, can't keep people who are out need to talk to their physicians because their physicians don't know.
How hard you're to say the doctor literally say I didn't know this. The doctor literally said they don't talk about methods of how to have better anal sex to avoid UTIs that your rologist knows. Your urologist because they have much more experience in this. Hey, you got to do this and try to avoid this, but your general practitioners and stuff like that, you know, they know a lot of different stuff, but they don't have tips and techniques because people talk honestly.
So if you can talk to your doctors, don't be embarrassed to talk to your doctors because they may, you may be able to at least get them started on the path that they can look up stuff. And so she was really grateful and she's like, well, I've never done any of this. Anal stuff and new does not miss a beat and literally perks up from her shy little self and goes, you don't know what you're missing. It wasn't even a small tear.
It was a big gouging funnel of a tear that just came from the side of my eye. I'm like, I love her so much. She just come out of her shell so much. So we finished the thing and finally the doctor you can see has had enough information.
So, okay, let's get on with, we're going to go this route and they have, and the urologists know about this, but they have a pill that if you get frequent UTIs from anal sex, they do have, they don't want you to be relying on it, but if it's that way and you're going to do a lot of ass bucking, they have an actual after anal sex pill, which is a type of antibiotic. And it's meant to take after anal sex and it literally says on the pill bottle, take one pill after anal intercourse on the bottle. I think you need to take a picture of that. We're going to take a picture of that and cut, you know, do out her things and put that up.
It literally is a pill and it says that, you go get her the bottle, sure. But what made this the best is once again, talk to your physicians because most of those people, a lot of those people have strong religious background convictions, whatever, and you can tell because when a brand new young man, the point looked like maybe 25 year old pharmacist goes to hand you her pills, you better believe what was the quietest word that came out of his mouth when he's giving her instructions. He comes in like, oh, hey, you know, because he doesn't see, they just say, hey, pharmacist consultation. So he just comes in and he grabs the bag and he's like, yeah, I'm a new pharmacist, graduated school man, feeling pretty good, you're fucking great, hey, how you doing?
I'm a pharmacist, I'm really cool. Hey, here's your medication and you're going to take this and take this with food and here, this is after anal intercourse, and he just fucking freezes. And just like all of a sudden, all of his confidence that he learned in fucking medical school, just drained the color and drained out of his fucking face and he just went like, oh, and then he just went, oh, and I'm like, excuse me, I can't hear you, what did you say? And he's so, he got horrible and then the other pharmacist who is training him, she comes over and she's all, don't take this one, take this one, take this one after anal.
And he just kind of crawls away. And I'm looking at it right now, it does say take one capsule by mouth for one dose after anal intercourse. By mouth it says. Make sure you put it in your anus.
Actually, I'm going to put it in my urethra and jerk off and just shoot it straight up. Just fucking just cannonball that right at the booter. This is the stuff that we do. Gotta get your cake right, all types on fat life.
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We're going to talk about stuff. Just kidding, look, just get a hand, get a crush. It's the noise that you do. Okay.
Did you just go pig-knows while you're in pig-knows while you're grunting while masturbating? Sometimes it happens, okay, calm down. Sometimes you can't help it. The pig point comes out.
We should get your piggy. Oh, the piggy's gone. I got it in stereo now. I got it at both sides.
Ooh, both sides. This is a serious show. One hundred nine episodes. Look at how we've grown.
It's sad. Okay, Kathy, what is the topic with this? King Tiggs wrote this one. It's called You Ain't a True Sub, Acline Bullshit.
I can't say it any other way but with that accent because it's just an Acline Bullshit. Isn't he British? I don't know. Oh, okay.
I don't think so, though. Many times I hear of a submissive being told that they are not a true submissive. And as a consequence, they begin to doubt their abilities, doubt who they are, doubt if they should even be here in this kinky world. Submission is not a bucket that every sub gets thrown into.
It's a spectrum which every sub fits into. A master seeking, total power exchange may never be happy with a submissive who requires more protecting guidance and nurturing. Likewise, a daddy seeking a sub may miss nurturing, building up and loving someone who does not want all that and just wants you to shape them into what you want them to be. There is no true submissive.
Cut the crap and look for the submissive dominance suited to what you need. Yeah. It's right. That's the way to do it.
Mm-hmm. This is never going to end. No. This topic is never going to end.
I will say I'm very impressed that locally, I think we're getting a little better about weeding that mentality out because it doesn't come up as much here. I still see a lot online, but I have noticed around threshold that kind of the inclusive attitude and all the multi-diversity of different types of orientations and dynamics and things like that. I think some of that overtly you go here, you go here, but true this is this way, a true master is this. I think some of that's fallen off, but that is obviously not falling off in all communities.
And this is still this whole true submissive, true dominant, true master thing is still alive and well all over. Yeah. So we are going to have to just keep revisiting. And the reason is because you're always going to get a new crop of movies coming in who don't know any better and have nothing as a reference point, but bad books, bad movies.
Sure. Yeah. And so they don't know. And we've said this a hundred times and I'll say it again, we're lucky here in LA to have a big community.
We have classes practically every week and you have a lot of resources here. And then of course there's a preferred podcast. Of course. And it's also a natural thing for people to want binary concepts.
They want clarity. They want to know, am I true? What's the category of that? Am I doing this right?
Am I doing it right? Am I socially acceptable? Am I going to be part of this purved tribe if I do it the right way? And if I don't do it the right way where the fuck do I fit in, I might die as a Kingston.
If that makes sense. And that makes people very dead, but you know, people vulnerable on both ends. Whereas here we have such a good culture that's been built up in the last decade of great acceptance. And a lot of like, this is the way I do it, but that doesn't have to be the way you do it.
As long as everybody agrees and you're not being maimed or put in the hospital, we're good. I think that's because we've put a lot more emphasis on the negotiation. The more we get into negotiation, the more people are communicating, the more people are talking, the more people are finding out that the way through these issues of what is the right submission or dominance in my relationship, it is that opportunity to communicate and find out, oh, because once you start talking with someone, it's a lot easier, it's that hump of not wanting to communicate with someone to where you just want to force them to do what you want or you want to force yourself into a mold and just be accepted and be right. But once you start getting into the dirtiness of communication and negotiation and finding out about the other person, intimacy starts to evolve.
And then all of a sudden it becomes more okay to be out of whatever that preconceived notion in your head is. Right. Well, I thought, I really liked his writing. I love the post.
I thought he wrote about it very eloquently and very clear and to the point. But it's in Monogamy, in popular culture, in movies and books, maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but my question is that you don't see a great deal of diversity in the way Monogamy plays out. It's pretty standard. I mean, you get married, you get a house together, you share your stuff, who's going to keep this many books and who's going to keep that.
And then you pull your finances and maybe you have kids. There may be some things that you're doing differently from other people. But basically, it's pretty standard. It's pretty cut and dried.
But it is so not that way in DS, whether you're doing topping or bottom, or total power exchange. There are so many permutations that it's normal for us as human beings to want the rule book, to want to know what's the right way to do it. And really, in my experience, there are not a lot of areas I've noticed in life where there is so little information about it and where it is most needed. And that's why we're always going to see posts like this and we're always going to talk about it.
And we're going to have to keep every new generation is going to have to know. There's not one way to do this. And there's nothing wrong, and he even talks about it in the post. There's nothing wrong with saying, this is the submissive I'm looking for, or this is the dominant I am looking for.
There's nothing wrong with saying, that's a DS relationship. Is that you are molding to that level of service if that's your thing. So there's nothing wrong with saying to Boogie, which is clearly not the case of me because my girls are completely dynamically challenging and different. But to Boogie, this is what I believe is the true submissive that I want serving me if that is that relationship.
So there's nothing wrong with me training up somebody who is willing to have that power exchange because they want a dominant that is going to train them the way they want to be served. There are a lot of people who are doing those types of relationships. So there's nothing wrong with the idea of me boogie say this what me wants. Wait, that's what you have to count your judgment.
I do. But the caveat to that is I have to say I may not be the right dominant for you, and that's where the rub comes in. Is that I want every woman in this room, whether whatever level to want me and to want exactly what I want and to do what I say. That's part of the territorial primal r-r-r-r.
So it's okay to have that feeling, but it doesn't work. That's just not real. The reality is every person in this room is dynamically different. And I have to accept that what I want from you or you or you may not be what you have the ability or desire to give me.
that's where rejection comes in and that's where people get really they start to say well you can't reject me because you're not doing it right and that's where the manipulation comes in and people who are more experienced start putting pressure on on people who are new to these orientations and i've known lots of dominance and masters new dominance and actors that have been completely mind-fucked by their submissives because they're some is there saying you if you're a dominant you should be doing this and they're confused and they're like shit i'm doing it wrong so it's not just always the dominant predator over the submissive it can be on both sides and actually it's it's the same that's true in vanilla relationships which is why the divorce rates so high is because people come in with preconceived notions that they don't actually negotiate before they sign the contract and say that i do's and then they get into it and they're like well you're not meeting my expectations that means you're failing that means you're a shitty shit shit whatever shitty shitty shit shit right well spoken well but but the truth is no they're human being you're human being and you're not communicating so it's I like it so in other words take some time and be okay whatever ends you are on be okay with who you are ultimately this post I felt was about giving the individual the power to be their own individual to discover them themselves at a level that makes them happy that challenges them in the way they want to grow and if somebody is trying to tell you that you're doing it wrong it just means you're doing it wrong for them it doesn't mean you're doing it wrong for everyone and you keep looking and you find people that you're more compatible with that have a better understanding of what you need and then go for that relationship and leave the fucking idiots who try to put you in a box to go fuck themselves politely yes kill him get on and I'll stab him in the fucking throat and light him on fire you can find someone with you especially if you like my fire hey you know that you're right just keep trying just like Anthony said last week that the people who come into this community and think that after two or three parties are gonna find exactly what they want just keep thinking just you gotta be in for the long yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm even Laurie has something to say yes Kathy thank you very much so we're talking about this in the chat and we're wondering if there's a belt level like a martial arts for for being true so or dumb and how you go about this that'd be funny yes I have a little bit of a little belton summery yes apparently little belts are rainbow colored a little bit of rain but they are they just have a little den line but anybody does not know you know Laurie is Google it or go on YouTube and listen watch and you will understand why I'm so creeped out he sounds exactly like him our voice that's why I'm doing oh god you know what because I am a big leader can you Peter can you talk to Kathy a little dirty maybe was just a story I think your hair is beautiful tonight yes I do you know how I like to hurt people can I like to do some how you don't people I like to see them hurt so and hit that gap between you know that's a freaking gap between us to the right so Joe get a mic gaps in to get a mic Joe I am here all right Joe identify yourself I am me he is Joe he is a super question that is very good I'm glad your identity is me and not some preconceived bucket notion you listen to the topic but so I just wanted to bring Joe up Joe's pervert podcast listener for a long time has been with us a long time is a great threshold member he's here a lot and he does amazing amazing leather work makes all his own toys I was talking to him today he actually makes like all of his play partners that he has you make their own toys everyone has their own colors own cups own floggers and their own individual colors oh sweet and you can reach Joe and we're gonna get to that but no and and so you know Joe knows in Zua that we you know have to cover you know bunny and mues faces you know for whatever because they're so seated with me and I'm a piece of yours so and I was talking Joe back over to make this and a you know bunny mat I don't even know how exactly it came up it's just just came up and he's like I make leather masks you want me to make a bunny mask for you know for your girl and I'm like and I don't like taking gifts you know I get fucking creeped out of shit but I can just see bunny literally stabbing me in the back with a pencil until I say yes yes Joe that would be amazing but no I thought it was gonna be like a thing where maybe we talk about it and whatever and he's yesterday he just comes up he's all hey I mean three masks he made a bunny a leather bunny now look at that they're over there go to the computer tree bark tree bark I wish I was out of the girls look at that it's a leather mask with bunny ears on it that is adorable and then he made that's like and it's like thick leather and it smells all leathery and then kitty man black leather kitty mask and then he made me like a kind of like uber super superhero kind of yeah so I was just it was just really nice he's like I don't want anything you know whatever so you just do this as a hobby yeah right now it's not a hobby yeah you know are you gonna be a carnal carnival selling you have one of my donations there nice is gonna be in the whole he makes really cool shit just as a hobbyist it's and it's just like I gotta say those are the coolest fucking leather mask I've ever seen I like giving up to people who I know I appreciate it you know thank you thank you very much so now if people want to see your stuff you're on that life right yes I am I am underscore gray g r e y g r e y and that's on fadlife and so if they want to look at your pictures of your things on I and if they want to have you do something you'll hook up more than available we want to plug you thank you so much we're gonna use the fuck out of those things cool I sent pictures to the girls of those and they just squid and speed man that's what I'm after yeah it was it was definitely so so we're gonna use those thank you so much thank you so much have a seat we're gonna get into the next oh take a fetish we let yeah all right give tree bark tree bark wait come here hand me the amenable amenable because you know what I'm in an any flirty contact with rebark well no no she wants to spin the wheel of cake come here know you're picking something else come over go under here no no no no no no you're so bossy I just well oh she's on her hands and knees even stay down there wait wait just pick I just I need to put my hand on her waist and just pick this is one of those things for finish we let you don't even know what that is okay what does it say play for fetish we let thank you very much we'll be talking about play next week then so this is our fetish really notice I'm like totally oh you know they're about that you just want to hold and just oh my God she's sorry okay I'm gonna say something yeah I'm gonna ask he's crawling I'm pleased we're doing pet play next week because for the first time in a while we're having a pet play taster booth at carnal carnival yeah really that is we are I can't wait to see that tastes like me can you lift up her shirt just bend her over under the table just put you down oh it's nice you just rub it just rub her ass oh my God she's on her phone while she's right there that Jesus Christ I don't give a shit millennial's point if we were playing if we were playing I would take the phone but no it looks gorgeous so under here there's gonna be a taster booth at carnival there'll be many taster booths and but we're having a pet play one for the first time in like three years and so you can so you can train an animal or be trained as an animal yes you can that's always gonna be fun that's gonna get crazy that's our crazy that's gonna get crazy all right so oh okay so fetish and roulette next week I'm gonna we're gonna talk about pet play so we're gonna I I you know you got try new things once they are dead you can talk shit about them it's really beloved many people have died I have no idea how it's gonna go but it's gonna probably really lame what's this news idea I think this was music yes I blame you so this is perverted epitaphs where we get to just write shitty tombstones about the people in the room and you the perverted podcast listeners can start sending in your epitaphs maybe what's about us so it's a chance it's a chance to really say things that you might not say when they're alive because they're dead fucking what are they gonna do fucking be a bitch yeah but you're in the room yeah you're in the room but you're dead no no you're not no that's what makes it so funny well that's what I'm saying oh I thought you're talking about the few awkward oh oh yeah yeah oh now awkward yeah I'm still leaving about it okay so so I pick some people so you try to make it you know something about them his lollipops always smelled like cock hunger see because hunger always have a pocket full of lollipops it always it's true you always have lollipops that's his jam girls run up to him all they know he's got a score lollipops in his pocket so when he dies that's that's how we're that's how I'm gonna remember you hunger he's just staring me down yeah oh no you're gonna I didn't say you masturbate I'm only amused because now I don't feel so bad about my epitaph that I wrote all right what else she took the top bun and had a great bum you because she's top bun she always eats the best of everything in the lead she's the shitty end of the bread that is I don't know that side of you that's top bun you was top bun all right I got you guys have any mmm okay go carry here lies count boogie never got an erection without assistance so he's always looking for assistance apply within at perverted podcast but you know that's a very long tombstone hey I saw some that's some writing on that's some chiseling right there it's just what accommodates the size of your epic penis and it's lack of of hardness assistance thank you Kathy do you have one I only have one it's about you because I ran as of course it is I think you're gonna like it okay when preaching for Jesus he lived just to serve when no longer a theist he died like a perv oh I was a good guy yeah boogie I'm good you have an epitaph somebody in the room I do I was put on the spot so I didn't have much time to smoke with one but but of course I did my best for the show thank you and so here we go here lies boogie died falling on the mop finally took it up the ass that's that's gonna leave a mark that is not the way I want to die you would leave mark now you oh yeah you know what I bet uh ugher is not the first person who was wished that mob to go up my foot I know I have often Kerry do another one I have one for Kathy ready Kathy she donated her body to science hoping they could figure out the actual what the fuck oh my god I know I do it that means it's very good so did you say you had one no no anyone else all right I'm gonna try remember Anthony from last week yeah Anthony last week jacking off in our tea always filled him with glee see because Anthony every week every time comes apart he brings a two gallon jug of green tea that he brewed himself at home and when we didn't know Anthony very well I always told the girls well you know he's probably jerking off in it and now that I know him really well you know he's probably still jerking off in it but it's good tea for you have another one I do this we'll do a couple more than route Lois she was so hot to drop she melted her own hard drive and got shipped to Southeast Asia to be part of that got a fitting fate for Lois I will read one more oh I had one for Joe I didn't have any time his crafting of leather brings perverts together brought four words together that was bad and but to end before we go into the next her nihilist gloom depressed every room I knew that was coming I know we're gonna miss you I really should do a different jingle I like that one so much I'm a teenager again when I hear that all right so kinky world news we have a story from New Jersey on May 25th New Jersey Sheriff's Officer Kristen Hyman that's an unfortunate I get it I cherry nickname cherry right now what it is what it is it was suspended without pay by the Hudson County Sheriff's Office six days before she was scheduled to graduate from the police Academy because she failed to disclose her past in adult entertainment and saw clients privately for money working under the moniker Domina Nix a judge has reinstated her and allowed her to graduate from the Academy she was scheduled to attend a disciplinary hearing on June 27th I've yet to hear what happened but yeah apparently the Sheriff's office said it was conduct unbecoming a public employee okay now we dug into this a little bit so Kaly and I knew that this was gonna be a touchy subject yes because on the surface if you're a pervert god damn it this is an atrocity towards your free speech your free rights your consensual rights to be as you are she was doing nothing illegal she was a pro-dom she wasn't I guess she wasn't you know a prostitute so on the surface you're gonna say well god damn it this is another instance that we have to work harder to make it acceptable for people to be able to have their kinky lives in private and not have it effect or be an indication that they're gonna be poor at their job performance and and here's where it starts to get tricky because this is literally what the sheriff's office said they said in particular one of the county sheriff's concurred with a disciplinary action against her in order to protect the integrity of the department and to prevent her from taking an oath of office quote for which she is not entitled and he went on to say that it has resulted in the Hudson County Sheriff's Office being the subject of inquiry and ridicule among law enforcement I think that's where they fuck up number one that's their fuck up number one none of that is gonna prevent her from doing her job right and if you're worried about ridicule you got a lot of other stuff that's gonna be a lot of ridicule yeah so that's that just makes absolutely so initially when I read this I was pissed off thinking who the fuck do they think they are saying she is not entitled to take an oath for office because she used to be a dominatrix but then and then we dug a little more and it's not quite as black and white I'm not saying that there's it's just not as kind of dry as you would think it sure is and there is there's pretty graphic pictures there are there it's damning evidence you know because what they did is they compiled a bunch of screenshots from all of these videos so she actually was a public video dominatrix and actually put out her face she was paid for the video she didn't receive any money for from continued sale of the videos but she was paid for them but she said you know I was never naked in them I never performed sexual acts that was basically what types of acts did she perform in these well the screenshots that she that they got was that showed her cradling an unknown males head with his eyes closed who was possibly passed out she was basically putting some dude in a chokehold okay she was something that's illegal because cops killed a lot of people exactly a little trickery to the public to see that and also in the videos it says I'm in a scene using items such as whips and kicking the groin area to inflict pain upon the recipient in most cases the recipient is naked and or bound and bounds like you bind the suspects and then perhaps police brutality is now the hottest craze of protest in our country justifiably so in many cases my point is you put that out there we are in a heightened environment to where the majority of our country is enraged maybe not the majority but a good portion of our country is enraged over police brutality and images depicting police brutality and you now have this person that is going to be entering the field showing these pictures that we know as kinksters are consensual in and you know erotic and these are people that enjoy this but it appears to be brutal it appears to be something and so I can absolutely as much as I hate to admit it as a kinkster as a marketing a business or somebody who is socially aware you can't expect something like this to not cause a shitstorm and is it worth to hire someone you're not talking about someone who's been on the job for 30 years and they know they're a pillar of the community and so this is somebody who is new and you are a boss and they didn't approach it this way right they didn't approach it the the images that might link towards police brutality or that this person who is sadistic who is showing that they are sadistic might lean towards police brutality but it's just putting off a negative image that the public is then going to create a shitstorm that now is a distraction from police work right to have to deal with and clean up and educate when they themselves aren't even educated by the way they reacted so it's yeah and here's where it starts to get a little bit even more like because through her lawyers and what she said in court for the preliminary hearings what they said is basically that she's she's embarrassed by the videos and she calls them stupid stuff I did when I was a kid she says that the violent acts portrayed in some of the videos were staged and that her role was that of an actress but her case starts to fall apart because she says that she ended her activities five years ago but her Twitter account was active as early as March of 2016 where she said want to see more of pictures hashtag spoiling and we'll see what happens hashtag pay pig hashtag Finn's say yes Finn's play one is she's a financial dog if you don't know what that is if you're listening you know what that is it's some guys or women get off on most of us get off on being made to spend their money for their Dom without anything in return yeah maybe I'll show you a picture of my foot or something like that we're in the nine hundred dollar fucking shoes yeah and she goes in one of the videos she's heard to say what you'll see in this video is not a sketch it's not a pre-planned film and certainly not something I did for you if anyone else it was for me as a sadist it was 100% for my own sexual gratification so kind of damning evidence against her so here's one in contrary messages because she didn't say anything like she totally minimized her own role in her past she didn't say yeah that's what I did and it's completely separate from police work right she didn't say that she was acting yeah exactly no you have to own your shit before anyone's gonna go oh so you understand that that's that's that this is this right but as long as you're minimizing you're blurring the lines exactly and the and the sheriff's apartment did the same thing I would love to say that this is cut and dried they have no right infringing on another person's right to do whatever they want right it would be so easy but like you said boogie it's not that easy right and but however if the sheriff's department from the beginning head instead said something like look we understand that this that there's actually nothing wrong with this but before we in state this woman into our police account out of the police kind of into active duty we want to center for some psychiatric evaluation sure that what that doesn't happen what the DSM 5 says that it can actually turn into a parafilia is it a parafilia or is it just acting we want to know for sure we want to cover our basis to keep the public safe so we're gonna do this we're gonna do our due diligence they're not gonna do what they made a value judgment say they said that they don't want to be embarrassed because frankly in my opinion if they say that about one of their recruits they're gonna have to open the door to psychic it would be great that where's the money for it right so it's it's nothing it's this is not something that you would imagine that we have to report guess we're jumping down and say it's whatever she wants because you know what the bottom line is she's a sadist and this the cops are not supposed to be sadist and what if she does have a feeling and what you know you don't so I can't argue with the fact that you have put yourself out there as a sadist you put your face out there you have shown the public that this is who you are you really can you be surprised that people would reject that right this one go ahead a lot of police work is PR sure like PR is actually one of the biggest things the police department has to concern it's really not good at it but this is one of those things where if they let her on the force now it's a big question yeah it's like okay what else are they allowing yeah we already have a vision so now we have more reason to suspect not us because we're in the know that it could have been consensual we don't actually know that was concerned we don't know but we know that it could have been we don't know if she was part of a community and teaches about consent whatever everything that she's talked about right sounds just straight out of the book online financial dominant sure you know that she doesn't you know you don't know but the re you know but the general public they don't know and they deserve to know because there's they're the ones that are hopefully being protected by the police it's a tough one it's a tough one but here's another tip for your kids future future you think about future you don't put your face or identifying marks anywhere online if you have anything to lose or you think you might want to do something someday that more than you or your immediate sphere of friends is going to be involved in if you want to go into politics you have people that are not going to understand and you can't expect them to understand until we teach them how to understand you can't throw things in people's face that they're not ready for and expect them to wrap their arms around you so you have to think of your future if you are new if you whatever age you are it doesn't matter there is a future and these pictures will not go away and your quotes will not go away and your twitters will not go away and everything will be able to be made into a nice neat little case that can criminalize you or penalize you in your future goals so right I can be careful and it also tells me that those of us who are out need to kind of in a way really talk about talk about in the safe saying consent absolutely like yeah this is what I do for fun with people who agree to do it who know that what they're getting into and not not constantly pretending to be a huge bad ass right because that doesn't help anybody else understand that there's consent yeah it's a big there should have been a class at the end of 50 Shades of Grey just a 10 minute video during the credits hey this was a fantasy and it was a little dysfunctional by the way here's some shit we've been great I'm not gonna happen but you know that burns to do BDSM that's why we do this show goddamn it yeah we lifted to the next level you know how we listen to the next level how you want to know sexual sexual sexual enthusiasm and to delete our listeners with your feature orgasm always just makes me feel so funky how you doing Kathy between you and Peter Laurie over there I'm freaking out hey Peter anything else going on the chat room we're actually talking about why pussy pies wouldn't work like pussy cookies did Peter Lord say pussy pie yes I did it could pie crust because pie crust you the butter would not re-maintained the right consistency as needed for pie the only way we figured you could do it is to do like a graham cracker or or your type crust where you put those in first before putting the butter in fair enough what is going on in the bedroom Peter yeah yeah I think we talk about it and Peter can I have you give a message younger sure boogie thank you and this I'm giving to anger to Peter to all of our perverted podcast listeners out there I am I'm sorry we have been struggling with this tiny chat thing and trying to make this work we really need to up the game and if you at home have chat rooms that are more functional that give a little bit more power to the moderator so hunger can run things better but we really do have to kind of get on this and put our heads together and fix this people are just not getting into the chat actually academic I have been I've been testing things tonight while we're in chat as well okay so maybe we got some answers coming in so we're working okay we're not sure how it works on mobile devices though okay that's that's our current issue well thank you very much and please tell our we do appreciate all the effort you guys are putting in and if we can keep a jerk oh Peter I love how is his personality don't like each other I feel I relate more to Peter under now than ever before so we have a featured orgasm here that we're gonna wrap up this fucking show with and I think just make sure that you listen to the end this is Akatan right yeah this is a this is a preferred podcast is she in the chat room you say we were about to play her featured orgasm that she sent in let us just sit back for about a minute and 20 seconds and listen to the golden tones of Akatan and boogie that is our show thank you the rest of providing the pervert to play ground for a record and if you are in the Los Angeles or surrounding area visit threshold or every doubt about joining their kinky family thank you to everyone in the love lab tonight Peter Laurie and everyone in the chat room I appreciate it to our spot spot today and that's happening tonight to carry for guest hosting to join his leather masks to you and tree bark and a very special thank you to Scott for donating to the perverted podcast if you have questions comments or ideas please email us at perverted podcast at jimmy.com and visit perverted podcast.com and if for some reason you had to skip your Starbucks this morning put that money to go to use and hit that patreon.com forward slash perverted podcast but for that podcast and finally we will see you next week for show 110 our wonderful show and this song that we're gonna put you out with is a very very fun song that is based on a true story this song is off the I don't know one of those fucking albums I did and it's called porn star and we will see you guys next week and great I've stumbled onto something and I'm not sure what it is thing it might be good it's been so very long since I stared down the protoplist but I just kissed a porn star she drove me around town inside her rental car God tell me I'm not dreaming wake me up tasted like shit but I was enamored by the conversation so I didn't care not one little bit we hit it off pretty cool now I don't believe in chemistry cuz I never got that far in school but I just kissed a porn star around town inside her rental car God tell me I'm not dreaming the girl he tests by getting along with their 18 pound cat the lights went out in the room and I heard a boy say don't be afraid cuz Chloe will make it all bitter soon yeah I just kissed a porn star God tell me