#11: @definikola, DeFi Saver | Building for power users, monetization, and crypto UX layers

In this episode, @definikola from DeFi Saver joins us to discuss balancing quality and quantity, catching blue-chip protocols early, and DeFi Saver's business model. We also touch on the dominance of blue-chip apps, the importance of user control and what’s next for DeFi Saver.00:00 - Introduction to DeFi Saver02:55 - Balancing quality and quantity04:51 - New products and new users07:07 - Catching blue-chip protocols early10:36 - How not tracking users impacts building products12:35 - DeFi Saver’s business model17:55 - Recipes and novel use cases22:23 - Why blue-chip apps dominate23:50 - Why more people don’t use UX layers27:23 - Frontend fees29:18 - Giving control to users32:52 - The pros and cons of having a token36:22 - Integrating passkeys to DeFi Saver37:66 - What’s next from DeFi SaverTo learn more about Definikola: https://x.com/definikolaAnd Defi Saver: https://defisaver.com/Follow Wallfacer: https://twitter.com/wallfacerlabsAnd our host, Ryan Rodenbaugh: https://twitter.com/ryanrodenbaugh https://warpcast.com/ryanrodenbaughAnd subscribe for all our other content: https://linktr.ee/wallfacerlabs This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wallfacerlabs.substack.com