113. Dateline "The Ruse" (LESTER'S FIRST EP)

Kurt Money and Kateline discuss the shortest Dateline episode in history, "The Ruse," which aired Friday, December 5th, 2025. But even more interesting than that is that it is, in fact, hosted by Lester Holt! This is his first episode that's all his, and well...K$ and KL got questions. Questions for Lester, questions for the producers, and most importantly, questions for the all-timer Deputy Dinguses that dared show their face on TV. In 2018, Tom Perez Jr faced the most harrowing interrogation session with the most questionable of tactics...and a crime hadn't even been committed yet. Who is to blame? Is it the—lol, who are we kidding. The dinguses are to blame!! Give a listen to a fascinating case and our thoughts on where they went wrong and how it went right. Spoiler: The dog, Margo, is the all-star of the episode.