117 • Malibu 1971/72 (4/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 4: Masters and Hierarchy

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is Not Malibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé 4/7: Masters and Hierarchy Q: One finds in various teachings the idea of masters, conscious entities who work for the good of mankind. Is there a reservoir of wisdom? Do such entities exist, or does man want to have myths? There is the reservoir of goodness and the reservoir of violence. Is there something which is not these two, that is beyond these two? Is your mind capable of not being held in the reservoirs of goodness or violence? When you understand these two opposites and go beyond them, meditation is not in terms of vision or action, but the state of silence which then is operating, an energy which then flows. That energy has no character. When one asks, ‘Is there a hierarchy, a master, a group of evolved entities?’ you are asking from a point of view, or from desire, from hope. What is the relationship between the current of vulgarity and that which is beyond and above the opposites? - The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust. Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week. Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’ Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit:   Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.org The Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.uk Brockwood Park School: brockwood.org.uk Newsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletter Donations: kfoundation.org/donate Get in touch at [email protected] Please consider leaving a review, which helps the visibility of the podcast.