112: *sung like Hilary Duff* "Why not start a little cult?"

This week on the pod we're talking about Amanda's puppet-making class, AI boyfriends, The Bling Ring for some reason???, Ash's time as a counselor at a grief camp for kids, and the undisputed best movie of all time "THE LIZZIE MCGUIRE MOVIE!" and of course, Hilary Duff's illustrious singing career. Now that's what I call podcast!    Contact us at: [email protected] Instagram: @nowthatswhaticallpodast TikTok: @nowthatswhaticallipodcast Patreon: Patreon!   About the Hosts Amanda Holland (she/her) is a comedy writer and producer based in Los Angeles. She has written scripts that have been featured at the New York TV Festival, Austin Film Festival, Frameline San Francisco International LGBTQ Film Festival and more. She's even won awards such as Best Short at the ClexaCon Film Festival and Excellence In Inspiration at Buffer Festival in Toronto. But when she's not writing, she's often wondering... Do baby pigeons exist? Like, have you ever seen one? Instagram: @awkwardholland TikTok: @awkwardholland Website: AmandaHollandWritesThings.com Ash Perez (he/they) is a writer, director, author, and producer. A queer first-generation Cuban, Korean, and Filipino American himself, Ash is focused on telling underrepresented stories in every genre. He has written for ABC's "HOME ECONOMICS" and Freeform's "GOOD TROUBLE." In 2020, he served as a Senior Producer on the Biden/Harris campaign, where he co-directed and co-produced "Michelle Obama's Closing Argument."    Most recently he created "New Guy Tries" for 2nd Try TV which follows his exploration of manhood as a newly-transitioned man. In 2026, he is releasing an audio original rom-com, "Speak Now" with Simon & Schuster. On the non-fiction side he also has a book, "Read This For Inspiration" published with Clarkson Potter. Instagram: @itsashlyperez TikTok: @notashperez Website: ashperez.com