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Dec 19, 2022 1 hr

111. Jefferson Hardship

from Retrospection Hosted by Colin and Paul

In this festive filled episode, we're travelling to galaxy far, far away and spending time with the Star Wars Holiday Special from 1978. Along the way Paul wonders how to tell the age of a Wookie, Colin wishes he was watching The Incredible Hulk, and both of us ponder the idea of Wookie spinoffs. So much Wookie fun and so little time.

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Hello and welcome to a festive episode of Retrospection as we close out 2022 which travelling to a galaxy that's far away by spending time with the infamous Star Wars holiday special from 1978. My name's Colin and I am your fantasy. I am your experience. So experience me.

I am your pleasure. Enjoy me. This is our moment to get every time that we might turn this moment into an eternity. You know what?

I know something else that feels like an eternity. What's that? Just bloody film. It does go on a bit.

Just to watch what happens like, I didn't like that at all. That's a bother to me. Especially as I can see you when you do it as well. I didn't like that.

I'm even wearing the same costume that you are in the episode. That's adding to the disturbing aspect of it Colin. Yes. And my name is Paul and it's all right.

Nobody's perfect. Yeah, but I'm pretty damn close. It's all right. I know you say that.

TMDB, because I'm refusing to use AMDB anymore because it's crap. Oh, it's horrible. You can't find anything anymore. No, no.

I think I'm enough to start teaching it. Yeah. TMDB says Luke Skywalker in Han Solo, battle, evil, imperial, fastest to help Chewbacca reach his imperiled family on the Wookiee planet in time for a life day, the most important day of the year. It's nice that all the TMDB is just absurd as AMDB.

That sounds exciting. It does. I was just thinking, did I watch the wrong movie? Yeah?

That's not the icon. That's a VR. The special stars Mickey Martin is Mala, Patty Maloney is Lumpy, Paul Gail is itchy. Someone called Merc Hamill is Luke Skywalker.

Someone called Harrison Farne is Han Solo, Carrie Fisher is Princess Leah, Anthony Daniels is a C3PO, Peter Beahue is Chewbacca, Jamesville Johns, Vice only. Steph Vader, Beahue for his Acmeena, Harvey Carmen as Krellman and Chef Commander. And is it Diane, Carol or Diane, Carol? I tried.

I looked it up and I got two different conunciations. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But people know who we're talking about.

Right? Yeah. Er, Kearney as Saan Dan and the, er, wonderful, delightful musical interlude of Jefferson Starship. That was a highlight, actually.

It really was. To be honest, all the musical bits are a highlight because it means less comedy. That is true. I'll comedy.

You're using the word comedy? I'm using it, but there are not just inverted commas. They are giant and they are illuminated from space. I don't think I've ever seen anything.

The people doing that. Stop there, Paul. I take that as the truth. The people doing the comedy look like the Dine inside as they're doing it.

Not as much as Harrison Ford does. Oh yeah. This was written by a comedy writer. I can only assume that someone afterwards did a pass and removed all the jokes.

Did you read that he apparently was heavily into cocaine when he wrote this as well? I think it would be easier to have listed people in this that weren't. That is very true. To be honest, I was watching it.

That's why I went wrong. What year was this? 1978. So this would have been the height of things like Studio 54 era, all that kind of thing.

It shows. It really does. The version I watched began with a message, Wonder Woman and the Incredible Hulk. We'll not be presented this evening.

For the first time ever, I wished I was watching the Incredible Hulk. We're really blowing our stack early, as they say, in the small Peruvian clubs. That's not very true. There's not a lot of stack too blow really, in fact, it's still this thing.

I always put myself in the position of me as a kid sitting down for an evening to watch Wonder Woman and Incredible Hulk. This crap comes on. I would not be impressed. No, you won't be with you.

I do. I assume the response to this at the time was negative. I'm guessing so. I mean, it's never been repeated, has it?

Ever. That's true. I carry Fisher, apparently, that used to play a DVD of this party that she was holding if she wanted people to go. Nice.

She doesn't even remember being in it. She's got rather large pupils, doesn't she? In a much of this. Yeah.

Yeah. But we'll talk about, there's a particular actor in this who's faces. He's just weird, right? We know I prefer it too.

We'll see. Yeah. So we open with what could be seen from style was, Han Solo invades the day of destroyers as he tries to get to back up back to his homeworld, Kazook. Yeah, but it's Kashy, isn't it?

The Changer? Well, I can imagine why. Kazook sounds like a Middle Eastern instrument. It does.

It does. It's almost a few bears. You know the idea of centering around Chewbacca's family on Kashy got Kashy because it's called in this and he's like, that came straight from George Lucas. Really?

Yeah. That was the one stipulation that he had. It had to be all around. They care about anything else.

They don't like it. They don't like it. They're rolling around in money. I didn't see him.

Like, how is the fud pretty much sets up the exposition? He's like the crowd at the beginning of a stairway. It is just exposition spouted at the camera, isn't it? Yeah.

You know in 2015 he was asked if he'd ever take part in every prize and hand solo and take part in a future holiday special, Star Wars holiday special. And he's responsible for that. He said he'd rather kill himself. That's the thing about Harroso far.

People are like, oh, he looks miserable in this holiday special. How can he tell? Because he looks miserable 90% of the time. He does.

He does, yeah. But he looks, he does look exceptionally fed up. Yeah. Yeah.

So we got a voice over introducing our main players and some really ropy video effects. If you're watching this, like for the first time, you're like, oh yeah, this isn't really Star Wars. Oh, definitely. But they mix it down with shots from the movie as well.

Yeah. But what's that weird shot of Carrie Fisher? I don't know where it's like, it's like Murkhammel and it's like Murkhammel and he's like smiling and looking. And then it's like Carrie's on four or whatever and he's like looking and then it's Carrie Fisher.

And she's like looking off camera just like, mouth kind of like it's a weird look. I wonder why I called him. I mean, it's so blank, right? C3PR is my expression.

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, the wookie masks, they're more expressive than they really aren't they? Yeah.

Talking of the wookie's, we get his Chewbacca's family's names. His favorite is called Itchy. His son is lumpy. Why did these wookiees have English names or nicknames?

I don't know. But Itchy and lumpy. I think I've got cream for that. You just never used it though.

No. You like the scratching. Yeah, I'll let you guys away. I'll let you know.

Does it? The entire opening scene with Chewbacca's family has no dialogue, just wookie noises, which I believe is called Shiri Walk. Is it? Okay.

Why are the curfing next wings? If you're going to start by asking questions like that, we're going to be here all night. I mean, there's no answer. Do you ever wonder how wookiees go to the bathroom?

Oh, it's got to be a process, doesn't it? I mean, that's all that hurt. It's going to be messy, isn't it? Yeah.

Yeah. To be honest with you, these wookiees, they are stuff of nightmares. Yes. They're not the most cuddly of creatures.

No, especially Itchy. He's quite frightened. I didn't like Itchy at all. You don't like Itchy.

No, no. I like Itchy. It's got a bit of a stirling. You should be used to it.

But you can look in at this family though. Yeah. You've got this out. Yeah.

Maybe the whole blockade thing is just a ruse. We don't have to go home. There's not even an empire or anything. There's just guys who pays.

No, it's a very expensive long game. I work day players. They've got nothing else to do. So you get some costumes.

I would explain a lot. It really would. Especially that one officer that we get to meet later. My God.

Yeah. But going back to what you said about scenes of wookiees talking in the language with no subtitles. It's almost like avant-garde, isn't it? It's like what's going on here?

There is a part of me that sits there and goes, you know, I got to admire that someone thought this would be a good idea to put on prime time to you. Oh, yeah. You wouldn't get that now. No, you've got to respect who's having, who's having this decision it was.

Yeah. It's like, and I'm going to say this, but bear in mind that what the example I'm going to use is incredibly fantastic and amazing. Not rubbish like this. I mean, we don't know if it's rubbish.

We might like it. But it's like giving Kate Bush a Christmas special and going, do what you want. Because if you've seen that Christmas special, it's wacky as all hell. But it's genius.

Yeah. This is just not genius. Yeah. It wouldn't be a thing like that.

But they put on a hologram entertainment system that looks like the chessboard from the original film and it shows dancers and jugglers who don't look like walkies. Well, yeah, there's a lot of that in this. There's something later that you think would be wooky based, but isn't there? There it costs you little green.

There's ones in orange fur appear to be wearing sunglasses. That's right. Already I was thinking, what the hell am I watching it? This is what's going on?

Yeah. Oh, this went on looking at my watch going really? Really? There are a few times and I'm sure you feel the sound or a few times or I kind of check that out of it watching this.

Oh, I was glued. What to the chair? So you couldn't go away. Yeah, had to be.

Hey, got someone else to do it. It wasn't the chair that he sits on later. Was it by the chance of you and stuff doing it? Oh, maybe that was what the glue was.

I hope it was glue. So they look up to because they're trying to find out why Chewbacca hasn't turned up already for life day. And they go on like a screen that's like traffic control for stir ships. It's like a sea fax.

It did a nice e-back, yes. Why is it in English? The wokies have just spent 10 minutes, 50 minutes of my life in the winter. Talking in growls.

That's right. Yes. We should have done the entire podcasting growls. We'll do a separate version.

A wokie version. Yeah. So it's part of the wokie version. I'll get more down.

That's true. That is probably true. Yeah. By the way, when I don't know if we've got to that bit yet because it's all kind of jumbled up in my head.

It's even though I did actually make notes. That's fine. I imagine we're going to jump around a bit. I can't remember whether.

I think it's after they look at the traffic control thing. But there's a bit where lumpy goes out onto the balcony and starts to climb up onto the ledge. Yeah. I'm going to jump himself off it for a second.

You will. That's what he's in. He knows what he's in. He's going to kill himself straight away.

He's going to check out completely. Yeah. I felt like it's a bit old to be doing that. That's something you've been...

I assume that was done to show us that it's high up so that we can see what happens. Well, that would be logical reason, wouldn't it? But it seems like why would you be doing that? It is.

How long has he supposed to be anyway? Well, I don't know. Is wokie years like doggy years? I don't know.

I don't know how that works. Well, it could be 152 for all I don't. And that could just be still a baby, couldn't it? Yeah.

I have no idea. Sorry, then he was walking out there listening. Obviously, when you listen to the wokie version that we're going to do, then just let us know. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. But we have to ask... Oh, yeah. Just ask them.

I'll say you can answer. I'll say you can answer. Holly, mind your language, please. Oh, sorry.

So they call Luke to try and find out where Han Solo and Chewbacca is. And why has Luke gone all goth? Well, I was going to say, is it Luke? Because we're not sure, really.

You think Luke or is it just someone wearing Luke's face, but it's kind of wrong? Was this before that? Yeah, it was after the accident, right? So they had to do it cover it up.

Yeah. It makes him look like a wishy version of Luke Skywalker, doesn't it? A what? A wishy version.

You know, like Luke Skywalker from Wish. You look at the picture on the line. Oh, yeah, that's a great Luke Skywalker. And when it turns up, it looks like this.

Yeah, like a palatoid version in the 80s. Yeah. In fact, the Luke Skywalker in the cartoon later looks more like Luke Skywalker than Luke Skywalker. Well, that's saying something.

But yeah, he's all guffed up with the A-shad-O. Well, apparently they had to completely restructure his face, didn't they, after the accident. Yeah, I mean, they explained it in Empire. Yeah, the Bantha attack or whatever.

No, it wasn't a Bantha. Was it a Bantha? Was it a Bantha? Was it?

Was it a good one for the last time? No, no, no, no, no, it was a one-per. Yeah, it was a one-per. It was a one-per.

One-per, one-per to get up your jumper. Is that how he works? That's the one, yes. You've got to say that that my family's given it, he's shown his enthusiasm.

He's the only one who is. Yeah, I know. I feel bad for him. Well, I don't feel bad for him because he's getting paid shit a lot of do it.

So it's not exactly down the coal mines, is it? No, he's really going for it. Yeah, apparently he does try and dot questions about this. I'll just say, I'm just tired of people bringing it up.

Yeah, yeah. Well, he tells them that, well, now they tell him that Chewbacca hasn't arrived for life day. It kind of feels obvious that Matt Campbell is talking to nobody. It's also pretty obvious as well that I don't think anybody's learned a script.

They all look like they're just reading it from cards. They were probably giving it 15 minutes before they turned up on set. And I used to say it very loosely. Yeah, very loosely, yes.

Doesn't it start almost coming on to Mrs. Chewbacca at one point? Mrs. Chewbacca.

I'm going to call. I'm going to stick to Mela. That's the one, yes. You start to chat her up, doesn't it?

Well, I think he's going to be out of luck because I personally believe Mela has already got a man on the side. Oh dear. I think there's trouble in the Chewbacca land. Are you going to tell us about that later?

Yep, yep. So far we're 15 minutes into this technically, but it feels like an hour. I kept bringing up the time of the YouTube channel because I watched this on YouTube. And I kept, what, 15, 20 minutes?

Shooly not. I don't know. Tell me about that. An hour and 10 minutes.

You kidding me? What the hell? I did stop it a few times. I had to.

I needed a break. Did you? Yeah. What kind of blowing I wanted here early, haven't you?

I mean, there's no way we're going to defend this. It would be amazing if we did. Ah, but maybe I'll do a twist at the end. Oh, it's a double bluff.

Like a Shyamalan or a DingDong film. I look forward to that. Oh, Mrs. I'm going to look forward to one of his films, Colin.

Oh, nice. And Imperial Guard turns up at someone called Dan's place. He's the Sandan. He's the trader.

He's like a little sharp. And he says to the guard, I spotted you. I did it to the papers. And the guard's like, no, I'm off duty.

He's like, so why are you wearing your uniform then, mate? Is everything in the wash? Why are you wearing it? If you're off duty.

Also, that uniform doesn't fit in. I don't think it says. No, I don't think it says either. In fact, I don't even think his voice is his because it was all ADR.

He's not a lot. Oh, that explains why it was weird and why he wasn't looking at the camera when he was talking. Exactly. I mean, how bad was this actor's performance that they answered ADR it?

Like, because I'm pretty sure that they're going to find the shopkeeper. His audio is recorded there and then you can just tell. It's not ADR. So how bad was the other guy?

But he also looks like he's smiling occasionally. Yeah, I wonder whether they just didn't like what was scripted. So then they just replaced it like somebody. Well, maybe.

Yeah. Yeah. So Dan communicates with Bala and gives him a cryptic message about Han Solo being on the way. Yeah.

But I say cryptic. It's pretty obvious what the message is. I mean, the guy that stood there, he's having the stupidest guy on the planet. Oh, he's like you.

When he's off duty, he's seriously off duty. Well, you know, when you finish work, work is no longer a thing. Yeah. And the rebels are low-keyed.

Oh, well done. Lunch time. But the rebels, they're located on half. Sorry.

Can't hear you. Off. Got me buttsies. He's off the clock.

Yeah. That's another thing about this. Like, usually you get like a few films before things go off the rails and start like doing like holiday specials and cashing in. This is right after Star Wars.

Yeah. I think I read that the reason why George Lucas agreed to do this is because they were working on Empire at this point. Very early pre-production of Empire and that they felt like he still needed to keep Star Wars in the public eye. So he agreed to do this because he thought he would keep it going.

But at that point in time, I would imagine that the movie was probably still playing in theaters anyway, wasn't it? Because it's pretty big of a set. Yeah, it's pretty taped. So it wouldn't been around for a while.

Oh yeah. But they're lucky this is like pre-saslaf days isn't it? Because he would have council Empire immediately after seeing this. Nice little writers.

Give any figure chabs. Unless it's reality dating shows. Then he's all over. You know what we're talking about doing a spin off from this?

Maybe that could have been it? A walkie dating show. A walkie dating show? Yeah, but the weird thing is they don't date walkies.

Walkies don't seem to like walkies. They don't. They will talk about that. But they originally were intending to maybe spin this off into something else.

For the Revenge of the Lumpy. That's your medical repart, isn't it? The way that Disney at the minute are just ripping through every property that they own, trying to get stuff from it, blood out of a stone. I wouldn't be surprised if we're somewhere down on the Disney Closhedo, which he's got an age in Lumpy, the further adventures of him.

He's an old man now. He's got kids of his own girls obviously. Because they're off fighting the New Order or a band. What they call?

You know what I mean? In the New Star Order? Oh God. That was a period of truth.

It was a quite rhythmic, aren't they? They got the welding munching. Oh well done. Nice one.

I wouldn't be surprised though. Would you? No, no. Except it might piss Judge Lucas off even further than he's already pissed off.

What can he do though? Really? Nothing that's true. They've already pissed him off so much that a little bit more is not going to make much difference at this point.

You went to the Indiana Jones films and then he's going to be really pissed off. I wanted to talk about that after the podcast. I've heard the rumors of the plot for that. It's not for the podcast but we'll talk about it.

Yeah, yeah. So there's a scene in this where they talk about a grooming device that just goes on forever and is not the slightest possible way amusing. Now, I'm actually full of admiration in how they manage to remove any sense of amusement about this. That is genius.

I agree with you completely. Even accidentally, you might have slipped something a little bit funny into it. But no, no, they managed to remove it. It's just because on and on.

And the actor doing it, he's committing completely. He's giving a performance. He should be. Yeah.

Maybe it was after they said that. But he's really... All the guest actors in this. Which is weird actually.

All the guest actors in this really do give a performance. It's just that the actual Star Wars cast that are just folded in. Yeah. But yeah, it's terrible.

It's the first many terrible comedy moments, really. Yes. We get a scene from Star Wars. I thought it's funny because Leslie Scowfield's voice is clearly dubbed.

Yeah, because it's different dialogue. Yeah. It doesn't match in the slightest. They didn't even attempt to get it right.

I suppose they've just thought, I mean, back in those days, who'd be really paying that much attention to that kind of thing? I suppose not. Yeah. Yeah.

So back in the Wookie house, they turn on a TV set and watch a cooking program. The joke here is the chef has four arms. I assume that's the joke because there's nothing else in it. And he just goes on and on.

And while she's staring, she's going, having fun? Having fun? I'm going, no. No, really.

But thanks for asking. You know, no, guys, they wouldn't do it. I mean, it's very bent for heavy. This recipe, but this is cooking in person soon.

Oh, well, they endangered? Oh, wait. They're just killing them with writing centering style, wasn't they? That's true.

That's true. Yeah. That's a movement. Actually, I do.

I've got to go bathroom. I'm not cutting in another toilet flushly, Colin. I've got it too many times. Back in space, Han Solo, he's spending off tifighters with Mark Lipps from Star Wars.

Yeah, it's amazing how he managed to find himself in the exact same battle as he did in New Hope. Yeah. How many times does Han Solo say, life day? Quite a lot.

I almost turned it into a drinking game. Almost. Almost. Almost.

Yeah, not quite. Okay. So there's a blockade on Chewbacca land. I like that.

Dan turns up to the house, gives Lumpy a life day present. Yeah. And he's a bartender computer with a bunch of bits that seem very awkward for Wookiees to put together. Doesn't he keep calling it, when he walks in, he calls it a watch McQuarly in a thingy-gig.

Almost like the actor, he can't remember his dialogue yet, can he? No, he didn't look natural. I mean, they're not doing multiple takes on this thing, really. Let's face it.

No, no, no. So then he gives a present to the other Wookiee. I've already forgotten the name. Grandad, itchy.

Which appears to be a herdrying machine that he sits in, but it's some kind of via device. And then he loads up a program, but he seems to treat it like it's parn or drugs the way he says. And funny enough, we've got a bunch of lights and then, oh, do you know Carol appears and, well, not really sure at this point what's going on. You know the producers came up with this idea because apparently they thought it would be something for the dads, you know, it's put a bit of soft core in there and pass it through.

You get past the fire sensors, you know, a bit of nice lady. I just think it's funny that he's basically for his life day present, this guy's brought it to you some porn, basically, hasn't he? Yeah, and it's not Wookiee part. Exactly.

Is this like a fetish? I think he is. I think he's got a fetish for humans. Okay.

Can you mention that? Lumpy's just sat there playing with his ex-wing, but Derva is just grabbing his ass over there beating off in the corner under his hairdryer. One more grandad doing it, oh nothing. Big red rocket pointing skyward, you know.

Because he's got what he thought, isn't it, basically. It's like memories of your childhood. Well, what's that dog doing to that other dog? Oh, not that.

No, no. Fair enough that it's not a horrible song. Really? I thought it was quite dull.

Oh, I don't mind it. Maybe actually, it may be more because of what I said earlier, the well, the song's on, at least you're not getting attempts at comedy. That's true. That is very true.

You're like, for the next three minutes, I'm safe. You can get up. You can do something. You can make a drink.

Yeah. Listen to it. Yeah. So from that, we got to Princess Lea and ZB3, I'll talk to the male after the communication device.

Princess Lea says, happy life day. And then ZB3PR translates to male, it says, maybe a happy life day. But personally, she's seen happy ones. And then Lea just cuts him off.

As if to say, oh, I've got time to listen to the worries of these peasants. We're solo. Well, that's my... She's like, oh my god, all this complaining.

I'm a princess. That is kind of how she plays it in the first movie, isn't it? I suppose so. Yeah.

So why does ZB3PR have to translate everything male says to Lea? Does she not speak... Is she the only person that doesn't? Because Luke does.

And solo does. Yeah. I mean, there's no indication in the first hour of me that she understands what she'll be saying, isn't it? Right.

So she's like, I'm a princess. I don't need to learn of a language. Everyone should speak of a man. It's like you when you go abroad, didn't it?

Just shut really low. The British way. Yes. And then when the trader comes on screen, Lea responds, oh good.

As if she's thinking, oh, at least somebody who speaks English. You know, they cut to Princess Lea five minutes earlier than they did. She'd just been a snorting co-caught 3PO's head. You know what I mean?

So I think this trader down. I think he's male is fancy piece. He's a very fancy piece, isn't he? Yeah, I think so.

I think there's a finger in on between the two back and he's to start out. Maybe you're right. No, it may be amongst walkies. There is a bit of a human fetish thing going on.

Yep, I believe so. Yeah. So the trader finishes this conversation by saying, what's that spell? And Matt says, oh yeah, sorry, but getting poop off his fur is impossible.

It does. That doesn't happen. I'm sure I assume it matters quite badly. Yeah.

I mean, yeah. So back to solo and Chewy and they're approaching Chewbacca land. And because of the blockade, they're going to have to land far away and then walk the rest of the way. And doesn't lumpy kind of here his dad fly over the hatch?

No. He does. No, they think it's him, but it's the stormtrooper. All right.

See, you're getting the subtleties here. I didn't, you know, I didn't catch that. We don't watch in the plot points. I might check that out at this point.

I don't know. But because the stormtroopers arrive at Chewbacca's home and very slowly in a scene that goes on forever, an imperial guide walks around and removes his gloves. That actually he's milking his part for all it's worth, isn't it? I wouldn't mind so much, but it's an awful performance.

It's probably a worst performance. All right. So were they padding for time? I think so.

Why do all the stormtroopers just walk around holding their guns right out in front of them? I don't know. What are they searching for? Yeah, well, doesn't one of them actually open the cabinet that's got a radio in it and then just close it again.

They do that. They open cabinets, look, then close the cabinets and then when there's a shelf, they just knock the shelf off the shelf. I don't actually know. Usually when you search a place, you have an idea of something you're looking for.

Or if you want, in this case, links to the family in the Alliance, the documents, you take the documents away with you. But they're just knocking stuff off. They're evil, they are. That's what it is.

Doesn't want to be an imperial officer's Neil Done to lump in creepily say to him, hi, little guy. Maybe he's the nice cop. I don't know about that. All right.

Officer, officer, a sweetie. Yeah, we like a molly. So the trader shows the trooper device that he bought, and as he set and can help the trooper exclaims, we'll get on with it. Never.

There's a trooper, so it's so true. And we get a holographic performance of Jefferson Starship. Do you think they were chosen because of the name? Probably, don't you?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's no, nothing's going to stop us now. But it's a good song.

Yeah. But is this the fourth or even fifth type of electronic entertainment system we see in this house? They've got a lot of devices, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. For watching humans apparently. You know, I never saw the Wookiees as being so technologically minded, did you? Just entertainment stuff.

Nothing else. I don't know. She's got a lot of mogg cons in that kitchen, hasn't she? She's got a microwave in there, kind of thing.

Oh, okay. Fair enough. The guy from Jefferson Starship seemed to be singing into a huge purple gilder as well. Why, wouldn't you?

That's right. And that is no way to talk about Harrison Ford. Should be ashamed of yourself, but... I'm very sorry.

If you listen to Harrison, I'll talk to him. Yeah. So then we got to an animated sequence where apparently Hans Solo and Chewie are on a mission to acquire a mystical talisman that makes things invisible. Oh, is that what it was?

Yeah. Is it made up of the animation style reminds you of Captain Cremen from Kenny Evericha? Yeah, it's not about the same people, but yeah. Yeah, because everyone's so defined as a school like it.

I mean, Hans Solo's face was probably modeled on Harrison Ford's actual look when he was told he had to do this. Maybe. Oddly in the cartoon, R2D2 beeps and Luke asks C3PO for translation. Why is everybody suddenly from that and how to speak of the languages?

I don't think the characters are the writers. To be honest, the animated sequence is the best thing in this whole thing. Yeah, I think it's the only part of this that's available to stream on Disney Plus. Watch the cartoon saying that's it.

So this is canon. I guess so. Because I think that gun that Bob Effect uses is the weird, pronged, rifle thing that he uses. That has been used in the Mandalorian.

I see. All right. And this is the first time Bob Effect actually appears in this before, aren't I? That's right.

That's right. Yeah. Talking about the animation though, the company that did it, they were going to do the, do you remember droids and the walk cartoon? I'm aware of them.

I've never seen them. Yeah. Very similar animation style. I'm told by reliable sources that the animated stuff in the Star Wars universe is actually some of the better material.

Would you be shocked? Really? Especially now? No, widely electrocuted.

All right. So he's watching this. What I didn't quite get. Is he watching a cartoon lumpy?

He's watching a cartoon. He appears to be watching a cartoon. So is this on the Rebel cartoon network or something? Is it like a monthly subscription?

You would think the Empire would not be in favor of a cartoon series that puts them in a bad light. Exactly. I mean, it's basically a cartoon series about the guy that's just blowing up the duster. So is this like a dark web animated series?

Well, actually it can't be a dark web because that's the bad guy. Is it enough to be a light web? Yes. Very confusing.

Yeah. Much like this is. I mean, it's a weird, it's just a weird contact. Whether this was meant to be, he's seeing this live, like you're not supposed to think about the fact that it's a cartoon.

Or is he just watching a cartoon? But he quickly turns it off when he makes an eyes and the gan tans up, right? And then when the gad leaves, he puts it back on. So he's not supposed to be watching it.

So it must be an underground thing, like you said. Yeah, like a pirate TV station. A propaganda. Rebel propaganda.

Yeah, it must be. Right. And the Imperial search the house a bit more, don't it? And does a lot of them go up into one piece of room and rip their head off his toy banter or something?

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