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#120 Turbo Talk with Ryan & Will

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I was going to say to you, I've just started to knock back on the tobacco and weed. You know, I've been thinking about for a while, obviously I did it before, you know, in the COVID. In the COVID years, I was properly just going pure and I kind of took it too far, you know, took it too far. So I was like, I'm going to try again, but that's why I'm smoking a little paper then.

Yep. I'm curing a little paper. Yeah, nice. You know, you can smoke it like four ticks.

Yeah. But it just stops the tobacco. You know, don't get me wrong, it's not the same in a way as smoking a nice big joint because you can keep going at it and enjoy it and let it rest. You know, you don't really have the time to do that on a little one.

Yeah. But you know, you're just putting weed in you rather than tobacco, which ultimately, no, it isn't good. Yeah, no, definitely definitely much nicer for the body. And sometimes I've found it recently that just the tobacco is just not doing it for me.

Yeah, I definitely go three times where I really do not like the take like, I try and put in as less as I need. But I find some weed when it is pure, I can tuck it better, I can tuck it harder, like whatever. And in some way, I can't. So obviously it just depends something's work a bit better with and without.

It's funny you said that because I am just on my next batch. And this is when I'm making this decision. So it could well be that this stuff that I've just got isn't harmonious with with tobacco as well as a large I had, which I didn't have that feeling at all about. I had the feeling that you shouldn't do it, but I didn't have the feeling that this actually is quite gross.

Isn't that pleasant? Sometimes you got to figure out your own flavor. Yeah, I feel like on some of the more flavorful weed, I don't need tobacco with it. But some of the ones where it is just generally more harsher, I need a bit of tobacco to sort of kind of water it down, I guess, to have a bit more of an enjoyable pull.

It's almost like when you're going into your whiskies, sometimes they're fine by themselves, sometimes you've got to put an ice cube in there, or you might have to fluff up with a fucking bit of fizz. Yeah, I mean, I'm not the biggest whiskey man, I'm not sure I'm the biggest whiskey man. But I know exactly what you're talking about. Some whiskies you'll be like, yeah, make it cold and dealing with it is a nice pure way of having it.

But other times you just might need to put some fucking coke in there. Yeah. Put a bit of coke, put a bit of that. However, people drink their whiskey or even more water.

That's it. Just go down. And I suppose it all depends on the whiskey that you've got in front of you. Because if you've got some glemorengi or something like that, some really high-caliber shit or higher-caliber shit compared to bells, I mean, is anyone drinking bells neat?

Fuck me, I'm sure there are, but Jesus Christ. But you've got to be a coke or something. Bells is terrible. I don't know if you've had bell, you know, where you're going.

Back in the day. It is awful. But the same as vodka, you know, I just, it's actually just birthday not too long ago. So I bought some like, top tier grey juice and it came in like this steel casemate.

It's a really, you might be like, just behind me, you're seeing the bottom little square on my kitchen unit just there. That is like the top of the case. It came in really fancy. And grey goose is good vodka.

Like, again, I'm not the biggest vodka lover or even drinker. I'll drink it if it's the out of vodka and go and just to get a buzz. But this is French, grey goose if you didn't know. I didn't know that.

And it is, yeah, I literally found out there with A, because I just read the bottle. And but it's a lot more subtle than what you think of vodka being. It's a lot more drinkable. I'm sure you got exactly the same vibe of what the vodka is in your head.

It's what it is in my head. I think most people have that exactly same ethanol, methanol, but in heat, harsh vibe in the head of vodka, because they've probably done the same thing we've all done, frankly, much of it, picked itself in a situation, hated it and not really figured it out. Whereas grey goose mate, man, I haven't tried it yet. I've had to make this before and it's definitely not.

Oh, there is a big difference. Yeah, I haven't had it neat with vice, but I think I could definitely, you know, if you wanted to stay in shape and still have a little buzz on the weekend or something, I'm sure go over to vodka, you know, neat vodka and just sipping at it and just really enjoying loosening with it, rather than figuring out a flavour of like, you know, smell vodka or something like that, you know, it's on a different spectrum. So it's a way to go as well, do you know what I mean? Oh, definitely.

Great goose. Fancy shit. It's expensive shit. Yeah, that's not super expensive, but it's...

Yeah, but yeah, it's definitely done nice. Welcome ladies and gentlemen to tell us what's radio. We'll just hang in a little turbo talk and we're thinking maybe talking about the AI shit when we were before we came on, we're thinking maybe just flow with the idea of what's going on with AI and, you know, what's the future for it? What are the problems?

What are the problems? Probably the how it's going to help us just a little chat me. Yeah, definitely an interesting one. Like Ryan brought up, we're just talking about, you know, the AI picture creation and how you can you can get it to make pictures for you.

Probably all seen in pop up on the Facebook and Instagram, pretty crazy pictures and obviously going on to asking it questions and having it talk. We were talking, mentioning it on the conversation that Joe Rogan was having with Lex about it, hosting conversations for you know, potentially just general day-to-day conversations and they were even talking about having it talk for you, you know, if it's in your body and you just kind of give it a subject and set it free, but crazy to think about, yeah, writing emails for you and everything. Exactly, but you could just, you'd almost, this is where the problem kind of lies in it. We can get it straight away.

We can talk about a benefit, we can talk about a lot of other things, but it's like we're talking about writing an email for you. So will that in the future? You know how the way that machines, more cash points, more deposit boxes and that sort of stuff, changed the way banking was, right? So back in the day, back in the day, ladies and gentlemen, you went in with a book, you got a book, that was your bank account and you're going to, I'd go into Hally Fax in town before I went for a skate or something, I needed a tenor out, just to get mackeadees or something and I'd have been pretty good at it.

I'm not allowed enough money to treat myself to something else if I wanted to let you. But you'd go in with your book, it would say how much money you had in it, you passed over, they would tap it in the system and then stamp your book with the new number and then away you go. So the way, the same way that that's been removed now, the machines do that for you now, mate, all credits and it's all easy. Is that going to be the same thing that's going to happen to a secretary position or an admin position in a company that if you were a CEO, you would need to employ someone because you could just have this AI legitimately say what you're going to say and as long as you just checked out before it was sent every time, we have to just check it.

Surely that's going to remove that part of the sector. You know what I mean? Yeah, maybe you just have instead of a full-time secretary, you have like a part-time two day or a week or something and they do the whole week's worth, they just quickly check in the Monday, check in the Monday ais, emails and posts and whatever. Because you could probably say, hey, I check, you know, check all these ten cvs we've got here.

See who you think is the best candidate. I don't want to go for all these 20 cvs. Give me the top three. You don't even have to read them.

Yeah, but the problem with that as well, I mean, it's good and it's bad, but they would take in. So for example, surely, I mean, maybe they they can, it's so deep that they can figure out leadership. But would they just, if you flagged it and you went purely on education and grades and you kind of heavily went on that, that the AI wouldn't be able to, it would go, well, surely this person's A-style and everything, so I'm going to give them, they get the job, you know, or I'm going to put them forward rather than if you were to read a CV from a, because I would read a CV from a certain perspective, just because someone's got a degree. Yeah.

Because, you know, I've got a degree and I'm one of these people that wouldn't say that they're the greatest thing since I spread. You know, I mean, that's just, I've got one. I'm kind of happy that I did it, but I also kind of can see it from both sides that, I mean, is it that important? I'd say no.

You know what I mean? So, but would the AI see it from my perspective there by saying that actually deep down as a degree, what you get with a degree, you won't get with someone just being real working jobs, even if they're McDonald's, you know, really shit jobs that people don't necessarily want to do, you know, unless you're in McDonald's and that's your life. They played you by work there and it went particularly great. So I'm just talking from my experience when I was younger.

Do you know what I mean? Is it going to kind of see that? I bet you could just say, I bet you could give it key features of what you're personally looking for because obviously every job's going to be a little bit different. So you could be like AI, look through these, emailed in CVs, whatever.

I don't care too much about these grades or don't, I want to know about work history, how much jobs they've had and how long they've been there, or if they wrote anything about themselves, like what the fuck they're doing now, what they've done before. I'm sure you can probably get it to categorize them. Yeah, because what I'm getting at is the context of what someone's saying or presenting to you rather than actually what they're saying. Because what you put in a CV is kind of like when someone talks about themselves and bigs themselves up too much, I personally hate that.

I think it's big or wrong. When you've got to big yourself up and know that you're one of the best players that fucking, hopefully scavenger on the snares back in the day. But I'm the first person to be arrogant about that and say, yeah, I'm a good platformer. But I wouldn't necessarily do that in my job.

I think it's a bit vulgar. There's ways to play it. There's ways to put it in your cheek and say it. I just like what you're going to flag up to me and say, well, this is motherfucking sounds the most equal to ego to a piece of shit out of my life.

There's no way that I could interact with this person, so I'd put on a bottom on a pile. But everyone's kind of told to sell themselves. It's really weird. It's like watching your printers back in day, man.

I don't know if you've watched your printers, obviously. American listeners have got Donald Trump and that might have been a good one. We had Alan Sugar and I think maybe he was the owner, which still is. I think he was the owner of Tottenham Hospital Club.

He's a big, big time player. And people, you know, the show's all about bragging it. Really, man. You may be talking about your arse, making out you know something.

And they don't know anything. They know nothing, but if someone ends up with a fucking probably £100,000 a year wage at the end of it, maybe more. I don't know. But what I'm saying is, does it see the in between the lines that we can see?

I just don't. Maybe it can. Maybe it's an interesting one. But it's one of those things that I always think now, since stuff like that goes a long way.

I can a robot, can that AI see the minutiae or that sort of substance? It's a substance and it's not really like now, because it's obviously street smarts. It's just life experience. But it's not measurable.

Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely an interesting one because anyone can put on a CV, whatever they want. They can say, uh, they got this grade. They got this grade.

At the end of the day, only only half the employers are going to want to see this grade, see if it's real or whatever. And a lot of people, you know, you've probably got a large majority of people who just say, say what they think they need to put down. And generally, a lot of people just going to have to take what they said, like unless you want to, you know, that's a really important job here. Because you could just, hey, you could just, hey, you start the whole lot.

And is anyone actually going to question it? Yeah, that's it. Like when did, does anyone ever else for you to seize me? Well, so I used to work in Vista Village.

A lot of people from town would have probably worked in Vista Village because there was loads of fucking jobs there, 100 odd shops. So you're going to get a job in one of them. As a young lad, probably. So I was working in like a jean shop there and people come in and drop their CDs on account.

They're getting to whoever works there. And that was an old boy from a skate park, rolled a blader, bit of an arbed, I'm going to say, not a very likable character. He gave me the CD, walked off whatever. And he wasn't even a nice character to me.

So the room to give me a CV is probably like, not the smartest thing to do anyway. But it said like, he got the best grades in school when I just could not believe it. But like, I ain't going to investigate it. But I don't believe it.

And at all. But no one else, unless you know someone, you don't know anything. Do you know what I mean? So it's always an interesting factor in like AI, they're going to pick up on lies or not unless they're not unless it's important enough where you've got to investigate and that shit, like, you know, depends on the caliber of the job.

I suppose, I suppose even in like face to face settings generally, I mean, sometimes you know, you know, when you meet a fool, you know, someone's talking about the fucking ass. It's obvious. I mean, you could ask one question after they said what they said to know if they're telling the truth or not. Yeah, I'm talking about a skateboarder, what have you, you know, someone's talking about ras or not, you know, someone did it back in the day or skated, you know, could do what they're saying, do you know what I mean?

With no footage. Yeah, it's not everyone, you know, we're not able to make with a camcorder. Yeah. So some people won't have the footage, but what happens to often, you know, there's always, I always have that reservation that's like, well, I don't know if you've seen it.

There's nothing to tell me that you did do that. So it's just one of those things. Yeah, yeah. But if someone to say something about something I have no clue about, generally, they could easily like, you know, you'd easily lap it up and you'd buy it.

They're like another little other person. You would just, so I'm saying that we've got to balance because we could work, you know, we figure out now some C between the Cb. But if someone's saying it's your face, it's hard as well. So maybe the AI might get a see it better than you can.

Yeah, that's it. What, uh, what other things do you think AI could be used for other than like, obviously email is just a list goes on for like what jobs could you could potentially use it for, but like, well, I think, uh, it's, it can be used for a lot of things. I think, I mean, on academia, I think it's going to screw it like I said, because it could just write anything. But, you know, it's from a journalist, you know, journalist could probably just say a few things.

Yeah. And that's like, right about, um, right about US politics from a, uh, democratic persuasion, you know, just kind of just say it. So it's going to talk from that side and give it a couple of things to hit. Yeah.

You don't have to worry about writing anymore, mate. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then not, well, it's not you.

You might love writing, but the New York Times is cheaper for them to hire, uh, chat, uh, chat GPT, then to have you on the, on the books and paying you, I know, our, I can generally probably get paid fucking decent wage, mate. Yeah. I mean, it might be per column, but on average, I'm sure they'll be making 50, 50 grand a year plus. Yeah, it's definitely got a good money.

And you definitely right companies can spend less money and get the same, same outcome. Why not? Especially with, uh, how money and everything's working these days. Like, things like this could even be better, like chat GPT or whatever isn't going to stick to it.

It's not, it's not going to have a holiday occasion. It doesn't, it doesn't need holiday. It doesn't need holiday, mate. It can work Saturday, Sunday for, um, yeah, can work to attend.

Yeah. Make it probably just have one, one person just double checking everything it does. So they don't even need to type anything and they can ring their old boy up or tell, tell him face to face what they're expecting. Yeah.

Yeah. You'd be the AI manager. Yeah. You need one of them.

Yes. Yeah. Ventures are endless. Yes.

They certainly are. It's, uh, it's a weird one because we know, we know we're kind of going down that road, you know, if you listen to Rogue and, you know, he, and people like Lex Friedman that he speaks to, which he was, is a AI specialist. We know that it's, you know, we're already, we've got a phone. We already are, you know, um, how would you call it?

You connected, you know, we are cyborgs in a way that everyone's got a phone. You kind of need it now. You know, the pressure of life and where you need to be and the jobs, my job, especially if I didn't have people maps, I'd be fucked. Yep.

I know losing skills by not kind of re-emaps, everything like that in the same way that you'd used to back a day with the Atlas and open up if you're going for a drive and that sort of shit. But, you know what I mean? It's, uh, it's one of those. If I didn't have it, you'd feel naked.

I mean, don't get wrong. I'm actively trying not to have too many things on my phone that I use. I mean, like I think I've said on the previous podcast, I've got, you know, I don't do Instagram. I don't do Facebook anymore.

Like they're not on my, I've still got a blog over my computer. So I need to go in, case, you know, C-Shit. But it isn't my, it isn't my go-to thing anymore. I just, well, I've got YouTube and I do exactly the same, I can still scroll through YouTube just the same as I can do Instagram.

But it's a work in progress, mate. It's a work in progress. Yeah, and that's it. And I've been, I've been trying to be similar, just keeping myself actively busy, uh, most of the time I just kind of, I'm on the WhatsApp chat, keeping updated with the guys and a couple other mates.

But mainly just, I'm just trying to document things for myself other than other people. So, from stuff, I'm just taking a picture, most of the time I'm just taking a picture. I'm not opening it on Instagram. The money putting stuff on there that generally friends are going to be like, ah, cool, nice.

Yeah. So, yeah, it's definitely keeping yourself in life and not in the AI zone of just any phone. It's like you're saying with the WhatsApp group and talking to your mates, it's like, my social media now is, you know, is turbo. Yeah.

The turbo chat, you know, I can just send, you know, when I was away in Iceland, just when I was in the pubs, just sending some beers out, just, you know, this is what's going on. And, you know, try not to be overbearing and kind of, you know, keep not your asking for recognition in the same way. Because you can't get the likes, I suppose, but it's not, it's because it's your actual mates. You're just saying, check this out.

Yeah, really, the vibe, you know, this experience, you're not really, it's good bad in different or whatever, but it's at least you'll send it to people that you wouldn't send the shit if you didn't think they were slightly interested, you know, so it's that sort of thing. And you're in a safer space doing that to your, to a WhatsApp group than you are to Facebook, because those sorts of social media, they're wrong. I'm not shitting on everyone to use it because I think a lot of people do use it in a very healthy way, and they can use it in a passionate way and in a creative way, you know, there's ways, there are definite ways of using it. I do think a lot of people do live vicariously through it, and I don't think it's the healthiest thing to do, you know.

Yeah, definitely something you can get sucked in on. Definitely something to not worry about if you've got friends, yeah, shouldn't need to rely on any sort of that to live life or have fun. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Keep connected to your mates, and you'll be fine.

Do you know what I mean, as long as you're interacted with your mates? Because that's what, that's kind of what those things were for in the first place anyway. Yeah, you know, obviously they're just, it's just advertising, right? It's data collection and advertising, which makes the world around with it, but initially it was, I suppose, maybe, yeah, yeah, I think probably initially the idea was for good.

And it just was like a tumbler back in it, you know, that's what I thought it was going to be like. Yeah, I remember, I remember even when, at uni, when everyone was mad into Facebook, that's this before a lot of points to him. Yeah. And I didn't go on to it, like I held off for a long time, because it was just, it was one of those things, I was like, I don't, you might have missed out on some things, but a lot of things is like, I'm going to put your phone number.

I don't really, I don't get why we need to connect this way. But then when people start organizing groups, you know, like, you know, if someone's got a birthday that you're going to, you know, create a group to, to organize and it's an event and you've got the time, like location, all that sort of stuff. So, I get it. It's a good tool for a lot of people and for businesses now as well, it kind of works.

But I think WhatsApp's almost just taken over that now. Yeah, I think, you know, everyone's got WhatsApp surely. Like that is one of the most used apps going. It's got to be.

It's a strange thing. It definitely isn't what it used to be or what it was originally I felt like it tended for. Yeah, I suppose it is your perspective on it and how you use it. I mean, but it's like, I'm sure if you're listening to us talk right now on this fucking podcast, you're probably not one of the 80% of the people that probably wouldn't get it.

Yeah. And it's the same, you know, even using Instagram stuff like that, you know, there's a lot of samey, samey people out there, whatever they don't even know, if they're doing anything, but they're not seeing it in the same way, then they're really not, they're just doing it because they're a slave to the system and they're just posting it because they have to do it rather than sharing an experience or sharing something that isn't saying, look at me, it's saying, this is cool. Yeah. And look at me and this is cool two different spectrums.

You know what I mean? Like that is massive. That's all. If you don't need to like it, you don't see it cool, whatever.

But you don't need to try and force it and say, oh my God, I had the best experience. Well, did you? Did you really? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But it's yeah, the possibilities for AI are endless mate. Like it's, it's crazy.

Definitely interesting on like the design inside of sort of things. Designing things side is ridiculous. Because that's where we go. That is where it transcends.

That's where we find it's almost, I don't know if you said about before, maybe it's like, if you asked AI how the pyramids are made, right? Right. No, I haven't, but that's, that's, that's really interesting. I don't know if you said that exact question, but I remember you saying something about if you ask them a question about past.

Yeah, right. They might, I'm just going a bit more specific there. Would they, do you know what I mean? Yeah.

They had all the information they could grab from and it wasn't all dictated to by different bias. Correct. Yeah. That's what I'm getting at.

Would it be out of decipher and say, does it take, because how do we know does it take from quantity of information? Yeah. Or quality? How does it know the difference between quality and quantity?

Does it take Graham Hancock, for example, does it take what he says for gospel more? Or does it take what Michael Sherman says, you know, skeptic? Where does it, how does it decipher that? Does it go balanced?

Can you tell, you know, do that's basically what he says. Comes up with multiple answers, depending on where you lie, I wonder if it gets you like two different answers or most people think this. Mm. Because that's what I would say.

Like, if, if the internet is going to swayed to the system, if, you know, now definitely is back in the day, it's a bit more wild west, but definitely now. So you would predict that the AI would go with, it's, it was made by people, slaves over a long time, 5,000 years ago. Yeah. Right.

But if, if you were talking to a lot of new age, you know, not scientists, just individuals have explored the idea of how they're built. And also geology and, and what the weather was at certain times and the, you know, all that sort of stuff. We're pushing it back, aren't we? We're saying the pyramids are more closer to, to be 11,000 years old.

That's, well, this thing is in particular. So does it take that information and overpower the, the original, you know, shit, Egyptology shit or you know what I mean? It's like, it's a hard one. It less, it's a new input, you're biased in it.

And then that, then you're not really getting the right answer. So it's, do you know what I mean? It's an interesting one. Yeah.

I wonder how many, yeah, gonna have to sit down and ask you some questions, wonder. Maybe that's the, we do line up mate. Well, you know, we'll have it ready and wait. And I don't know how it works, it's just like a search engine or something or what, but we can do a little turbo special.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I just put it together. But yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's one of those, Joe Rope and something's the best in terms of how he thinks it's kind of, kind of evolve. It's almost like we're in the cocoon state sort of thing before the butterfly.

Yeah. And you won't, you don't know, a monkey didn't know it was going to turn into this or or she looked through whatever the puppy were originally didn't know it's going to turn into the next thing. And it just keeps, it keeps going. And this is just another life form that you wouldn't know, even it could have, it just, but it does then exist.

And it just keeps going in that direction. And then we turn into the Grey Aliens, which time travel is and there you go. Well, I thought it was an that though, mate, like the, is it just bullshit? Is it kind of someone with grace, the picture of a grey and right now, is it because of science fiction?

Is it because of it's human enough, but different enough? I mean, we would, we're just kind of painting the picture that yeah, they would be paler. They would, they would just be skinnier because they wouldn't, why would they be fat? You know, all these sort of things.

Or is it the fact that that is legit? And they are a life form that's going to be similar because that's how life works. It's, you know what I mean? It's, it's, there's so many variables, variables to play.

But it's such a good, you know, like what do you think? Honestly, it's hard because there are like certain people who say they see something on alien or whatever they've been abducted. And this is what they believe they've seen. I think it's probably one of those like embedded memory sort of things where like so many films, so many, you know, fake, fake alien films and all this sort of shit have just like dictated this and just like the first thing you start from Google and alien is going to be that grey head or like the shape of that head, the shape of that body.

And I think it's just like embedded so much that it's an easy one to say. But like, yeah, I don't think there's any real evidence behind it as far as I'm aware. But yeah, the only thing I can kind of give my energy towards, and this is fucking loosely loose as fuck because then we're talking about time travel. And then it's like, I kind of, I get people can do it.

But if you do it, there's no point in doing it because you're never, you're just, you're, there might be a way of jumping in time. You know, I mean, just like if you went out of orbit and when, you know, stayed out there when a certain speed, basically, if you went anywhere near the speed of light and came back, you could have, you could have, you literally could have gone 50,000 years in the future. Just just relative, just relative to coming back. You could, you, so that's all.

But what I'm saying is, that's the only thing I can think of why we're talking about grades because we're talking about what would happen to a human face in the end. You know, your eyes might get bigger. You probably wouldn't need to cut around your eyes. It would go black because it's better to have all of that than anything around.

You know, you would have, you probably wouldn't have sex organs because it's, but that is, it's all speculative. It's all about like what we think of what would happen in evolution rather than actually think what would happen, like our own evolution, right? And that's why, that's why I'm saying it's time travel because it's ourselves. You know what I mean?

It's just ourselves doing it. That's the only way I can back up the gray argument because otherwise, it's like the likelihood of them looking like us is fucking slim to none, right? Maybe, I mean, maybe the likelihood is high because there's so many stars, but I think it's fuck me. Surely they're not going to look like us anyway.

They're going to be squid or something, don't they? Yeah, they might know, yeah, they might know, you might already have like a body, who knows? It could be energy. Yeah.

It could be anything. It's something like, I was thinking about this year, where they're like, we always look for the oxygen, we look for water, we look for water, we look for that sort of shit. And recently we've found out that in Antarctica underneath the ice, there's starfish and shit that live off of methane. Yep.

Not even covered up to live like plants they live off methane. That is their life force. And we didn't know that. So we were always speculating that it was going to be oxygen to be found.

But who's to say that mercury, given long enough in contact with something else, in a pool or something, doesn't do the same thing as putting oxygen, hydrogen together. Do you know what I mean? Like, you don't know something's probably going to change and it turns into, and then you get fucking the boy from Terminator 2. Yeah.

I go from Terminator 2. That's what they evolve into. Yeah, fuck. Yeah.

I know. Yeah. That's it. And I'm open to it.

I'm open to all of it. But I need some form of evidence to roll with other things. But yeah, evidence is key and a lot of information said. And I think the best way to be is to be open with it.

I mean, like, you've got to be the best, the healthiest place to be, well, this shit is to kind of want it to be true. Like, but know that you do want it to be true. Like, I mean, me and you are exactly the same. Yeah.

It'd be cool if it was true, right? Oh, for sure. But we would, and you're excited about the notion of it being true. But the actual facts of it being true, we're a bit skeptical of, you know what I mean?

Well, no second mate. You know what I mean? Just because you wear, like, you've got some wild hair and you wear some weird fucking like, rope necklace with a jewel on it. And it's like, you're the only old boys that are really talking about this and selling this on Netflix.

I think like, there's no normal old boys selling this on Netflix. It's only the old boys with like a fucking yin-yang fucking emerald on the thumb ring. You're Tom DeLan or something. Yeah, Tom DeLan.

Yeah, exactly. Tom DeLan saying that, like, anything's real, but can you talk about my production company? Yeah. Like, yeah, it's good shit though.

It's good shit. So where do you think it goes, then mate? Just speculate. Throw some shit at the wall and go like, crazy scenario.

Yeah, it's going to take over like more than 50% of any sort of electronic database businesses and probably way more. It's going to have to do, right? I think so. I think.

Eventually, eventually it's going to do that. Like, quicker, quick changeover. We call up a bank, you call up any sort of decent business. They got automated called press one for this, press two for that blah blah blah.

Well, now it's going to be an AI person. Hey, hey, welcome to blah blah blah. How may I help you? Well, all those fucking options has given you.

There's no one needed on line one, two, three, four, five. There's probably only one line needed after that person. And this person's probably going to fulfill everything needed or put something that's needed. Yeah, so that job's gone.

That job's dusted. We already use like 50% all the supermarkets have self service and they're getting better and better and better. So all eventually they're going to need is just maybe just one person in an office somewhere who can, who you talk to that instead. Oh, yeah, I fucking, I put my own bag in the sorry or I scan this twice.

And they're like, beep, instead of someone coming over there and doing it. They already know that you got it. It was weird. I was in the capital on the other day with Ashley and we were buying some shit, do some like snow shit, basically some cheap like underarmous audio.

And I've been in the capital that many times, mate. I mean, it's not like my go to, I don't know the scene. I'm not all those geezers, but it fucking tells you to put the product in the bin, right? Next to you.

But it knows the product, mate. There's no scanning. They didn't mean to scan shit. We just put it next, just literally put it in like the, like your, the basket area, but it's, but it's kind of like, you know, it's more of a bin.

I mean, it's got sides and everything. You put it in there. And it knows that it's fucking yeah, men's leggings or something, you know, men's ski, ski trousers. Yeah, that's like, it's like, well, hold on a fucking second.

It can't surely just do that on weight because how can it move? It's really electronic chip in it, but it doesn't take the tag off. Yeah. But surely that'd be expensive to put in to the product, mate.

I mean, if you weren't going to take it back, I was just, I mean, maybe it's a really simple thing when you get some experts on the tellers about a ship, but it's, it was just a really weird, it's like, this is the future. Like you're going to just, you're not going to need to fucking scan anything to pay for. Yeah, already know you got it. I was in the, I was in a fucking test go, you see, every day, and just buying the fuck was I buying?

A little bit of lunch. It was a couple of packs of beef and something else, maybe a roll or something. Nice. And, and it, the scanning was bullshit, man.

I'm a good scanning. I worked in a retail game. I'm a good scan, I can scan shit. If it isn't scanning, I know it isn't me.

And I was just like, this is shit. This is shit. This is just, this is lame. But it's only going to, but the catholins just showed that it's, that's where it's going.

It's not going to, it's not going to need me to scan. And then like you're saying, it's not even going to need someone to kind of come over and deal with you. It's going to figure, it's going to figure that out as well. Yeah, it would just know, like you're saying, it'll recognize something or they'll have what normal, the normal problems will be about in forever.

Although I did see the bottle of water while I was doing that as well. I had a bottle of water, bottle of heavy and under my arm, mate, you know, just, you got to do it. You know, it's a classic. And I did it with two, two of the staff members were literally like two foot away from me.

And I was like, this is, this is always too perfect because there's like, you could steal anything in that in that moment. Oh yeah. Because there's no way that I can, like if I had a TV under my arm, they wouldn't even query it because they're so close to me. They're not checking up on me.

I mean, they're just, they're asking for the help. Oh yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it was a nice, nice little blessing to get a free bottle of Evian. And I think that's a thing already with like, I might be like an Amazon store or something like that, where you can just go in.

I think we took about it before you might have to have a card or something, but you just walk in and you grab your shit and you fucking leave and, you know, probably just knows it's been taken off a shelf or something like that and who's taking it through some fucking facial recognition or something. Yeah, it's crazy where it's going to go. Yeah, it's going to be interesting though, because maybe it's obviously going to have to, there's going to be a change, you know, where some people just fucking rich and some, you know, the poor say, poor, but at some point it's got to work around where like, things are easy, you know, you get to obtain your own thing that does its own thing for you. So maybe people end up having a bit more time on their hands, maybe.

Yeah, I think it's an opportunity to make money for people who can make money or have the drive to make money, but not a lot of people do make because you got to worry about your family, you got to worry about fucking bread on the table, feeding your kids, paying your debt, you know, that the systems, you know, really kind of forced you into because there's no other way of fucking living, you know, that's happening. So it's going to be opportunity for those people as well, but obviously they're going to happen later on. So it's harder, they're probably going to lose their jobs. The way you kind of, it's fucking is how it goes.

You know, those people die, which can't work because then the economy just crashes because you haven't got enough people to circulate money around or communism, really, because you would just then have to kind of just kind of everything, everyone and kind of benefits, if you will, because there's no one's got jobs, so you just look after everyone. So then you're almost giving them money to move them around. I don't even know that even, you know, we need to talk to somebody fucking knows about fucking finance, that actually works. It's just going to have to be a change in jobs.

I wonder if some AI businesses will give job opportunities because obviously their computer is pretty much so I wonder if they'll be more not necessarily manual labor jobs, but more like picking and packing, more warehouse-y style jobs, trucking jobs, loading jobs. Well, like, all right, well, people's done this. So we've got to get this packed up and on the truck and sent there and then rescanned in onto the AI, you know, just scanned into this warehouse and then the robot's going to tell someone else what to do. Maybe they're going to be the bosses or the men.

I think so. You just go up to them, he's going to tell you what to do, and then you get a text from him. I don't know any mail. Yeah, for a link, you know, scanning your head in.

No bad thoughts allowed at work, positive thoughts only. Yeah, scary. That's why I want to move to the woods, mate. Like, if I can get to the woods before this happens, I'll be a happy man.

It would be a really, really nice position from someone who's in the same year. We remember knowing that. Yeah. 3310, mate, was a fucking legit shit.

Oh, yeah. 5120. You know, that's a touch before my time as well. I didn't have a phone with that one with the aerial.

Yeah. Yeah. 3310. But it's like, that was a height of technology.

And it'd be nice in my lifetime if I could get rid of the phone, just like fuck off. You know, you don't need it. Yeah, just like a nice phone as a phone. Take a game of snake on there.

Oh, yeah, but snake too, definitely. Yeah. We definitely have to touch and again when we see some more advances in the technology, but it's crazy to think about. It's food for for me.

It's food for for. It's one of those subjects that we could, yeah, we could do a three-hour podcast on it, but it's probably better off listening to the lecture, even though he actually knows what he's talking about. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's it.

We'll have to do some more research and dig a deep in. We'll get Lex on the next one, mate. We'll just get him to explain the whole thing and figure it out. And then we can just move on from there.

Yeah, that's it. Well, John, it'll probably be on Rogue at some point in the future talking about Warhammer or something. Well, I doubt it. John, I mean, John, it's a Asian-ing-alim-gon Rogue, and Izzy.

I mean, he hasn't got enough free time. No, he hasn't got enough free time. Not even for Rogan. I mean, we're lucky enough to get you on a turbo.

Anyway, I think we'll leave it there, mate. Nice little turbo talk. Couple of subjects in there. Yeah, exactly.

Just to get you thinking, let us know if there's any thoughts you've got on it. Let us know. We'll see you next time. Yeah.

Nice one.

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