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He's telling her to work. Morning, good afternoon. Good evening. You listening to the old talk, podcast hosted by Peter Otis joining me tonight is Roscoe Lettis.
Thought we've got to go home with stuff tonight. Poor little thought he could play in another 35 soccer comp at the age of 40 plants. You should have said he thought he could play soccer. That's it.
And he's Bruce. We've got to fill it. We've got to fill it. We've got to fill it.
We've got to fill it. This is calling one of the straightest leading card journalists. He's only laughing. He's only laughing.
Technically from Caravirus, mate. Welcome. Hello, mate. Thank you.
You said leading I didn't. Oh, but he's the nice comp. He's been in the race down the street. That's it.
We've got to go to the rear wheel drive, V6, 3.5, V6, with a manual. So it's like an Orient, but a much cooler, faster Orient that's rear wheel drive. He just bought that cow. It's a good idea.
Yeah, JDM. It's the only one in Australia that he's aware of. Only got 100,000. I think he said 2013.
It's not like a 2013. No no no. No no. 2013.
And I think he said it's the only one that he's aware of in Australia. There's only 100 of them globally that they built. And I used that as an example. That the last thing we need at Caravirus, honestly, is to own new cars because they sit in the garage and they need to get driven.
We've got old cars, but we go and buy cars and we're into cars. For me, how it started, I guess, is my father. Like most of us, my dad was born in Italy, he came to Australia in 1960. He was like any young kid that came here.
He came from a country where he can't afford a car. He comes to a country where people can't afford a car. And it's a thing of freedom and you can come do what you want. You can travel and all those things.
His love of cars started from that. Him and my uncles, his two brothers, they all had various trades. So they did things like tool making, film machine, and stuff like that. So they would work on their own cars.
And that's kind of where I started. My first car, we took it into my dad's chair, put it on a horse. And did a full service on it before I drove it out of the garage. Before he did it, so it's that passion of a tag car?
Yeah, obviously. All the kids would have gone. No, no, no. My mum used to drop us off to school in the next WGT Falcon.
I can't. So six months ago. Yeah, yeah. So mum was a bit of a lead foot too.
And you know, mum came from the country. Her dad was a farmer. And they went into cars as well. But my dad's love of cars was all cars.
You know, his first car when he got his license was an MGA in verbal. He rebuilt the whole thing. My mum stitched up the interior and stuff. He built a new interior for it.
But then my dad had all the money. He had British cars. He had French cars, which he hated and still hated. He's, you know, then his passion is always good.
Well, he should not be shit. Yeah, they're pretty shit. And you know, his passion, I suppose, was Italian cars. But even now, at the age of 72, my dad can look at some silly little Japanese car from the 70s that I say how cool is that?
He goes, yeah, he just loves cars. He loves students cars. He was a brancin' lot. He was a brancin' lot.
He was a brancin' lot. And the interesting thing with him, which I've taken on board as well, his daily driver, the car that he always drove day to day to work or whatever he did, was always a boring car. You know, it was always a Toyota RAV4 or a... But he's weak in...
Yeah, he always had... He always had interesting things in the garage, but his daily driver was always something as new as he could afford. And reliable. Yeah, absolutely.
So what kind of duo you will up in that shit? Oh, then my first car, the first 64 or 8-hole. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and at the time that I got it in 1993, it was a 30-year-old car already.
So it was not a car. Through the tree? Yeah, mine was a 3-speed manual, but mine was quite rare in that it was a Premier, but it was ordered, so the Premier's were all automatic standard because that was the same. Modified from the fact I was saying.
And I thought it was B, yes, but I thought it was the guy told me, I thought, that's going to be the biggest one. He sounds pretty bad. So I got in contact with Holden and did all the research, and it was factory orders, man. Wow.
That's my first car. I had that for probably... I don't reckon I had that car. I was in university.
No, mine was white. It should have been a colour called Portsey Blue, which was actually more green than blue. And it had a white roof, so it was two times. And the Premier's had metallic paint, not flat colour.
So, yeah, in leather, interior and stuff, but it had been painted all white. So basically... Through the parents. Yeah, that love the oils run through the mud.
And then basically, from there, did you do an engineering degree? I did the trend, because you do something like that. Yeah, it's really interesting. I said to someone the other day, it's funny when you get older, you sit down and think about what you would have done at university.
Or TAFE, or whatever. Yeah, I've got mates who are... You just started the girl. If I thought that...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I would have been a solicitor, not a journalist. No, but I've got mates who are solicitors. I've got mates who are journalists.
I've got mates who are psychologists. And they all even mates who did engineering. And they all say, what I'm into now, I wasn't into then. I did journalism degree.
That's what I actually did. So for me, ideally at 18 starting university, I would have said to you, it would have been sport or cars, obviously. But to get a job in motoring journalism Australia is ridiculously difficult. So I didn't just assume that was going to happen.
It's more likely you're going to drive in sports journalism. So what did you do? I started uni 1994. 94.
So back then, the 90s, you still haven't got any car magazines. Yep. You had jimodas and vehicles. And then you've got...
You drive a drive around? Drive a drive around as a segment in the newspaper. Yeah, but it was a bit... I worked on...
I worked on... I was about to make things in the newspaper background. I tried to go to do it. Yeah, I couldn't do it.
So I was like, oh, it's not actually pretty good. So I ended up on... I remember driving, you worked a million double plates for it. That's right.
You just had that monster of a... The classifier threw it back in. None of the plates were all quirky stuff. But the articles were...
You struggled to get someone that actually talked about loving cars and writing about them. I'm sure that's because the bulletins not publishing this way. Can you write a card with special reports? Yeah.
And you can tell the difference between you and see when they write that and moving to the motor and rules when I look on those. Same thing. Yeah, there's a super passionate and then some will like... Yeah, just get the job done.
I have a personal opinion that you will be more passionate about cars if you understand them. In the way that... I'll say to other journalists from competitive outlets. I'll say to them, you know, they'll ask me my opinion on something if I see them in the event.
And I'll say, well, I read that you could have sized the suspension on a particular car. And I'll say to them, I'm almost positive that you don't even understand what it is that you criticise it. Unless you've stood under a car under a hoist and pulled suspension apart. You can't look at a diagram and criticise something that specific without truly understanding what it is.
It's like walking into a workshop and watching a mechanic rebuild the top end of a motor and go make a doing that wrong. If you don't know what you're doing and you haven't done it, you can't really criticise it. So I think that plays into that. I'll always be grateful that I started working on restoring, maintaining cars with my dad before I ever got the job that I got.
Because that came much later. I'm grateful that I started where I did because I think it gives you a better understanding. So we're doing this connect fashion. He was a 20-hour car.
He wasn't a 20-hour car. He was a big, big, big, big, big. No, I've got a friend of mine. Yeah, I've got a mate.
To be honest, I've always given up on finding a job. So I think when I first started in journalism, I'm 45. Now, it was 20 years ago when I started my first job in motoring. And when was that?
That was an all-new song magazine. So there was all-new song. That's true. That's true.
My heart. I was all-new song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And expressed publications, so all-new, all-new, all-new stuff.
Some guys that had worked at Hot Fours had broken away and started up all-new. They were the group of Indonesian guys who had a car club. The cabin boys were right. Yeah, they were hanging around.
And they threw all-watch collectors and... Yeah, they were driving out of the ambulance. That moved on a bit. They got deep pockets.
And they needed a journal, basically, on the magazine. I think the first story I wrote for them was issue five of the magazine. So it was pretty new. And they went on to take on Hot Fours.
But that came much later. And I had almost given up on getting a job. Because really now, I mean, if you stop now, and it's probably, there might be 20 or 30% less jobs now, I guess, because things have contracted a bit. But there's probably 30 jobs in Australia, and they're in a lot of ideas.
If they're up, I guess. So you've got to be lucky at the times, right? Because I didn't know anyone in that industry. My parents were blue collar people.
They didn't have contacts in that industry. I didn't know anyone that worked in that industry. I had no idea. So when I finished uni, I did a whole bunch of stuff while I was working in coffee shops.
I did work at Chunk10 in the newsroom there for basically next to nothing. Free Land Stry. Just send my original name. Just send my original name.
Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. It's funny now, just as one example, I do a segment on Monday on 2JV with Deborah Knight, who hosts the show. When I was working at Chunk10, 25 years ago, whatever it was, Deb was the reporter in Los Angeles.
She was in the US, right? So when I used to do, I worked in the Chief of Staffs desk, which is basically like where they organise the rundown for what's going to be on the news. So if I was doing the late news, I would ring Deb in LA and line her up and get a ready, make sure the camera was ready and all that stuff. And here you are 20 years later on her radio show.
And she didn't remember you. No idea. Absolutely not. That was you.
She didn't remember you. I was. Yeah. Can we just go back, because they're fond memories for me.
That was a serious, I mean, I got into cars. I always loved cars from a, sort of, wasn't always in a love of cars. It was sort of halfway through school. Everyone started at the age of 14, 15.
Oh, it's car. We're doing it up. We're doing whatever. But this is a sweet from the old era.
Yeah. And it was just for me, it was so, I suppose it was part of my life, because it was, you know, at uni. It was all about modifying. I think it's probably why I'm still modifying cars.
But it was just, I remember just going, I remember going, the first one that I saw on the new board, the camera, the whole thing. Yeah. It was so for me, it was so, um, um, it was a high up. It was a high up.
It was the way that we were doing, you know, now everything's about leavens on the internet. Someone does 20 minutes later. It's on top of it. Just one perfect example of that.
There was a guy called, uh, Jerry Wang, I think his name was, and he had a panel business in Canberra. And there was a bunch of them that were doing real high in Japanese stuff, S15s, Scotland lines, that sort of stuff. From memory, a young guy turned up at one of the what-asalons in Sydney with an amazing S15 that wasn't overly modified. And when he went to get out of it, we directed him into his parking spot.
He went to get out of it, and he lifted up, and he lifted up, scisadores like Lambo doors. And we all stood there, and we'd never seen it. We'd seen pictures of him from the hand and stuff. And later on, when we spoke to Jerry Racing, it was Jerry's business.
When we saw that Jerry Racing sticker, so we found Jerry later on that night at 11 o'clock on the Friday night, we were sitting up. We said to Jerry, what the hell's it go with these scisadores? And he had spent months building these doors. Because he's been buying it.
That was just one example that's popped into my head there. All the guy, the guy, what was his name? The guy that had Mr. C.RX in Colorado building.
And then Osmo-Roz all building body kits. There's nothing out there. We're going to build them for a couple of years. I think, you know, fish tanks in the boot, all that stuff.
You know, you just don't. I don't know, all you just just put them in the oasis bin. We'll sit down and hang it out with Joe and all the guys helping him install the scariest. It was a different time, right?
And it's all pre-inter stuff. You had to know someone that you wanted someone to get something. And it wasn't cheap. No, it wasn't cheap.
These guys were spending a lot of money. And I think what the difference with Oasis along was, and one of the things we always tried to do, was we actually, and you'd probably remember this if you went to any of the events, but we made the owners of the Star of the show. All of them. Yeah, as opposed to the cars just being the star of the owners as well.
And sort of promoting them for the effort they were putting in. So, the things we did, it's funny, it just came about by accident, about sort of all weeks ago I was on a podcast with a guy called Owen Webb, who I believe Owen now works for House of Color specifically as an ambassador for them, the paint company. But Owen had a car that had won a bunch of awards at Simon Act's and In Street and Machine Magazine, an ex-wife, I don't know, an ex-W but we got in touch with Owen. He was a judge at Simon Act's.
We got in touch with Owen. And we said we want to put you on the auto salon judging team. Because what we want to do is we want to help these guys lift the level of the way they were building cars. And at that time, and it's still happening now in certain areas of the aftermarket Australia, but at that time, the cars were not in touchable.
And at that time, the cars that were being built in Australia were as good as anywhere in the world. And I would go to shows overseas, I would go to Tokyo or someone, I would go to Seema in the United States. And our cars were as good as any of the best cars built around the world. Because what these guys were doing, they probably didn't even realise they were doing it, but they were each pushing the other in touchable.
So, Bill better in bad habits? Well, you said you were watering the other of the cars. It's always like a piece of art. It's always the paintwork on these things, the interior, the white.
I remember seeing double-rexis with that white. I just threw another seat. I think it was a two or three day event. You would get there in the morning and believe it might not.
Then you would get there again the next morning and the morning the man is going to eat. He was just so good. He was just so good. But the 90s was that, again, pre-internet, the media, the magazines, they were all out.
You had a niche for an inch. They were popular magazines. One of them was Beatle. The first one was along.
It was a 60-day event. And a friend of mine from him, he was friends with all the cat boys. He said, you got your wheels coming. You beat them.
And they were 16 and couldn't get time. And people, we got time for them. We drove this thing in with Slam Village. It was a little hot, right?
On these modern sparkos and steaming shoes. I don't know if you remember the car. Everyone was freaking out. They are massive.
I can't believe you got 16. One in steady. Yeah. I don't know if 13 stops are going.
This is insane. Like you're crazy. This guy rather than a lancer. He had 17 in 20s.
I was like, fuck you. I can just trust you. I'm out. I just got.
I remember the first time we saw a cartoon after 20s. Who was the guy from New Zealand that had the Lexus Coops? He put 20 in 20. I can't remember his name.
He had this 20s and he was like, this whole VHS video of him installing the wheels. I can't remember his name. VHS. VHS.
We moved. The guys moved. There was a New Zealand show series. There was an Indonesian show series.
That was all for a country. And one of the guys from Queen Street Smash repairs, the year that they won the whole thing overall with that crazy BMW drag car they got. The people got it over there. Or I saw him ship that car to New Zealand and ship it to Indonesia.
To go on. Yeah. It was a massive deal. And I remember for me at 25, 2026 having almost given up on getting a job.
To get that job. Rock started working with those guys. Yeah. It was amazing.
Did it feel like, not that you, I mean, you're still young and a genie, but did it feel like a job? Yeah, it didn't. No. It didn't feel like a job at all.
You know, we were, because we were operating on the smell of an oily rag in terms of budgetary waste compared to the competition. You know, we'd be in there for, on deadline, one month, at the end of the month, we'd do 24 hours straight. You know, I'd leave the office at 70 in the morning and go to the printer with the CD and so use the magazine. And then have to come back and now later to check the proofs and stuff like that.
You know, we, yeah, we worked our back sides off as a small team, but it didn't feel like work. And in hindsight, looking back at it now, it didn't feel like work. No, absolutely not. I mean, you know, the competitors being hot for, was it hot for us?
Fast forward, as far as I was. Yeah. Yeah. The Commodore man, I mean, stream machine was like the key.
Well, it's both working on a modern world. Stream machine is part of it, but they were very unifying. Yeah, no, most of them. They were just, I can't remember the, you know, the company's in the stuff.
So passionate. You just looked at him every day and went, he's not working. You could see the love in the magazine. You said that kind of show is, did you go to Japan?
Have you better Japan? Yeah, that's a bit of an ultimate moment. You've climbed under the sea now a bunch of the workshops. Yeah.
Is that a spin? Yeah, it's crazy. I said to someone the other day, if there are only two car shows in the world that I could be able to, again, Seema would be one of them in Las Vegas. And to try to choose between Goodwood in the UK, obviously, or the Yokohama, the Mujanae show that's in Yokohama in Japan, it'd be very hard to choose between those two.
The level of craftsmanship that the Japanese builders have and attention to detail that is very, very hard to replicate elsewhere. Well, I think that, you know, America and Europe can restore a car in amazing detail and do as good a job as anyone, but the Japanese have a way of house-seize things that, and seeing that, it still blows me away now when you see it. But seeing that in the 90s, going to workshops like Top Secret and HKS and really, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To see what they were doing and how they were doing it, it is mind-blowing.
But just to see where from there, you said that the Japanese, the craftsmanship and the passion, how the big factories like Toyota and Yesen in Honda, how they lost the plot? How come they're not making those cars? Well, those campuses. Yeah, they're still, they're attention to the...
Yeah, Honda's the best example of it. They suffered really badly after the GFC. And what we're seeing now from them is the result of the fact that they couldn't put money into R&D in 2008 and 2009. They still, all the Mac and Japanese manufacturers, to be honest with you, still build an incredibly durable and high quality product.
You know, if I can only buy one car to last me the rest of my life, it would be a Toyota. Yeah, 100%. Because it's just built like it's car out of stone. It might not be better than other cars in certain ways, but it's just durable and reliable.
I think what this question leads to is where we're headed in a mowing sense. And I think that the reason they're not building those inspiring cars that we remember is because the environment is not there for them to do it. I really don't think it is. I think while you've got governments chasing emissions regulations and chasing tailpipe emissions in a number and a CO2 number and all of that stuff, it just doesn't lend itself to interesting performance cars.
It just doesn't. And to be able to view it away from that, if you use them as an example for a long time, and then we saw the Super Carman in GRR and all that stuff. But the other thing as well is that they were still building these cars to a degree. We just weren't getting them in Australia.
If you use Justin's Mark X that I told you about, that's a 2013 car. We've never got it in Australia. So while we're getting bloody front-wheel drive-or-ins, in Japan, they're getting real-wheel drive- manual performance cars. Yeah, are we the last end of the world?
Are we becoming the last end of the world when it comes to it? Look, I'd say two degree, I think we already were the last end of the world, in that sense. This will offend anyone listening who loves Australian cars, right? But we had this conversation in the Office today finally now.
If you really weigh Australian cars up against cars from around the world, our cars worshiped and have been shipped for a very long time. It could be not wrong. It could have VP Commodore next to any other car that's built in 1988, 8990. And the Commodore's held together with bloody Tech screws.
It's awful. It's not up to standard at all. The last products that we built, so the VF2 Commodore and so it was a great car. Last ones were pretty good cars.
The Toyota Camry and the Building were pretty good cars. Look, the bus was awesome. Yeah, but they were not high quality cars to begin with. And people, bitch and moan a lot about the fact we don't build cars anymore.
I think the reality is Australian weren't buying them. We weren't buying them. We just weren't buying them. The Commodore was up there at the end, but only 25% or 30% were the rest of the world.
So that is a reality, regardless of whether the government pumps more money in or not. But I think we are the accent of the world. We get very poor fuel quality. I think we're 88 or 89th in terms of fuel quality, globally.
So we get rough fuel. Really bad fuel. And then you get Volkswagen. That's right.
And then you get Volkswagen. You get Volkswagen saying we can't bring that car here. That one's got a petite. We've got warranty points on that stuff, right?
So where we're going to have a problem, I think, is as all the manufacturers around the world start to move to hybrid and then electric, full electric. We may end up getting all of the last generations of diesels and petrol cars and stuff like that because you won't be able to sell them in other markets around the world. So if the United Kingdom, for example, says by 2030 you cannot sell a new internal combustion car in the United Kingdom. If there's an English manufacturer that's got 30,000 steel, a half-wheel ride-end drive car.
I might check that out. I'm going to get to that. But the other thing I'm going to say, do you reckon us being a ride-end drive is also a problem? If we were left-hand drive, if Crystal Ball's driving us.
No, I think would America not be a ship on us? Yeah, American cars are pretty average. I mean, I love American cars, but they're pretty average in a global sense. So yeah, we might get half-baked US trucks and cars.
It's interesting. I think that the right-hand drive, our saving grace is Japan, right-hand drive, India, right-hand drive, Thailand where they do a lot of the dual caps, you know, South Africa and the United Kingdom to a lesser extent. But while either India and Japan, you know, it is a normal population, obviously, Japan's 160-minute per-blo-boy. So while they're right-hand drive, I don't think we're suffering dramatically.
What being left-hand drive would do though is open the gamut to so much more product. Whether we get good or bad product is hard to work out, but it would mean we could choose from more product. There's so much riding drive stuff like in Japan. Yeah, we don't get it.
And that's the thing I was talking to one of the boys at work today about Justin's markets, and apparently Toyota did put a business case together about whether they would go with that car or whether they would keep building ore in Australia, like building ore in Australia. So we ended up taking a big money. V6 for our wheel drive and our performance bearing really compared to that car. Tom, the future of cars.
I tend to always look back and you're 20 years in the game. We look back 20 years ago, we were driving in the early nights, and look what we are today. You know what to get an idea of when we're going to be in 20 years time, because it's all incremental changes. Like, more than 100.
If you look at the usual parameters, they're all going to be quicker and quicker. Ferrari, 20 years ago, did 6, 7 seconds to 100. We can jump into a county. We did that with the kids.
We went from our first car and we did the zero to 100-old first cars to the car. So in 20 years time, each car's going to get to 102 and a half, three seconds. I think because they're electric, they're using. And then after that, because they're a contraction issue, you're never going to get any faster.
However, they're going to be electric. I was going to go on that point. Do you think electric cars are coming? We don't have the infrastructure.
No, they're coming. They are coming 100%. They're coming 100%. Yeah, basically.
We'll set up a dodgy car. Have they been getting 10 on the road? There's a couple of things. Let me try and break it down.
And it's funny, because on the radio show we do, and I'm going to do radio tonight, and because it's at night, you get a few more vocal people going out. You get some like, yeah, you get some like, yeah, you got Nick Lynch on there again, you have Ring on the back. I'm going to go with the front door. Did you drop because they're going to have a collector car?
I'll tell you why. They only sell 2% of them here because they're too expensive, and manufacturers aren't offering them. That's the first thing. The second thing is, we don't build cars here anymore, so we will get what we're given.
Now, if Japan says to Toyota, by 2030, you cannot sell internal combustion cars. Where are we getting a petrol Toyota from? Where are we getting a diesel Toyota from? We can get electric Toyota's.
Full stop. And this is what I say to people on the radio. Not my opinion. So supply, not demand.
It's not demand. It's not demand. There's no large overwhelming tidal wave of people saying, we want electric cars. It's governments mandating it for emissions and telling the manufacturers what to do.
You don't think that, it's not been think over the last 30 years, how much money, any manufacturer, let's pick out, for example, how much money have they spent developing petrol engines? They're not just going to overnight. So, if you look at fuel economy 20 years ago today, would that be incremental? Oh, would it be?
Absolutely. Yeah, they've asked me better than that. I mean, they used to be. You can drive around in a V12 eventador that uses one-third the amount of petrol that a Diablo used, or a cornstarch used.
So, yeah, for sure. But that's not the point. We had a story on our site today about, we interviewed Stefan Winkleman at that Lambo, and he has effectively said the next eventador will be a V12 hybrid, and they will be electric by 2025. They will be.
Because they have to be. Because they have to be. Because the government in Italy is saying you have to build these cars. So, we don't have to build those and they can give me a one-wheeler.
No, it's not developing it. Because there will be no point in spending money on a tiny market like Australia. Now, this is the example I use everybody to try to illustrate how insignificant we are in Australia. We sell around about a million new cars a year.
People take a bit of it. In a good year in the United States, they'll sell one million F-trus. Aloted. Every 30 years, it's like a few cars.
One million F-trus. That is one truck from one manufacturer only. Now, as a 12-30 million. We're nothing.
We're nothing in the overall standard. We're nothing in the overall standard. You're not going to get, it could be, forget, buy-in supercars. You're not going to get Mercedes Benz saying there's 600 people in Australia, one of I see 63 that makes a shitload of noise.
Let's spend millions developing that car. When we say electric coming, we will have no saying it. What I'm saying to you is, it's not my opinion. That is the...
You're going to charge it at home. I know, but that'll fit the infrastructure. Yeah, I can't see it. Because I'm only still faucet can all do this.
The thing is, I keep getting told that that example is like telling someone 20 years ago that when your mobile phone was about to go flat, you'd run into a powerpoint at an airport and charge it before you got on a plane. Everybody goes out now. We will have to change our behaviour. I mean, look, you can still buy secondhand cars.
This is what I keep telling people. No one's putting a gun to your head and saying you've got to buy an electric car. They're just saying the new car on the market will be electric. You can choose by a 5, 10, 20-year-old car.
So, the example that I use a lot is the horse. We used to ride horses to get from 8B. We moved to motor cars. There are still horses.
You can still ride them. So, we're going to go to electric, but then we'll still be cars. So, we're going to have cars too. So, Melbourne car will be cars.
Old cars. Because of course, the car is a bit more than a 3-year-old. So, it's a 60-30-year-old car. It is happening whether we like it or not.
But the noise, the system's going to rip past me this morning. I had my car, I dropped down to Jesus. We've driven a few electric cars in the last couple of months. I've been, I ate.
Did you like it? I did. You've been on the bike? I'm not.
I love the I ate. It was my favourite at all. I like your in Melbourne. I don't mind them.
I just think they're very, um, they just do it. But what I think we all need to remember is realistically, we are dinosaurs. Like, ask an 8-year-old kid what a CD is. Ask an 8-year-old kid what a magazine is.
They're only going to know you're like, we're car. I try to put cars with kids on it. Yeah, yeah. And we're talking about how we, I just wanted to get down to the video.
We had to wait and pick 7 videos. We only got to take 2. And then there was like a try. 50 cents for not rewinding it.
And the kids were like, well, no. We're trying to explain the cassette in the car. And then, you know, as you record it off the right. And then, you know, if the whole button down the other next bit, to get to the next song.
And I think that is the point. All that stuff that we, you know, think of this, someone said the tech journey, and I said this to me the other day. Kids don't even understand what a button on a phone looks like. Because it's all touch screen.
Right. So they don't understand the keypad. Let alone this other technology that we're this old antiquated stuff, you know. And really, when you start thinking about it, what electric vehicles do for the person who doesn't care about how they get from A to B?
Is it removes all the trepidation that is, you have with a car? Will it start? What if it doesn't like heat? What if it doesn't like hold is the engine reliable?
The gearbox. All those moving cars are gone. And you just drive off and go. So I think for the average person, it removes all of that.
You ask about where you're going to charge it. It's everywhere. We have got to work out what the hell we're doing in this country with charging electric vehicles because the system at the moment is rushed. If we actually had 10% new car sales were electric next year, we'd be stuffed.
Because we don't have the public charging. We don't have the public charging. You've got a broad way. And there's 15 vessels waiting in charge.
Yeah. No, they've got to sort that out. So basically- If you're on a service station, I mean, there's a lot of waste that's made of silver. Would you set up?
I'd say there's 30 minutes they're going to buy. I said to someone the other day, I've driven electric cars now in Spain, Italy, America and Germany. And all of those countries, all of them, it just staggers me that we're so stupid and backward here, we haven't worked it out. They're in charges in service stations.
So you drive out of Madrid on a road and you see a rep-sile sign because there's a petrol station. And your brain goes, that's where I go for petrol. You pull in and there's a bank of electric charges. The same in terms of electric charges.
There's a hungry jack's in there. There's a chicken shop, whatever it might be. You go and get coffee out of each charge. You go and go.
We think it's a difference. I don't know why we haven't done it. We're going to have to look at the way we do it. For example, I think there are charge spots in Golden that we've used before.
We've been driving around testing. They're in that dodgy service station on the outskirts of Golden when you come in from the Sydney side. And the only thing there is the Sir Diamond. We're going to need to put them in town so that then you can go to the bakery or you can go into Coles or do whatever you might want.
Not have it 10 Ks out, 5 Ks out, down the road. But where no one can answer the question on that is who pays for the instrument. Who builds it? What's very expensive to build it?
Who had to put it in two Tesla charging stations for someone who's at the shop. And he said it was so expensive. It was so expensive. Because that's not the substation.
And to your point with the apartments, that's the other problem. Apartment buildings, if everyone in your apartment building got an electric vehicle tomorrow, the feed into the building will be good. You don't have to rebuild it. You don't have to still stay in the city's problem.
Moving away. Is there any shit cars out there? Have you driven on a car? Come on.
This is the sort of talk. We're pretty nice. Is there any light? It's just cave of drill.
Yeah. Because the Chitney Chitney's cars are a couple of way. They're a couple of way. Look at the Chitney's car.
There are MG. MG. Have you ever seen a GM? A GM is the odd road.
Yeah, they've got them trying. All the Tesla Model 3's we get in Australia and have got them trying. Which upset a lot of Tesla fans. It doesn't seem to be in their own.
It's actually the call is a bit of an error. Look, there aren't what I would call shit cars. But there are cars. Now what I think has happened is the level of wear and average car is going up along the way.
And then there's cars beyond that. You know, there are cars that probably don't have enough safety gear in them. It's unacceptable to me that things like the Suzuki Jimmy and the Jeep Wrangler aren't five-star safety cars. safety cars there.
Yeah, there's no excuse for that. And you know, wait, Ford Australia knew that was going to happen, but what can you do? It's the car you've been supplied from their office. So there are no, you know, I don't get in a car and just think this car is completely shit.
Ever, really. But there are cars that you look at and think, well how do they forget that? Why isn't that in there? The engine doesn't make up power.
You know, it should have these features, the safety rate, it should be better. The cars have really come along. It might be because you feel good. Let's try and train.
The cars come along. Look at, if you look at what I was on, you know, 15 years ago, I was getting pressed cars and I was giving a humbo to that coupe. And you wouldn't even, you know, now if you got it, I got it into an eye, certain set. I was like, well, you got to check out this car.
It's an eye 20 sum in thing. I was like, oh, yeah. It wasn't actually a bad car. It reminded me of what Volkswagen Golfs were, you know, 15 years ago.
I think everybody has really seen someone the other day, if you, they were criticizing Chinese built cars. And I said to them, if you think the Chinese manufacturers aren't deadly serious about succeeding, you don't know what you're talking about. Like, China does not go into anything without the intention to win. And I reckon they'll get to where the South Korean manufacturers got to in the half time because they developed the money.
But they went into the car and they showed it to them. And if you look at where he under and clear, if you can't go back to the late 80s, your father would have kicked you in the head if you came over to the new Hyundai. Now, our fathers are driving because they can cut. You won't see 7 years with a clear.
They're a good car. So I could never understand when people used to say to me, just before I put a Mark 4 Golf GDI, I don't remember my guy, Father's, you know, I can't buy a Volkswagen. They're shit and then crap. And I could never understand up until a couple of weeks ago the perception that he has from Europe of that car of the golf that I was buying.
In 10 years time, if someone turned on now, I bought a Hyundai. I'd be like, they're not actually really going to take it. That's exactly right. The brands now have all set their game up like that.
The quality of the inclusion of the standard features, all that stuff is very good. Back to the electric stuff. I'm doing a test drive, which we're going to do. I'm going to do it instead of buying it.
But it's in the boat. On my 10 hour, they've given me electric outboards to try against the, I know, they're going to give me a couple of electric. And the power in a water. Electric?
Yeah, sounds like a good idea. No, no, no, it's amazing. Right? I was thinking, I was changing this guy, and he said, remember you were a kid, you had the, you had the, to me, a frog, which was electric.
And then everyone was cruising around, and then the guy pulls up, the petrol, the petrol, the remote control car. You know, he was losing with electric. Now, things have changed. Who's really moving with the car?
That's very true. Do you want to even stick your drum do well? Yes. Yes.
Is it because of the cars or the bikes? It's just the general appearance that I have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they do.
Yeah. I've had, yeah. I've had the same. I had the same.
You didn't have a car. You didn't have a car. The two or three. Yeah.
Strip down. Race car. Or a whole, you know. Yeah.
I'd actually prefer, I prefer the people that I don't know what I do. Like the last thing. I talk to you, I try not to talk to people that I joke with people that I talk about, I do what Sir Tony's front, I used to do, which is when they say, we're different. We're just some in race management.
Because otherwise I get stuck all night, some of they're talking about work, because that's what people want to talk about. But I'm thinking about buying a car. Yeah, exactly all that. My neighbours, I've quite had to tell them what I do.