#12 - "Do the job and convince people"

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In this one, Christian talks with Stéphane Péan, an international consultant in sustainable urban mobility and smart cities. Together, they explore why real change is more complex than simplified narratives, how trust and data governance shape public-private collaboration, and why cities may hold the key to climate leadership.

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