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EPISODE · Jun 2, 2026 · 39 MIN

110 Jonathan Stark: Why Hourly Billing Is Costing You a Fortune

from Agency Forward · host Chris DuBois

Hey everyone, today I'm joined by Jonathan Stark.Jonathan is an author, speaker, and consultant who has spent over 20 years helping agencies and consultants escape the trap of hourly billing. He hosts the Ditching Hourly podcast, has published over 500 episodes on the subject, and runs the Ditcherville community. I wanted Jonathan on because pricing is one of the most underlevered moves in any agency owner's toolkit. Most people know hourly billing isn't ideal, but very few know how to actually make the switch without panicking.In this episode, we discuss:Why fixed-price quotes feel risky and how to price them correctlyThe real source of scope creep in value-priced engagementsThe first productized service every agency should buildAnd more...You can learn more about Jonathan on LinkedIn and at JonathanStark.com-----------Lead Gen is the hardest part of running an agency.For most, it's unpredictable, it's slow, and it's usually expensive.Gia flips that.It's the all-in-one growth platform that turns your existing relationships and client work into a steady pipeline.Gia automates lead gen follow-up and content, and it's all from the work you're already doing.You can check it out and get some free bonuses at getgia.ai/dynamicagency-----------No one was asking for another community. But I've made one anyway.So what's different?The Dynamic Agency Community is designed around access rather than content.Access to peers who've done it before.Access to experts who've designed solutions.Access to resources that have been battle-tested.And right now, the price for founding members is only $97/year.Join today so your agency has immediate access to everything you need to grow.You can join at DynamicAgencyOS.com/Community.-----------Subscribe to the Agency Forward blog on Substack.We have weekly blog content with practical advice to help you advance your agency.-----------And if you're ready for 1-on-1 help to create some mind-blowing offers for your agency, visit DynamicAgencyOS.com to schedule a free consultation. Running an agency is tough, but you don't need to go it alone.

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