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EPISODE · Jul 30, 2026 · 48 MIN

#111 - EOS vs MAP: Why Self-Implementing Stalls Your Business | FROM THE TRENCHES

from The BMK Vision Podcast · host Josh Peterson

"We run EOS" usually turns out to mean "we bought a tool." Josh Peterson sits down with Michael Caito — the CEO who built Restaurants on the Run into a $40M pre-internet DoorDash, sold it to Grubhub, then bought MAP, the consulting firm that had coached his own company for fifteen years. Michael Caito is the Owner & CEO of MAP (Management Action Programs), and in this conversation we explore EOS vs MAP, why self-implemented operating systems stall into to-do lists, and why every MSP business should be built to sell — even if the owner never intends to sell it. ---------- 🎙 What We Cover in This Episode - Compare EOS and MAP where it actually matters: facilitation, cadence, and manager training - Diagnose the "to-do list in a tool" failure mode of self-run systems - Understand why a CEO can't facilitate and participate in the same meeting - Swap quarterly planning theater for monthly compounding accountability - Reclaim management: one person accountable beats seven player-coaches - Build enterprise value early, so selling is a choice — not a scramble - Escape the peer-group trap that caps you at the average of the room - Qualify like MAP does: hungry and humble, or no deal ---------- 👤 Guest Links Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelcaitomap/ Company Website: https://mapconsulting.com ---------- 🚀 Subscribe & Follow BMK Vision YouTube (Video Podcast): https://www.youtube.com/@beringmckinleyvision?sub_confirmation=1 Learn More About the Vision Platform: https://beringmckinley.com/vision Apply to Be a Guest: https://beringmckinley.com/blog#speaker-form ---------- 🔎 SEO Keywords - MAP vs EOS - Business operating system - EOS alternative - CEO coaching - Business accountability - Enterprise value - Build a business you can sell - Managed service providers - BMK Vision Podcast ---------- 📝 Credits Host: Josh Peterson Producer: Bering McKinley Episode: #111 - EOS vs MAP: Why Self-Implementing Stalls Your Business | FROM THE TRENCHES

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