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EPISODE · Jan 30, 2026 · 54 MIN

113. You’re Allowed to Want More Than Survival, with Iconoclast founder, Sarah Smith

from AND/BOTH Podcast - Real Conversations, Shared Experiences, and the Community You've Been Missing

Burnout doesn’t always show up as falling apart.Sometimes it looks like holding everything together for too long.In this episode of AND/BOTH, Ashley sits down with Sarah Smith — founder of Iconoclast Innovations, mom of two, and self-described iconoclast — for a deeply honest conversation about motherhood, mental health, and rebuilding yourself after burnout.Sarah shares her experience navigating postpartum anxiety and depression during the pandemic, being laid off multiple times, starting a business while pregnant, and learning how to advocate for herself in a system that often loses sight of mothers after birth.Together, Ashley and Sarah talk about identity shifts after becoming a parent, why burnout is information (not failure), how community and support can be lifesaving, and what it really means to choose yourself and your family — even when it’s messy.This episode is for anyone who has ever wondered: Why does this feel so hard — and am I the only one struggling?You’re not alone. And you’re not doing it wrong.Connect with Sarah:Website: https://iconoclastinnovationsllc.com/Connect with Ashley:Website: https://www.ashleyblackington.comPodcast website: https://www.andbothpodcast.com/Dovetail® App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dovetail-app/id6744341822Instagram: @mydovetail.appLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyblackington/

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