116 • Malibu 1971/72 (3/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 3: Is There a Permanent Ego?

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is Not Malibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé 3/7: Is There a Permanent Ego? Is there a permanent ‘me’? Unless I am free from the vulgar, I will continue representing the whole vulgarity of man. I lead the usual life, along the small river, following that current. I am that current and ‘the me’ is bound to continue in that stream, with millions of others. I’m not different from those millions of others. When you say, ‘My brother is dead,’ and ask whether he is living, as a separate consciousness, I question whether he was ever separate from the stream. There is no permanent self. If there was a permanent self, it would be this stream. Realising that I am like the rest of the world, that there is no ‘me’ separate, I can incarnate if I step out of the stream. Change takes place away from the stream; in the stream there is no change. What happens if you step out of the stream? The stepping out is the incarnation. When the man of the stream steps out and looks, he has compassion. - The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust. Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week. Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’ Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit:   Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.org The Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.uk Brockwood Park School: brockwood.org.uk Newsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletter Donations: kfoundation.org/donate Get in touch at [email protected] Please consider leaving a review, which helps the visibility of the podcast.