120 • Malibu 1971/72 (7/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 7: Religion and Meditation

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is Not Malibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé 7/7: Religion and Meditation Q: Is there any connection between the supernatural and religion? Is a religious life to lead a good life? A religious life is a life in which the self is not. We get caught in the so-called mysterious. But when the self is not, there is a greater, vaster mystery. Self-knowing is much more important than acquiring some kind of power. What place has meditation in religious life? Meditation is not control, is not a practice, is not an effort to achieve a glorious experience, or to remain in a particular state of consciousness. If the self is, the religious life is not. Can one dissolve the self? Why are certain human beings entrenched in the myth of Jesus or Krishna? Attachment destroys freedom.  Where there is freedom there is joy. It is that quality of mind that has this sense of joy and freedom that perceives. Meditation means freedom and joy to observe, without any attachment, without any partial perception. - The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust. Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week. Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’ Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit:   Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.org The Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.uk Brockwood Park School: brockwood.org.uk Newsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletter Donations: kfoundation.org/donate Get in touch at [email protected] Please consider leaving a review, which helps the visibility of the podcast.