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Jul 20, 2020 2 hr 4 min

115 | Sh*t Show

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Warning: Andy goes nuclear in this episode. We're talking last night's Horror Show at Extreme Rules. Rants aplenty. Can the gift of Jericho win Andy back? #BeMoreJericho.

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Right, we're on. I've collected my thoughts as we go. It's unexpected, I didn't think we were going to do this. I think if I don't do it now, so the whole reason why I've kind of said let's go to know it is because if I don't do it now I won't do it.

I'm very tired, a couple of hours late because it's dead silly really because it didn't finish that late and I was on a late today but I couldn't sleep. It sucks. I couldn't sleep and it weren't just because I was fuming. Because I wasn't fuming to that today but I just couldn't sleep.

I think it was an appointment where I was like I had an hour in bed and I was just kind of milling around on my phone and watching stuff on my phone and then I got out of time when I got up in 5 hours, I think that was 4, now it's 3. There's nothing you can do about it, you just get more and more panicked. That was the majority of it. So most of this, run city is maybe what the title of the show is, might be coming from a place of severe sleep deprivation.

I've had to throw it out, I've got to shoot loads of things before, so I'm sure I'm not that bad. I feel like I feel knackered but if I don't do it now I'm not going to do it and I feel like I need to get rid of so much. I think you do because I, don't mind that I left this morning to go to the office and I came back at what quarter to 8 this evening and you were still fuming. Do you know what I mean?

It's been a long day for you that hasn't it? I mean a lot of it is because it works as well. I think I'm just tired, that's what it is. You're cranky.

You're not cranky. So hello everyone. Welcome once again to ASEO Wrestling Episode 115. I think, yeah, I don't know.

And I'm sorry Chris but I'm nicking it, it's Extreme Meals. That's what we call in this show. It did make me laugh, that's a stupid dad joke, that's fucking piss on me. So let's get straight to the tweet, so I've got two.

So Chris Horik's the one, that Chris Horik's the one, has named the show. It was a show full of donkeys, Extreme Meals and then the gift that he's put there is of Meals which is very funny. And then actually I'll just go to J-MOM, I've seen a little bit of it but I quite like the Sasha ending. At least it was something new, even if it didn't exactly I'd up.

I put a cop uniform on that doesn't make me a cop, doesn't immediately become a cop. And watching Bray, Bray's much later, cut up to away from spoilers, heard it's okay. You've asked the question, hopefully you won't listen to this before you watch it. At least if I'm honest it's only been up for like 10 minutes then, I'm not really up, I'll give it any chance.

So maybe we'll re-vis it in a bit. Yes, see. Oh, what's that? It's sponsored out.

Okay, Chris Horik's sending us a YouTube video. I don't know what it is. Oh yeah, March card. March card, Christ.

It's 115. Yes, I think so. Was it that not 115 last night? Wherever we did it's not in our house.

Oh yeah, was it not 114? Was it not 114? I don't know either. I don't know either.

Okay, yes, we are on 115. Awesome. I've got a new name for the show. At the whole show?

Yeah. Okay. Shit show. From the horror show to the shit show.

Okay, just the show. I thought you were talking about changing our names. Oh, I didn't listen. What's on the shit show?

No, no, because we're a shining beacon in the world of WWE's fucking suspect. Can you tell where this is going? Guys, I don't know if you can or not. I'll try and rain it in a promise.

If I get going though, there's no fault in it. Oh, I like it when you get going. It's funny. I've got so much to say.

Do you want to go through the cards first? Or do you want me to go first? I think... Let's go through the cards first.

Okay. If I go first, then... I think you're going to just go anyway with us going through the card. I think it will just lead to that.

Yeah. It's inevitable. But at least I'll have a structured order of things and not just go in Ape Shit for no reason. So I'll get through the match card.

Uh-huh. Give our thoughts on that. And then... Then you'll ask.

And then if I'm not said anything at the end, so I'm not just fucking giving it out for an hour of... I'm not an incital man. Anyway. Kick off show.

Get the no ends. Beat's Murphy. Insane. You really like.

Good stuff. The irony is... Oh, sorry about the card guys. The irony is, it was supposed to be a really good match.

Yeah. I'm surprised it was on kick off. I can't even... I can't even.

I can't even. So opening the show. Yeah. Smackdown, tag, team, championship, Cesaro and Shinsuke beats the new day in the tables match.

Right now, this was fucking wild this match. And I don't mean that in a good way. I mean, it was like... It wasn't a bad match.

But just everything about it just looked insane. It looked rushed for the camera people didn't look quite know where they needed to be. And I was saying to you, I wonder if it's because most of the camera people are in front of the plexiglass. Whereas a lot of them, they were before, but they could move around behind the barriers.

But we've been being so close to the ring and that plexiglass has been there. It's like they're too close to get decent shots of certain things I found. But the match I thought was finding didn't predict that ending at all. I think we got most of these wrong, didn't we?

We did our predictions. What do we got? We got everyone wrong. Yeah.

Apart from Bailey. Yeah. Oh, and Drew. And Asuka.

Yeah, we did it all right. We didn't get Asuka. Asuka lost. No, she's not lost.

It's not that well, although... It's not outside. Yeah. Yeah.

I hope they fuck. Anyway. Yeah, so I thought it was all right while it lasted. It seemed to me like it was about three minutes.

I don't think it was. I think it went on for not like the loads of time. I don't think it was quite... It was like wildly quick, was it?

I thought it was quick. Like I was surprised when the final spot was great. I love me some shinske. Lacks Cesaro.

Can tolerate the new day in the same way that they can probably just tolerate doing the same character for 10 years or however long it is. Yeah, I was kind of procrastinating when we were watching that. I wonder if the new day is a little bit tired of the new day stuff? Sorry for Kafka.

Yeah, maybe. We've gone off for so long. It's tough to say, isn't it? Because they're doing so well with it.

Yeah, I imagine that they're happy to be together. And it's like strength in numbers really for those guys. Because the build looks like this new day brand thing. And probably, you know, I'd like something to get on because I'm going to be able to fall into part by now.

But you know, like it's... I don't know how like fulfilling it is for them anymore. Maybe it is. I don't know.

They don't really go anywhere. Like you said, outside of the tag team. Get try no cofiati's WrestleMania moment, which was great. But I don't know, it just seems very samey.

And I don't mind it, but I was thinking from their point of view and I was watching it. I wonder if it gets a bit boring. Yeah, I mean, I think there's always some more to do the same thing. And I do think that's a...

It's not one of my issues that I've got with this. But just like in general, it's the status quo. Like keep the status quo the same. Like there's no point in changing what's working.

And there is a really... What's the word? There is a kind of point to that. So like, because they're not in the title picture, you can do that.

You can keep the tag team exactly the same. And they'll be just entertaining week and week out. Whereas that kind of mentality of something like Romerain's gets in boot out. They'll be like anybody like Becky Lynch, like getting booed because they wouldn't sort of change it up.

So yeah, I mean, I was surprised that's as I know we shouldn't scare the belts. It's another less put to random people together and see if we can keep them happy with their shiny toy. So it don't really mean anything to me. I think the new day, are they the only...

Who knows, maybe? Oh yeah, the use of those, of course. I can't name another actual tag team. I mean, Mizamor and her actually be in a team.

You know what? They're not allowed. They're not attacking wrestlers, are they? No.

I'm just talking about the book. What's that? So many times. You're just talking about the tag team division is such an afterthought.

Yeah, totally. I think if it wasn't for people like the new day, I don't think there would be one. I don't think there'd be a Raw Tag Team Champions or SmackDown Tag Team Champions. Because we're the fuck with the Street Profits.

Are they still the Champions? Yeah, the Street Profits. Like, where the fuck with them? It doesn't get any time.

No. So how are you supposed to give a shit about any of them being Champions if they're not getting any time? It's just a waste of time. It's literally a waste of time.

You're wasting TV time. But the spot at the end was really good. I thought the matching general was good. I'll say this now because I'd rather...

I'm kind of thinking about it now. The irony of the show is the wrestling aspect of it was a higher quality than it normally is. Yeah. The problem with that is you're doing it on the show, the one show a year where that didn't fucking matter.

That's not what anybody was there for. No, true. We were there for the horror show and we got nothing. Next.

SmackDown Women's Championship, Bailey, against Nikki Cross. I thought this was a good match. Yeah. Like, really good.

I did for a minute think Nikki Cross was going to win, which go into it. I was like, this isn't going to last very long. It's going to be pretty obvious. I'm not...

And we know Nikki Cross can wrestle and talk about the chance she would have been needed to show off how much she can wrestle. And character and mocking Bailey's old character and stuff. So I enjoyed it. I've got to say I'm such a minority.

I just don't enjoy the Sashabali thing. And we've said this before, but I don't think I get it. I don't think it's... Right.

This might sound a bit harsh. I don't think it's the case that you get it or not. I think there's two things. From my point of view, there's two things to the reason.

Because I don't like it either. Just let me talk about what sound. Oh yeah. I hope that got picked up on my.

That was perfect. That was better than it. That was better than the gurgling wine thing. Yeah, no, that's a...

The sweet sound of a mixed drink copperberg on day night. Need it. Yes. Absolutely fucking need it.

So here's my thing with Bailey. I don't think she's doing badly. I don't think it's awful. However.

However. Right. It's still not good. If it wasn't...

So this is... And I truly believe this. I'm not just trying to be evicted. And I feel like, you know, like I'm having to go at myself here.

So this is kind of like my opinions on things. It's WWE. It's a completely different fucking style. Right?

Yes. And it's been crap for so long. For so long it's been poor. So anybody who comes out with a little bit of confidence really sticks out.

It's like my consire, really sticks out. Sasha and Bailey really stick out. Because one thing they've got is confidence. How about it's going through me?

Like whenever Bailey opens a mouth. And this is a thing that you wouldn't have heard when... I feel like I said this to you last night. I feel like when we first saw the Sasha baby thing, we got it on maybe like the worst night.

Where she was saying all sorts of cringe-worthy crap. That was just not intimidating and slightly. So she's trying to be an intimidating bully. And she's just...

I can't even remember what it was. But it was something that a five-year-old would say to you to a fact, so we're trying to insult you. That isn't from a council estate. Because they'll be able to come up with some pretty good insults.

You know, I'm talking upper class prep school five-year-old who's trying to insult you. Cringe-worthy. Absolutely, cringe-worthy. Because these people starved for what is actually good.

That's why it's getting so much love, because it's something that's like... It's people with confidence performing. Now I think it falls flat. I think it falls flat every time Bailey opens a mouth.

But I know that she couldn't have carried on as the wacky wavy bully flabler and flailing suit member because that would have got old and she would have got booed. She would have got booed. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

So they've changed the music, so there's no going back to that. This is it now. And part of me is upset by that, because I did think that was probably the most polished and finished off character that WWE has in the back burner. Like there's nobody I can think of who is finished to that degree, apart from maybe Charlotte Flair or the man.

And that's from everybody. Yeah. And Bray obviously. I think it used to be like right back when the four horsemen, whatever you want, came up.

I think it was Sasha Banks. Out of all three of them, she was... The three that came up, because Bailey got left behind. The three that came up, Sasha was the one where it was like, this is, you know, money really.

The shadow look down, she had the attitude down. It all worked. And I think that that lost it. So that's kind of got lost in the shuffle a little bit, the Sasha Banks character, because they've been bigger characters.

Whereas at one point, she was a big character. And I don't think it was strongly, I think it's got a bit weak. And she got overshadowed by a few people. But I do think that that was a marketable boss.

Yeah, I absolutely agree. And it still is a massively mad but I think it's the same character. It's the bitchy woman. I always said that.

It's the mean girl. And it's like, you know, I'm fucking sick of it. And I'm not going to, I'm not, we'll do something, or maybe Wednesday or Thursday, about the other show. I'm trying not desperately not to mention the other shows in this one.

But the other shows are in danger of certain people doing the same thing, who are supposed to be their big stars. Now, they need to get away from that. You can't just have some fucking clicky fingers bitch, like being you start up, because it's boring. We've seen it so often.

And that's what I think the issue is that I've got with it. Is that, you know, we always heart back to the Bailey Sasha, NXT Brooklyn match, which is arguably the greatest women's match of all time. I don't think anybody could come up with one better than that, unless they were going to throw the second one in the mix, which had a lot to it as well, making that easy cry. Brilliant.

But name a match either of them have done since. I'm sorry, this chairs, it does always create this loudly when I move. I can't hear it. Jesus, it's really hard.

No, no, those were iconic matches. The first one in particular that take over match, Brooklyn, was insane. It was so good. It was peak, really.

It was technically only one way they could go after that. But the main roster hadn't seen it, because NXT was so separate at that point. It's not anymore, but it was. So if you were on NXT, people who watched the main roster a lot of them, they didn't know it was for the girl you were.

So when you debuted, that was literally the first time a lot of them were senior. So the take over matches, you know, and that's why they came in. They were still trying to do it again. And it was just a bit damp and a bit like no one was asked and they tried to rush it very, really quick.

In the same way Sami's saying and Kevin Owens, we thought, I'll just rinse and repeat this again. It's going to be perfect. And it just wasn't because you're not given the same time. You're not given the same investment.

You've got to try and make something working in space in two minutes and nobody knows who you are. Which is ridiculous considering they've got a three hour long show or two hour and so I thought anyway. But yeah, I thought the match was really good. The bullshit ending, you know, always going to be a bullshit ending when you've got heels going on.

But I thought if I'm going to be fair, I thought Bayley was a lot more convincing as the heel in this situation. Maybe because Nikki's smaller. Yeah. Maybe it's because she's dropped the childish lines, the cringe worthy childish lines.

Maybe that's what made you better. Or we didn't have to turn it down. So when you turn something down, you can't hear what the same thing is. We've got it to a level.

We've put the perfect sweet spot. And we can just hear the commentary. Yeah. Which is great.

We'll get on to that later. Because I can't be asked now. I don't feel like I've got the energy. So this is so after this.

We've had two reasonable matches and then we've got two reasonable matches. From here, crazy is the only thing I can come up with. Like from this point, no, we're not an eye for an eye. But from this point, from the moment Bayley left the arena, it went batshit and not in a good way.

In just who the fuck is running this show? Who's got anything? What the fuck is going on? United States Championship match, Apollo Crews vs MVP.

You come up with this line that Apollo Crews didn't pass his pre-match physical. Right? From an attack from like a month ago. Yeah, and they've been plugging this match for weeks.

Yep. So that's, it never wants to my knowledge mentioned it could be, you know, it could be in jeopardy, but he might not be there. So obviously something's happened there. But what happened?

I mean, the what happened? I don't give a fuck about them. Yeah. I feel like I got something.

The what happened? I don't give a fuck. I don't care what happened. They've hooked the hung MVP out to dry on that one.

So he comes out, says he's won by forfeit, takes the belt and fucks off. And I'm like, oh, you know, maybe Sammy's ain't coming out here. I was thinking, also, I was like, returning stars, like, what's going to happen? You know, is somebody going to come out and challenge for him?

Obviously not. So obviously they want to keep Apollo Crews as a champion. But there was something going on where he couldn't work that show. Right.

So what'd you do? Oh, let's have MVP steal the belt. Fuck it. Okay.

What's the first idea? Group of 50 cunts. What's the first idea any of you can come up with? Right.

Well, send MVP out there. He'll make some shit joke about his career being great because the human fucking Lloyd machine, whatever they call him in these days, injures his opponent. So he's just going to take that belt that he designed, apparently, in the cave-based side, designed and revealed. So somebody else is a fucking champion.

And he's designing a belt and revealing it. You know, you think the guy's like, you fucking out your mind, which makes me think they're going to do Apollo Crews while the old one, MVP while the new one, and then the lava match. Okay. What kind of...

What was something? It looked like something had gone really badly wrong, but they just threw it on. How many fucking people backstage? I know.

There's fucking hundreds of econs, hundreds of you, and not one of you could come up with something better than that. It was a fucking disgrace. It absolutely disgrace. Just a waste of time.

What's the point? And again, pissing on a championship for a guy like Apollo Crews who needs a bit of a fucking kick, because he's a really good in-ring performer and can speak. So he's a big guy. You could do fucking standing moonsolts.

Like, what can Lashley do apart from pick a bit, drop? No, nothing. Lashley can't even speak. That's why he's with MVP.

Because he can't speak. So instantly you're pissing on another belt that you've got. So no more fucking cares. Let's move on.

I for an eye. Oh, hey. Hey. Jesus Christ on my...

I can't... I do not have the time to tell you all the things wrong with this match. Please try. Please try so it's not just my voice.

Right, okay. So like you said at the beginning, you're not... Great wrestling. Totally pointless.

Utterly pointless, because everyone's just waiting for the eye to come out. So they might as well, they might as well have just come out and just got in a massive scrap. A tussle where they're trying to reach. You know, Rollins came out with a pair of fucking pliers to extract the eye.

And then they have a pretty solid wrestling match that's quite entertaining. Totally pointless. Did a table come out or a chair at one point? He gives a fuck.

He gives a shit. Everyone's waiting for the eye. What's the last one with the eye? Who's eyes coming out?

Oh, oh. And we get Rey Mysterio. Got you in the same move. Same thing he did.

Don't know before he done it before Rollins. Do you remember? You did it before. You pressed his eye into the thing to make it bleed and everything.

Oh, but this time a ping pong rolls in his hand when he comes up and Rollins throws up. Fake, fake, sick. And he's like, I got a minute, Rollins. One, one, you know the stipulation of the match.

Two, you've already done that to his eye. So now why is it making you sick? Because I tell you what, we couldn't see the fucking eye boss. I don't know the fuck you could from all the way over there.

There was a camera right next to Mysterio could barely see it. The only time I saw it was on fucking gifts after the match. It was completely fucking pointless. It was everything about it.

It was pointless. You're either. If you're going to do it and you're going to make such a big deal about the opponent has to detach the retina or whatever the fuck they were saying. Or whatever the fuck they were saying of the opponent's eye.

They actually came out and clarified what the bank's everyone went, no. No, that is bullshit. There's no way that we're going to do that. The clarified, oh no, we are going to do that.

We are going to do that. And then that thing happens. And it just, for me, the match is not worth doing all the pretty good wrestling. But we did together before it.

It's a fucking point. It's a fucking point. Because all anyone's going to remember is the shit ending. The shit ending and Rawlins fucking spitting out some fucking cold sick from a joke shop.

Absolutely. On the money. I just don't know what's the same. What is the fucking point?

There was no point. I was going to say that because I didn't know that I was a ragsheet rumor or not. Oh, who fucking cares if it was a ragsheet rumor? They named him.

I can't remember who they are. Well, they named him. They said these guys are going to help us on WWE confirmed as well. WWE confirmed that.

Not only did you have to detach the retina, but that they were going to use CGI. So they leaked out that they were going to use CGI. Which wasn't used. Or it may have been, but it was pathetic if they did.

Use it. There's no way. Maybe just to update those floating asymascals in the sky. Bitch, please.

Get rid of them fucking floating things. You look like a fucking high schooler trying to come up with a project for fucking show and tell. It's awful. Whoever's fucking idea is.

It's been going on for years now. Whoever's idea is to put floating graphics of the askeface and all that crap. It looks like a five year old's doing. It needs fucking shooting.

I'd literally go around that room of the 30 of them. The 30 of them who fucking make decisions. Couple of clips. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

We get to Vince finally. Oh, I've ran out of bullets. So I'll fucking punch the fuck out of him when we bare fists. Just until I hear him cry and then I'll carry on.

I'm obviously joking. But those fucking graphics are ridiculous. They're awful. They've always been awful.

They'll keep them worse. They'll put all of this in there. Just look ridiculous. Obviously somebody fucking buzzes off it.

So let's bring the crowd in for a second. Oh god. Just before I got really go to town on a player, if I can be asked. Sure.

Right. They knew the stipulation of the match as well. And these fucking losers who are trying to get themselves over is not right. We've been saying it for weeks like all these guys are just trying to get themselves over.

They're trying to get a TV time. They're all wearing masks. We don't know any of you fucking out anyway. Right.

And they're like banging on the fucking glass. Like we love to do. Come back later for more of that. Looking at Rawlings, they say, what are you doing?

What are you doing? It's a stipulation of the fucking match you morons. What do you mean, what are you doing? He's just won the match.

You spoke to Detacharettner. That's the whole point of having that fucking match was to Detacharettner. Right. And you've got these spazs behind the plexiglass.

Fucking looking at him. As if he's done this horrific thing. Not like last time. When we actually got a bit of blood on the fucking step.

And all the spackers were clapping. Like, woo, this is awesome. All these absolute auto plebs. Just fucking with it.

And then he's like, oh, this is my time to shine. Whoever this prick is. This is my time to shine. I'm going to get in Cefraling's face.

Big man behind the fucking plexiglass. Always been sick everywhere, I was like, fuck him. He's just attached to one's retina. That's the stipulation of the match.

Shut your fucking mouth. Next referee. Right. Cefraling's gets DDT.

Obviously we know what the rest doing when they pretend to check on them. They give them times. And they say, you've got to beep. You've got five minutes left.

Or you've got ten minutes left. Or why don't you move on to this bottle? Vince says, because he's in my fucking ear the whole match. Vince says, look more to the hard camp.

But that's not what it looks like. So what's it looks like? He's checking on Cefraling's and seeing if he's all right after a DDT. The match rules are, you need to detach his fucking eyeball.

Can you continue after a DDT, Cef? Can you continue? Are you all right to carry on? Because if you are, I'm going to go and get the players for fucking Mysterio to use for you.

Are you okay to continue? He mouths it. The ref. Are you okay to continue?

You've got to pull out his fucking eye. What are you on about? And then this spucker behind the glass like looking at me as if he's fucking just killed somebody. When he's done the equivalent of cutting somebody and counting to three.

But he's a scumbag. Like, right, okay, go fuck yourselves. All of you. I had two fucking special effects guys, if that's true.

Right? I had two fucking special effects guys to dip a ping pong ball in red paint. You can fucking jump next. Ask her versus Sasha Banks.

Ends in a no-concess, apparently, according to that. All right, okay. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that.

I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that.

Ends in a no-concess, apparently, according to that. All right, okay. Well, I mean, what'd you say after that? So, it was, yeah, at the end in, I mean, they were going to, they're trying to beat the ultimate heels out on this.

So, they were going to do, you know, they cheat to win. That's the heel move. That's what they do. Ultimate cheat to win, you know, Bailey takes the role of the ref.

Now, I didn't hate it as much as some of the stuff I was reading about, you know, like some of the scales and grades that they do for this, you know, by the rag sheets and stuff. Like, I didn't hate the ending, actually. I was a bit like, or whatever. It's just going to end up on Raw tonight.

And then Bailey and Sasha will be arguing about it and all that, you know, with whoever tells him they can't do it, they'll be a rematch. I don't know what the rematch will be, whether or not I'll ask, we'll have that title back, or whether, you know, like, Sasha Banks will win it officially, maybe, I don't know. But, yeah, I didn't hate it. It was fine.

It was good match. No. No, yeah, no, honestly, I'm completely with you. So, the idea, the match itself was good.

Yeah. Both were the good workers. The idea was really good. It's the execution of it.

Again, that's pathetic. So, the ref, I don't know what the fuck he was smoking, but he was walking around with his dick and his hand the whole fucking match. He didn't have a clue where he was at. I don't know what he was doing with that belt.

Oh, right. So, like, Sasha, like, Bailey, like, rolls in. And the ref walks past her, like, you see, sort of tunnel visioned into the other corner with this belt. And then comes back and, you know, he did all right from when he got pre-misted in the face.

Bailey rips his shirt off, puts it on, counts to three. Everybody. But I think Byron Saxon was more angry about this, about this whole card than I was. And he was acting.

I think he was acting pretty... So, what would Joe... was cheese in his way through that? I think he had the ridiculousness of the night.

Every time the camera caught him, he was just smiling. Oh, he's pissing himself. It's because he's like, what the fuck have I signed on to it? I used to...

I used to have pretty good matches. I used to be quite respected. So, what? And now...

now I'm calling this also giant. What people are loving it? Because that's all those of the positive kind of tweets about Smogeron commentary. And I do agree with it.

I think he's very, very, very good on commentary. Which I think is why you need an extra wrestler to be a colour guy. Yeah, I agree actually. But an extra wrestler who has been at a certain level.

Sorry, Corey. Oh, yeah, no, we used to count. I'm going to get another count. Yeah, Joe, I got the very part there.

I would love to get the very part for each. We have to look at the very first guys. We have to look at the very first guys. We've got a bit of a little hodge.

So, it's the execution of it for me. Like, the fact that they didn't run with anything. It's another what? It's like, what?

They just go, oh, they're playing Sasha's music. So, she has one. What? What you want to be playing the music?

Why isn't somebody coming out here and taking the belt off her and saying, carry on? Yeah. Like, why is it? You get someone like, you know, like, Triple H or, you know, they'd be straight out.

They'd be straight out. I'll regal would be straight out. And be like, no. You know, you'd be starting the match right now.

And that was always a great moment. Like, obviously, it's there for a crowd, really. But, you know, the heel cheats goes away. They GM comes out of Vince comes out and goes, no.

No, we're not messing around like that. You restart the match right now. And then Big Pop and Mcaryon and whatever. It's just, it's the execution of things.

I do think they are getting really lazy with how they think about things. Because I've seen so many interviews with Triple H when he talks about like the psychology of wrestling and how much the psychology really means a lot. And I don't for a second know probably 5% of what these guys know about psychology. But I know when to me it looks like people are fucking half-arsing something.

And I know when someone falls flat and it's fucking us. And that is start to finish this show. It's just no effort whatsoever. It's like, right, you've got something here which is extreme rules.

The horror show, right? You've called it the horror show so you can justify having a swamp match and this eye for an eyeballics. You could have called it fucking Saturday Night Live. Oh yeah, there was nothing about it.

It was horror show. Like, it's a swamp match. It's fine. But that could have been on any pay-per-view.

That's what Bray Wyatt does. You know, he did something like that on WrestleMania which could have quite easily have been a horror show match. But yeah, it was nothing horror show. Everything's very thrown together.

They've not found, in my opinion, their groove. The closest WWE had to their groove was around Money in the Bank of Time and just coming off of, like WrestleMania was okay. But Money in the Bank, to me, felt like they've got it. They found that sweet spot.

I mean, humor. A bit more film stuff. But mainly humor. Like, let's make people laugh and let's play around with, you know, like the certain, what else can we do?

And it felt like we were getting somewhere and it's regressed wildly since that point. Like, it's not gotten better. It's just kind of gone worse and worse and worse since Money in the Bank for me. Or without a shadow of doubt.

But it's like a chicken in and out of everything and trying to get back. You know, since they, what happened, I believe, is they probably were up for doing some more creative stuff. You know, like they did at Money in the Bank and a few shows leading to that, whatever. But then they saw the AW, sorry to have to mention, I need to want to.

They saw the AW people having a fake crowd and they brought the fake crowd in. And then they've just gone back to normal to try and do normal shows. So they've not put any effort in. They've not tried to think outside the box.

You can argue that, Oh, an eye for an eye they tried. Yeah, but they just, it was normal match that just had a ping pong pong pong pong so it was under the end of it. Like, it really wasn't, it didn't have any effort in. No, to go back to the eye for an eye for a second and I forgot, I forgot even fucking mention it.

They have that Charlie Keruso given up there you later in the show saying is basically, he's going to be OK. Yeah, his eyes fine. His eyes fine. We can pop it back in.

It'll be, he should be able to see again. So not only, right, not only have you not delivered on the idea. But you've also crossed any thoughts that he might have a fucking long term injury. fucking long term injury.

There's nothing horror show about that. Oh he's fine, I was fine. Don't worry kids, he's alright. Yeah this is my issue and we'll get to this.

We'll fucking get to this because I'm working myself up. Up next we've got the WWE Championship match so it's McIntyre against Ziggler where Ziggler gets to pick the stipulation. Yeah I went to bed about a minute before it ended I think. Yeah so we had loads of theories on this.

Thought it was gonna be the handicap match and someone else was gonna come in that was the only legitimate way Ziggler could win. A Brian actually told you not saying that was a fucking bad idea because I said just before the match that I had on Twitter he's slight and certain up on impact again sorry to drop another name. Quashed up because I literally you were the one who said it. And the cat match but you maybe have someone else with him.

If you can choose any stipulation he likes the logical thing to do if you're the heel player is you make it as hard for them as possible. They either have hands tied behind their back or as an extra person on their side and got beat both of them and McIntyre does. Yeah you know it's gonna happen and it would have been a bit more interesting but Ziggler stipulation was like and what? It's gonna be an extreme rules match and I was like are you fucking kidding me no please no and he's like but only for me I was like oh what a waste what a waste.

It was a waste. I mean that 3MB handicap thing would have been fucking men where ginger and Heaths later are on Ziggler's team and they take the belt and then that's the new stable why not you know he put his side with impact. That's what makes me think that's what was that was the original plan and then Heaths later signed for impact. Yeah but that doesn't really pack as much of a bunch if it's not both of them but instead instead of doing something like that like tiny times behind his back or tying both his arms and his legs up.

Hock-dying him. Yeah why not? Well yes if you choose a stipulation you can agree whatever you choose. Whatever you want.

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