# 111 Leadership Chat: Randal Pinkett + Gina Pisasale - A Few Things - 44 Min

We discussed a few things including:1. Their DEI and entrepreneurial journeys  2. Lessons learned3. Randal's insights on data and diversity + new book4. Gina's experience in the nonprofit, arts world  5. Trends, opportunities and challenges in diversity space Dr. Randal Pinkett, author of DATA-DRIVEN DEI, is an entrepreneur, innovator, and DEI expert. He is the co-founder, chairman, and CEO of BCT Partners, a global research, training, and data analytics firm whose mission is to provide insights about diverse people that lead to equity.An international public speaker, Dr. Pinkett is the author or co-author of Black Faces in High Places, Black Faces in White Places, Campus CEO, and No-Money Down CEO. He holds a B.S. in electrical engineering from Rutgers University; an M.S. in computer science from the University of Oxford; and an M.S in electrical engineering, plus an MBA and Ph.D. from MIT.  The first African American to receive a Rhodes Scholarship at Rutgers University, he was inducted into the Academic All-America Hall of Fame as a high jumper, long jumper, sprinter, and captain of the Rutgers men’s track and field team. Dr. Pinkett was also the Season 4 winner of the reality television show, The Apprentice.----Gina Pisasale (she/her) is a dramaturg, educator, and Director of Equity and Organizational Culture, a newly created position, at McCarter. She has been engaged in formal EDI work within American theater institutions for almost 20 years, and is an alum of TCG's EDI Institute and artEquity's National Facilitator Training program. As an EDI Facilitator, she has designed and implemented trainings and workshops at People’s Light, the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, West Chester University, and Drexel University.Previously, she was the Resident Dramaturg at People’s Light, which involved facilitating the company's EDI work and practices of inclusive making. As a freelance dramaturg, she has worked with companies such as the Oregon Shakespeare Festival, GoKash Productions, PlayPenn, Arden Theatre Company, Harrisburg Shakespeare Festival, and A&E Biographies. She is an occasional Senior Lecturer at University of the Arts and her areas of research include Asian American theater and performance, Korean diasporic performance, American dramaturgy, and representations of race within the American Theatre.She has presented her research and organized panels at numerous conferences including IFTR in Seoul, South Korea, LMDA, ASTR, AAA, PTRS, and CAATA and has given lectures at Villanova University, the University of Maryland, and Temple University. She received a BA from the Univ of Richmond, an MA from Villanova Univ, and is ABD PhD at the Univ of Maryland.#DEI #diversity #culture #talent#podcast #AFewThingsPodcast