EPISODE · Jun 30, 2026 · 52 MIN
#111 Fred Provenza: What If Your Cravings Were Never the Problem?
from Serves You Right · host Andrew Roy
You've been told to count macros, read labels, and white-knuckle every craving into submission…and it's quietly failing you. This episode argues the problem was never your discipline. It's that you've been severed from nutritional wisdom: the body's built-in system for sensing what it actually needs and steering you toward it through flavor and feedback. Fred Provenza, who studied this at Utah State for 35 years and shaped the science behind Mark Schatzker's The Dorito Effect and Steak, walks through how animals self-medicate, why "it just tastes good" is the most misunderstood phrase in nutrition, and why food that looks perfect can carry almost no nourishment at all. If you make a living serving food or just eat three times a day on autopilot, then this episode is for you.Expect to Learn:Why a deficient goat will eat something genuinely disgusting to fix itself, and what that says about your own "weird" cravingsThe three "legs of the stool" that all have to be intact before your body can guide your diet (break one and the whole thing collapses)Why "it just tastes good" is hiding a far more interesting answer than you thinkHow farming for yield stripped both the flavor and the nourishment out of food that looks flawlessThe single grocery-store change Fred and his wife made that removed the willpower battle entirelyLinks:Nourishment — Fred Provenza (book) Nourishment — audiobook adaptation"Cosmic Dreamings"Mark Schatzker on Serves You Right PodcastService starts now.Follow the show: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTubeI talk to people in and around the service industry space. I'm looking to hear from the people I wish I could have talked to when I was coming up in bars. Said another way: I am trying to make sense of this wild, beautiful mess that can be a life working in bars, and help others that are feeling similarly confused and/or lost. Check out the Podcast Website Here and get in touch with me!Classic Episodes You May Like:Doug Frost MW MSJeffrey MorgenthalerET: Entrepreneur (and creator of Surfer on Acid)Edward Slingerland's Masterful work on IntoxicationAndrew Hurley of Vegas.WineChris Tunstall of A Bar AboveTony Abou-GanimBobby "G" GleasonAs always, I’m just here taking notes, trying to figure out what it all means.Cheers
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You've been told to count macros, read labels, and white-knuckle every craving into submission…and it's quietly failing you. This episode argues the problem was never your discipline. It's that you've been severed from nutritional wisdom: the body's built-in system for sensing what it actually needs and steering you toward it through flavor and feedback. Fred Provenza, who studied this at Utah State for 35 years and shaped the science behind Mark Schatzker's The Dorito Effect and Steak, walks through how animals self-medicate, why "it just tastes good" is the most misunderstood phrase in nutrition, and why food that looks perfect can carry almost no nourishment at all. If you make a living serving food or just eat three times a day on autopilot, then this episode is for you.Expect to Learn:Why a deficient goat will eat something genuinely disgusting to fix itself, and what that says about your own "weird" cravingsThe three "legs of the stool" that all have to be intact before your body can guide your diet (break one and the whole thing collapses)Why "it just tastes good" is hiding a far more interesting answer than you thinkHow farming for yield stripped both the flavor and the nourishment out of food that looks flawlessThe single grocery-store change Fred and his wife made that removed the willpower battle entirelyLinks:Nourishment — Fred Provenza (book) Nourishment — audiobook adaptation"Cosmic Dreamings"Mark Schatzker on Serves You Right PodcastService starts now.Follow the show: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTubeI talk to people in and around the service industry space. I'm looking to hear from the people I wish I could have talked to when I was coming up in bars. Said another way: I am trying to make sense of this wild, beautiful mess that can be a life working in bars, and help others that are feeling similarly confused and/or lost. Check out the Podcast Website Here and get in touch with me!Classic Episodes You May Like:Doug Frost MW MSJeffrey MorgenthalerET: Entrepreneur (and creator of Surfer on Acid)Edward Slingerland's Masterful work on IntoxicationAndrew Hurley of Vegas.WineChris Tunstall of A Bar AboveTony Abou-GanimBobby "G" GleasonAs always, I’m just here taking notes, trying to figure out what it all means.Cheers
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