Need nudity. I cannot function trust. I don't get paid for this by the way. That's thank you You get paid a new to do pretty much I do get paid a new to you.
But trust me. This is gonna be important for later This is gonna be okay now. I still see a bra. Oh my gosh.
Look at theirs. She says a girl. Okay good. There we go.
There we go. There we go We got all right. That's it. Oh, there's one hiding under a blanket.
Wait a minute Is on the writing under a blank? I'm a I'm he show yourself to me on your shoulder show me your gorgeous nudity She's still hiding is she nude? Okay. Well, I can't see her.
She's hiding under the blanket. Okay. All right I can deal with this then I can deal with this. There's two four six eight ten.
Oh my gosh We're going for a record. We're going for a record as soon as early girl takes off her bra. We will have Ladies and gentlemen 12 naked breasts in the love lab ladies. Oh god damn it.
Thank you. You piece of shit You just you just talk about a plus. Let's make a real record. No, this is amazing 12 naked breasts in the love lab This is now I am ready for sure no longer Bad Jesus fucking Christ Yes, I do are you guys ready to do a show?
Well now that we have boobs we can do a show following show is for mature audiences only listen or discretion is advised And if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself Hello and welcome to the Pomerdip podcast a show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and lots of nudity recording live from the threshold lab in North Hollywood, California front of a naked studio audience hello I'm Kathy and I am company and this is I was like on board Happy you just need a you could or with it already you could push us over the top Gabby just show some day so So could you yeah, but not man titty. There are no rules. No, no, no, there are rules Yeah, no, and do you see this look here me making a rule? Come on, Kathy.
No, come on Give me some I see my boobs. I'm 51 years old and they dragged the fucking floor. I like it nipples pointing towards the floor Playing with them Oh My god, this is it this is Kathy show one 21 we've done is under 21 called it a palindrome show the what? Yes, yes, but what the fuck is a palindrome palindrome palindrome?
Well the numbers a palindrome is the same for the backwards one two one one two one That's all it's not a greater palindrome because not like one zero one or one eight one Which will be upside down backwards no matter how you look at it's the same you're free Just notice these things and just like snort a line of fucking meth before you come on Give him an example of a palindrome. That's a word as a word radar radar radar is a Dude is not unless you spell it dood that's what oh Jesus put a rope around her now. She's all she's like all like whatever and she's correcting my grammar. Yeah, miss amendment Yeah, keep fucking talking.
He was at the 13th amendment. You're gonna correct my grammar now Yes, by the way, I've been thinking about this for weeks when you talked about that last time that is not part of the bill of rights Let's rather Including Well that wasn't that was here. Yeah, that was here. I was good.
Oh my god. Kathy. Do you ever have one of those days? Yeah, I'm having one right now.
Do you ever have I mean, you know how you guys I can hear you over there Thanks. Do you ever have one of those? You know, we've done a lot of shows and and I swear to god. I'm not lying You know how you just get in them in your mind.
You're all there's that that show you're gonna do And and it's just gonna fucking explode. This is it's gonna be you There's just that show that you just know is gonna be the one that people go fucking a man You know what I'm talking about? I'm doing I'm a little scared Yeah, this is that show by the way. This is not absolutely not gonna be that show despite the number of breasts Despite the number of breasts it will be something that a large portion of our listeners will never forget Because of the breasts and and future.
I can't tell you about the experiment but we're gonna do some new And I would like the listeners to know that when you say I'm keeping the secret and I'm gonna You actually do it's not like you let your co-host in on what's going on. You don't let me shit No, you're just like you make me write it down on the board, but you're like you'll see Kathy I'm like score sissy What score say he films things that doesn't tell the crew Okay, I'm not okay at all not even close But you know I still like to keep a little bit of energy by the way He's doing a masterclass online. So if you want to learn about fucking how to make stories happen in film I want to never mind I'm just excited because you know what tomorrow is what's tomorrow squish fucking topia I've seen the prep in the patty months in just the you've seen the prep in the patio the threshold Patio and I have five amazing women who are going to get in bikinis 10 breasts 10 breasts and uh, and you know our little band Zua so we have a music video for a song called swishy things all about squishing wet and messy splashing all the stuff that Kathy just is literally if you could see her mouth puckering into her as soft but yes backwards I'm fucking she does not like the swishing but we are going to have swish. Hope you've been planning it for like three months It's been getting push and push so right now in the kitchen.
There's literally I think we have like 57 cupcakes already made We got about another 50 to be made 20 boxes of pancake batter spaghetti Food color gargantuan and it's just two kitty pools side by side a 3d camera in the middle of it And we're gonna do ourselves a mother fucking music video tomorrow and it's gonna be a mess I'm so glad I'm gonna be at work. It's going to be amazing in virtual reality You'll be able to put on the headset and see swish topia just it's gonna be it's gonna be something I don't really know what to say but when you tell me stuff like that I don't know I'm good. You guys okay? Do you have a question for the chat room?
What was the question for the chat room? The question was oh wait sorry. Hang on Hunger Wonderful day. Thank you.
It's a very wonderful day. Do you have a question for the chat room? Yes, I went with the tried and true You're stuck on a desert island. You get to take one toy with you and a person to use it on if you need to What would the choice be and why?
One toy and a person at first I was like so dumb. I'm like well dah Hitachi and I'm like, oh, maybe not electricity On my remote island, but do I have a pedal bike? Look he's smiling. That was a trick question.
He meant it to be that way. I have a pedal boat. Can my toy be 8,000 cases of Niagara? Sure.
No one pill. One final boner. No, I mean that would be separate and you might have that anyway, but one toy. It'll wash up on shore just bottles of sea allys and I'd be like I'm staying.
I'm staying. I don't know what anybody answers on that? Oh, yeah, too. Okay.
Do Ronlin said about a hundred feet of rope because even if you don't have people you can like climb things and use it to smudge your stuff. And hang yourself. Yeah, like Tom Hanks. Pussy it out.
Exactly. And then Accu went along the same lines as she noted hers before. A bull whip. To fight back the tigers and well because you could just travel through like a Indiana Jones on the whole thing and just travel around the jungle with it and if you don't have another person use it on the...
Well, I mean how big of an island is this? I don't. I mean if it's a big enough island you can go carve yourself a... Heck yeah.
You could carve yourself some spanking paddles and... You could strip some homilies. So a knife would be your... A knife.
Yeah, that would be a gigantic knife. Or a hatchet. So I could build shit and then do fear play by myself on my island where I masturbate with tract open oysters. You can have one person.
Yes, that's true. You did say you could have one person. Can I? Oh, I can't.
One person to use the toy. Now the oysters are going to be sad with the fuck. Hey, I wonder what's your name in the channel? Oh, geez.
I'm a person who's going to ask. I kind of went with all my titles tonight. All of them. Does anybody in the audience have a toy they would do on the island?
Participation? Everyone's just like, wow. We have tigers just blissed out in the fucking Saturn. Joe, you mentioned that on her during the show.
She's like useless to it. No, she's perfect for me. I'm just staring right at her glorious fucking vagina. Just with a big giggly smile on her face.
You don't have to dung her. I'm sorry. Oh, no. I'm in the chat room.
Oh my god. But her hunger is really odd. Currently, P.P. Mod, right Reverend Lord Unger.
Oh, did you go to see Reverend Horton Heat? I did. How was the show? It was good.
Just good. Dude, Reverend Horton Heat is awesome. Well, thank you for that incredibly climactic. Slim Jim play drums for a bit.
That was awesome. Mike Ness was drunk. Oh, from Social D? Hey, go away.
Hey, go away. Friends. So they were doing songs that people they like and having those people on stage. So Slim Jim being the drummer of the Stray Cat, so he plays the Stray Cat songs.
Mike Ness, they actually play more of solo stuff. Just like that. That must have been fun. That must have been fun.
Oh, oh, you might remember them from your days from your previous days. Shut the face open. Oh my god. Wow.
That is Hello 90s. Yes. That is super 90s. They had like two songs.
I can't remember what they were, but yeah, I played one of them. Yeah, I'm sure. Oh my god. Fuck it.
Let's move on. It's like our friends theme song. It kind of is. It's so friends.
What happened there, bookie? What? You were in a 90s sitcom kind of food. All right.
Well, this week's post is called I Want You To Do It For You. By Miss Lee to 10. I can't even. Can you control the speaking portion of your submissive?
Thank you. Jesus, they're like, I like chicken soup sometimes. And then there's cornbread, but not organic cornbread. Because it just tastes like shit.
God, my titties feel great in this rope. Thank you, daddy. It's like submissive spalding for caddyship. She's like, hamburg, no, a cheeseburger.
Jesus, just cover her mouth. Remember, I told you this wasn't going to be that show. If you can tie her up, you need to gag her too. You know, Christmas shopping's coming up.
I just literally has a tan over her mouth. I got some coupons that I haven't used. Maybe I'll go to Best Buy. Let's just get through the show.
14 minutes. You're right. It's not that show. 14 minutes.
Let's get it going. All right. Damn it. She wrote, it's hard for me to play with a stereotypical submissive.
I do not want to be served. I do not want to be waited on. I do not want someone who will only do things for my approval. I do not want to train someone into being my ideal version of a submissive.
Most of the time, I think they're pretty perfect just the way they are. I want my submissives to do it for themselves. My favorite submissives are crazy ambitious. They are on a constant quest for self-improvement.
I want people to approach me for play so they can challenge themselves. I don't want my submissives to struggle through my scene to prove something to me. I want people to play with me for selfish reasons, because that's why I play with them too. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay. All right.
There's a lot in here. There's a lot. I had a lot of thoughts. And I learned some things about myself.
I don't know exactly what that was. I surely understand. I hear the words of Kane from Laird Desod, who used to be like, I don't want to no broke down slave. Because he would make him go to school and better themselves.
That was one of the early lessons I learned when I first came into the lifestyle. When I thought, oh, a submissive is pretty much you are the leader blow. I just had, my views were not well-rounded, let's say, because I just basically had internet versions of submissives that you told people what to do when they did it. And I didn't understand the bigger picture that if you're going to have a longer-term relationship with someone, that really somebody who's just there to do whatever your bidding is, that can get boring, because you don't have somebody that's growing themselves.
At least that's what I thought, damn. But now reading this now, I have those conversations that I had with myself back then. And I've definitely evolved. Because at first, I'm like, yeah, I want people, I want the people I'm in relationships with, and have a power dynamic with.
I want them to be their own person, and have their own kind of agenda for their lives. You know, Mew and Bunny are knee-deep in school with education goals and very serious goals. And I love that. But there was something that she said that kind of made me hear other things that other people along the way had told me when she said, where is it?
But I don't want a submissive motivation to be about pleasing me. And that for me used to be exactly, that was my mantra, that I want somebody that is inspired by my bigger picture. I don't want to be the be all and end all of what their worship is about. I don't want it to be me and my cock.
I want it to be about seeing that I have a bigger picture, like with the podcaster, with serving the community, working at Threshold, those types of things, and that they are inspired to be of service to me to help me with that bigger picture. Kind of like my higher calling. Does that make sense? That kind of makes sense, yeah.
So that I wanted it to be, but then I had to start realizing when I see a line like that, I'm like, well, what if their kink is to be of service to me? What if their kink is to do things like actually submit? Because submission isn't always doing things that you like. We all know that from having to visit our family to going to work to any number of things that we don't want to do, but we do it because it is part of that greater.
Parents who are sick, they wake up sick, you still got to take the fucking kids to school. You don't want to do that. These are the things you have to do for the bigger picture. And so if somebody's kink is being of service and pushing themselves through things that they don't like for my pleasure or my desire, and I don't let them do that, I am being selfish.
And I'm not letting that person express what their needs are. Does that make sense? It doesn't make sense, but if that's not your kink, if that's not what you like. No, I'm not.
You don't have to allow them just because that's what they want. Yeah, no, I'm not shaming. I'm not shaming the poster for her point of view on what she desires for herself. But what I have found for myself is that I want more diversity.
I am starting to get into things where it is about me. And it's just, I mean, I have two examples I can think of is whether Mew likes putting a rolling pin on my legs and back a few times a week. That doesn't matter. I need that because I need to circulate so I cannot be in pain every minute of every day.
So that is something now that of course she doesn't join because she knows it makes me feel better and it helps me move and she enjoys that part. But it really is, hey, this is something I need. Whether somebody likes us or not. Bunny is another perfect example.
We tried all different sorts of way to record her singing when we do our zoo and stuff. And we had like bumping and whatever. And it finally came down to look. I just need you to sing the way I need you to help tell these stories.
And that made it a lot easier because there is times where she wants to rebel and I want to go this way or whatever. And sometimes we collaborate and you go that way. But sometimes I just need her to do what I want for me. This is the story that I want to tell.
And that was something that we worked on. And that's for me. So her service to me is singing some of the songs that I say this is for me that she sings it the way I want. And that's part of her service to me.
So I don't think I want to always be, is this okay with you? Is this something you enjoy? And you are excited about doing. Sometimes I really want.
I need you. Could you please, Joe? She's naked. What was she just letting him?
Was he letting her out the door naked? Yeah, she's like, I gotta go. We have other businesses. Not anymore.
Just go ahead. Walk into the hallway. Just go back to the building. I think we need to have a little talk with Joe and Tiger.
Not gonna be the show. But fucking awesome, by the way. Maybe get her a blanket or something. She just gets up and she's going for the door.
She's at the door. I think it would go bad. But you know, it's just kind of rules up. So Kathy, what's your takeout?
What's your takeout there's post? Oh, let me tell you something. I love this post a lot because I remember coming in the scene and I absolutely knew I was kinky. I never had a question about that.
But the limited exposure I had to kink before I came to Threshold and got into the community. It gave me a very narrow view of what submissive and dominant was. And so I just had already made it my mind. I will never be a submissive because I don't do that and that is what submissives do.
And it was a lovely surprise to realize, oh no, you can do whatever the fuck you want. You can have so many different ways of doing it that there's not one person who does it the same as you. And so I absolutely love her post. I agree with it 100%.
I am very much like her. It's not that I don't like service submissives because I actually do. I enjoy when someone wants to do something for me. But there is a lack of connection with me, with someone who only wants to serve me.
There's just nothing going on between us. I've experienced it before and I enjoy it particularly when I used to be event coordinator here at the club and we would have our events. And there were a number of people who I knew I could rely on consistently throughout the year to help me. And it was an absolute joy to have them there.
But there was no connection for me to have a real submissive. I absolutely understand what she means when she says this has got to be someone who's their own person, who can talk with me, who can laugh with me, who can make me laugh, who can do just I want an actual person. Can an independent person also be somebody who wants to do what the dominant wants? And absolutely what do you mean?
Well because it kind of sounds like the people that are more service oriented that want to do things just to please the dominant aren't those aggressive independent self-starting individuals. There may very well be in my experience I have not seen them. It does not mean that they don't exist. But for me it has all it's there's a I hate to say this is almost a selfishness to it which precludes any kind of bonding or further relationship between us.
And I'm somebody who if I'm going to be in a close relationship with anybody, oh boy do I need to bond with you I need to understand and we need to talk. We need to understand each other and I want to get into your head and I want us to understand what's going on with each other emotionally mentally. And that doesn't happen a lot when I have dealt with service submissives. It doesn't mean it can't but I think it's rare at least in my experience.
So you don't want somebody because I'm just thinking of just an enormous amount of master slave relationships a lot of master slave relationships where you know there's master slave relationships where the master is actually gay and has a female slave. So it's not about sex it's strictly about the service. And so you don't feel you can connect in a relationship like that. The service submissives that I have been in contact with and who have served me in the past they were not my friends and they didn't really have any interest in being my friend.
You don't have to be sexually involved with me but you do need to be my friend. I do need to be able to call you that for us to go any further than hey meet me at the club and I want you to make sure you have my drink ready and you're going to just be there for me all night which is fine don't get me wrong I love that shit and I've had that. And it was satisfying in its own way. As far as having an actual submissive service can be an element of that but if you're nothing but a service submissive which as I said before it's just been my experience it's not going to work for me.
I can make that work. I couldn't be monogamous with someone like that but I could definitely I could I and that's been an evolution for me because before that attitude for me was more about not being able to receive service. It wasn't it wasn't just it that's pretty much what it was that I didn't think enough of myself that somebody would actually give to me and look for the things that I want and that would give them their pleasure and their feeling of service whether or not they liked it that was an insecurity for me to deal with and I don't feel that way anymore because I feel that a lot of the things I definitely don't believe I'm the beyond that I can't deal with that I am somebody's God or something like that and I've seen a lot of masters slave relationships where they basically refer to their masters they're God and and that works for them. I'm very you know that's great I can't be like that but I can definitely see the value in my higher calling and and that it's valuable enough that somebody who was literally mostly service oriented wanted to be a part of that I could see I could see definitely spending time with somebody like that.
But I think it's good for any listeners to hear this so that you realize that there isn't just one way to be right and what works for you and what you demand of your submissive or what you want from your dominant hey that's entirely up to you you can make it into whatever you want never assume that you can't just because it's different from what you see around you right right right right so that's why I really love this part. I like that you guys going oh okay. Okay. It was cute watching you walk out naked.
Huh. Oh okay. You better though. Okay.
We'll see you again. Okay. Okay. Okay.
All right. Don't want anybody to get an accident leave on the podcast. Don't get in the accident God damn it. Man.
Man. Boy your piece of what? What is there? There's never been an intro for Pervio mailbox.
Why all of a sudden are you confused? I don't know. Did you take your Hindi? I don't know.
No. Is it all the cupcake sugars? I might have part took of some cupcakes. I might.
You might know that was last week. You'll him me. Make your be his heart Jesus fucking Christ. It was yohimbi and there was some other kind of thing like oh I tried this buck one or whatever and I'm like I'll just do a quarter of each you know just a quarter cap man like a good drug addict like literally totally not drug addict like I actually tried to make it the right dose it to be just enough to maybe give him.
Yeah. Yeah. That was like literally 12 hours of like I want to die. I feel just that icky like heart attack he was awful.
Me wasn't here right. Me was here when that happened. Is this another thing we can blame on her ego? No.
I don't think so. Pretty much everything you got to sell the people. So this is a news fall for being honest. What happens when news not here?
Yeah you can't even get news back in town finally. Thank God. Alright we had an email from Nira UK and she said I'm a regular listener from England and I like your show very much. I'm also in your chat room all the time.
Yay. My girl is a Shina. Nira UK and IRA. What is so funny just through his head back.
So Nira is always in the chat like always logged in but never on because she's asleep when the show's on. Another sleeper what is it with all these people? She's been sitting here because it's eight o'clock we started eight o'clock and it's an eight hour difference it's 4 a.m. Yeah.
Then she's up long enough to log in just so we know she just stays logged in. She's always always there. She's always there. She's just with us in British God damn spirit.
I love that. What can yay. But because she's always logged in what she can do is when she does get up she can see the chat that took place from the night before. Very clever by the way.
Very dedicated. Very dedicated. Sometimes we'll log in and she literally just sits and she's unemployed right? I don't know.
I don't know. I know. She can read 18 and she can read a solid hour of chat reporter podcast chat room babble. That's just a commitment.
Oh alright well anyway she says as a newbie to the community I would like to see how a real BDSM club looks like. I'm a bit shy just to go to one and jump into deep water without even knowing what to expect. Have you ever thought about doing a 360 tour of threshold? That would be so cool.
Yeah. Yeah I have to have thought of that and I'm real tired for not getting that done. Why do you look so sheepish? Well you know.
Video games. Ah ha. But ginas. Why do you look at the bunny?
And I don't know. Well look at her ass. That's why I'm looking. Look at theirs.
And there's a wait a minute. We don't know what her name is. I can't. Can you please squeeze your boob for me?
Thank you. Thank you. That's a little. Just threw back her head.
This is awesome. What were you talking about? 360. Oh yeah yeah.
Definitely in the works. And what I want to do is I want to get some of our leveleys together and a couple of tops and do very PG placings, very basic no hands bond just because you can't put, you can tie someone up but you can't buy their hands or their feet on YouTube. I think that's the thing. And maybe a wax play and a body painting or something.
Like real friendly. I mean we can do a version for FETlife or something like that. You have to find people who are out or at least wearing masks. At least wearing masks.
Because what I'd love to do is literally make you the person sitting in the middle of the dungeon and watching like 15, 20 minutes of placings going on because that's what it's actually like in a dungeon. So I'm working. I mean we can walk through with the little fucking selfie stick on the three doodles. There's the purple room empty.
It's really nice and people do really need stuff in here. But I'd really rather. I'd really rather. I mean what would be cool is just to do like five minute scenes maybe in each of the rooms at threshold.
And then you know so there's a different type of that. Thank you. Thank you. That's what we got to do.
So now you just got to organize that and get a night under. So the chat tends to go very weird places. No. No.
And this just came out from one of our new chat. So I'm sorry I brought up. We're talking about dreams and someone was talking about how dreams got were mild because we were talking about her more mild nightmares because it got kind of dark. And then we were talking about someone brought up wanting to see a necrosnuff scene.
Oh my. Now we're having to reveal someone in the half sex with her dead body. Well that would be a snuff in the necros scene. They said necrosnuff scene.
Well how are you going to necro someone if they're not dead? But then we start talking about zombies. So you have to kill someone. Reanimate them then have sex with them then kill them.
But the question now is how many sex with a zombie would that be considered neo necrophilia. Okay. That's new. New.
Cut off the chat right now. I think they broke the chat like the new and improved type of necrophilia. So this was this was a sorry again a new chat or this was her first contribution to a future challenge. Tell her necrophilia.
It's a fantastic term. No, so the new age of necrophilia perverted podcast. Now it's on Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday. Monster track.
Well that's good. So we look our listener helped us collaborate and we even though she slept through it even though she sleeps like wake up the next day and should be like I helped. That's a little applause for her. Thank you for the idea.
No I think that is the room to room thing. I think that's a good idea. Just a little scene. I like it.
Sometimes love is less than nice. You may need some fucking advice right now. It's really important. You realize that we're not actual therapists.
You want real advice go to a professional. I mean really what's a professional. Some shit had you pay. Somebody with a certificate on the wall.
I have a certificate on it. That's the same massage on it. That's a therapist. Actually it's a massage therapist.
It's just a practitioner. Cross off the massage. Whatever. Shut up.
What do we get? A sub love 94 wrote and said I have a question for the show and for Kathy more specifically since she's a switch. I'm a sub and my Dom has expressed ideas of wanting to be domed. I'll give it a try but if I'm being a dominant and I tell my submissive to crab the paddle and crop and spank me is there a term for it or is that just some inception level confusion?
So wait a minute. So she has agreed to dominate her dominance and then so instead of getting. What she's going to do. She just says okay are you ready and he's like yes I'm ready.
I thought or she I'm ready. Yes I'm ready. This is why I'm sorry. And then she goes good.
Beat me. That really is. That would piss me off. Oh listen switching is one thing that's great but why would you switch if you are already a submissive.
If you're already getting the spec because when I first read this I thought abs are fucking literally do whatever the hell you want. You're the dominant if you want them to do that that's fine. But if you already get the cropping and the spanking when you're submissive why would you then turn around and ask for the same thing. It kind of it is inception level.
It's like dream within a dream in my dreaming I have no clue. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But if you're into it and your Dom is fine with it. Don't ask just do it.
Well I'm going to assume it seems more like a joke because you know the dominant you know they're like hey you know really thinking about trying the submission thing you know whatever and they they negotiate that and then for the submissive to just turn around in the scene and just say okay beat me. That seems almost like a bratty kind of joke you know like you really would you really do that. Now I'll say that we don't know much else about this there may be an element to telling him how to do it that she doesn't get when she's submitting. So that would be just topping from I mean I'm not in a negative way it's just telling someone what.
It's like you with a rolling pin I need some I need catharsis. Sure but if I all of a sudden said you I really need the rolling pin I can't walk and she goes okay here I will help you and then hands me the rolling pin says rub my ass with it then obviously haha very funny you know I actually need this so it should do that you know. But yeah I don't it seems like that would you. It does show we like I said I we don't know that much about it frankly if you if you agree with it and he agrees with it and and just experiment because you don't know going into it what's going to happen and there's absolutely nothing wrong with trying it and saying yeah this works or let's tweak it or this totally blows let's never do this again.
I would like to go on another kind of tangent with this because now we're talking in this inception kind of you know whether it's a joke or not or or whatever that's fine but I would like to talk about the very real scenario that happens where you have a dominant or a master I've known like full blown leather you know in the lifestyle 30 years masters that are like I tell my slave how to beat me I tell her exactly what I want and I go down I go I take the bottom and I'm and I say this is the way I want to be flogged and this is the way I want to do this and that doesn't conflict at all with his or hers being a master that's just you saying I like the sensation and I think that gets into the difference between bottoming topping and mastering and submitting. I think that's a difference so you can easily top someone you know that without having to be like Neil at my feet and all the maybe the protocols and rituals that you would do in your DS you just eliminate those and do the play and that's just topping your dominant or master that's true but then with that in mind my next question would be to her why does your dominant why I want to be dominated because if what they're looking for is releasing you just put the control back in their hands you're not doing them any favors you're actually not giving them what they want so I think the key here is to communicate and find out what it is that he hopes to get out of now being dominated because that's going to play a big part in whether she wants to do it or what she's going to do because like I said if he says look I I love doming you and that's our you know default position but the reason I want you to dominate me is because once a week I just need that kind of release and I want to spend a limited amount of time this two hour period of time in which I'm not in charge that's a game changer that means she's probably not going to say okay grab the paddle and beat me so communication is the key but you know what last Friday we had our domination party which is a femme-dong party we do and the rule is that all scenes have to be female dominant driven so there can't be any men topping so I come in I'm walking down that's a party that I hope I'll help host and I'm walking down the hallway and I see one of the rooms this guy using a flogger on a woman and I see the dungeon monitor because that threshold that's what we're supposed to do is contact the DM and they handle any issue and I said hey what's going on in there and the DM told me she's actually topping this scene she's explaining to him exactly how she wants to be flogged and I'm monitoring it and they asked me if it was okay and it was a judgment call so I said go ahead now this is a DM and I said do the DM do what you need to do but I tell you it mess with my head to be in a femme-dong party and see a guy wailing on some woman I don't care who was the actual top yeah so it can it can get a little crazy but I think that sub-lev 94 just found a new kind of play and we could call it inception play you don't know what's going on I just see it is switching you know and that's that's the moment where people say yeah yeah if it's great I just like the fact that it's not a big deal anymore and how do whatever you want yeah we used to just there used to be so much this or that you had to be this and that and that's like hey my only caution is communicate find out what yeah absolutely before you go and ruin it for did I see blue light I did hunger yes hunger did you have a comment there I the blue light was okay left it on from the last question I turned it off and that's what got your attention can you make up some clever bullshit wait well the chat's not talking about hook pulls ah there they go from necrophilia to I'm sorry what was it neo neo-necropping actually the bridge was Frankenstein I get it I get it I'm an injured freaking tears and luck Tarzan oh my god fire I was going to do it was like in Tarzan to my friend they say Christmas girls away and everyone half the people in this room laugh the other half looked puzzled you can look called the age there's a line of age there's a line well they don't put a lot of Saturday night live on YouTube they don't put a lot of the classic thing and no one in the chat knows movie dreamscape that movie we're talking about dreams I brought up being a snake oh my god I know what scares you it's really sad that that line you just reluted to is also separated by nakedness versus not naked no I think it's actually very good that that's the line that's separate all people should not be naked you see that you're the enthusiastic one with your man nipples I like man boobs okay don't don't can't shame me any's flexing now do I get my heart beat now no you don't but you know what we get ladies ladies who are in the know laser and I know I need everybody off of the massage table immediately please get off the massage table immediately thank you very much I wish I had some sort of music for this new please put the massage table away from just about two feet little more little more little more little more okay stop Kathy what I don't know what this is I'm scared Kathy new please get on the table on your back on your back Anthony please turn on your camera okay very good thing he's got a sight Anthony has his ear muffs and his sci-fi goggles I don't even know leave us just give it all right we're gonna experiment Kathy it's actually I need you to turn around the other way and you're on the other way and all other women need to be at various levels of under money yes under us and standing in the waiting if they are going to try what I am about to do just lying there don't worry about a Kathy what now honey please go stand at the other end of the massage table get up to move in all right so go around that way go around there's no room in here so Kathy what stop grabbing your balls now it's gonna flap them first let me set them on top of music those are my balls on her head gave her black eyes Kathy sometimes why do I do things new ways new ways something to try things you're gonna try a little little monkey magic and a little experiment here in the level and this is going to be one of the better experiments I don't know how I kind of know how it's gonna work I've heard that promise but it may it may not work but I got I got a bunch of women over there that don't know what the fuck's going on and I got one woman here that does know what's going on and I got one person standing with a camera and he sort of knows what's going on I wearing goggles and ear muffs Kathy I don't want to do a new type of play where's the mic I'm not turning on this mic is it neat can you hear me sort of yeah sort of inventing a new type of play no no turn that away am I in a splash alone ladies and gentlemen over to podcast listeners this next segment will be called leaf blower versus vagina oh are you playing out did you just leave blower vagina I'm a pussy that's flying left and right I'm a self a 16-amp leaf blower I say clap this so they can hear 16-amp leaf blower 16-amp leaf blower oh I got a big flower oh look at her pussy let's go oh my god oh my god that's a dead bird she's just laughing not her boobs to leave her nipples alone look at her teeth no those no oh her thighs her vagina her inner labia are all over the fucking place they're reverberating left and right that's so scary I'm so scared you look at me what do you think that's not what you look at your bed look at the bed they're all hiding under the plate they're like don't call me next buddy buddy get over now times a waste in buddy yes go three I don't use pulling on her so so which of you is the last airbender I am get on the table now then get on the table take out your panties don't worry about your string just let's fly on your back we need this as an experiment we need to try this more now than the only thing if you notice the angle that I have it's because I don't want to give them an embolism by blowing air into the vagina so you have to come from the side so that's why you do it from the side that's other than that I don't know much safety not a joke please if anyone's gonna try this don't blow air into the vagina repeat do not blow air into getting back she does not look up she looks actually quite scared she has a little plushy hold that she's hugging she's that scared oh god here we go again this is so freaking scary she doesn't look happy he's getting ready standing there with a leaf blower ah again with her thighs and her stomach bustle too that is so insane actually she's laughing she looks like she's enjoying it oh I wish I could see this better oh the nipples I didn't know nipples to fly like that so is this like the motorboding all right that was second the second experiment leaf blower versus the ginna bunny how would you describe that sensation thumbs up thumbs down thumbs down oh my god did not like why are you holding that like it's a cock in between your legs yeah oh me get over now move it move it I keep throwing each other at us bunny go get her come on time's racing get on the goddamn bed well this really was a surprise not just for me I thought you were kidding and everyone prepared for this okay get on the bed okay this is it I want to know what Anthony's doing what is that like a he's just he's just taking pictures with my camera so I can delete their faces up thank you very much okay very good on me are you ready for this experiment look you are not good they're bigger than the rest this is going to be great funny this is going to be amazing all right leaf blower versus vagina part play here we go like okay this leg up and here we go ah yeah too close to relax honey go into it sorry this is so hysterical oh man I've never seen skin move like that I don't think she likes it on her nipples I oh man oh the positions it's contorting into okay that's really too close to her vagina okay now then bunny may have put her thumbs down but she was laughing the whole time and now she looks like she's about to cry is what I think did that did that change your life she has not stopped laughing is this pain isn't it enough that you blew into her vagina leave it no I go on the outside of her vagina right outside what did you think of that sensation and she's waffling her hand back before is that a yay or nay I think thumbs up her thumbs down pretty lukewarm up no that's too that's too that was a thumbs up okay cuz I want to do an entire dungeon scene like this I will I will direct you to the bed over there everybody is looking cuz everyone's just hiding see is that it we get no more I think they're saying thumbs up okay and it's coming over we can do this we have two maybe's you're in denial we have one good one bad one sort of good and this will be it but it's a heavy evidence science and research bunny shaking her head get ready she did not like it and then thank you very much for being here now that now that you've seen the vagina versus leaf lower in action how do you feel about this experiment that's going to take place momentarily I think that pretty much sounds it up never that gives me kind of a boner are you ready for leaf lower versus vagina part the twat cat to our under twat cat cat when look at me go with French hard for are you ready good well you said so I'm here we go again away from boogie oh doesn't like this back that she's closing her life needs stop oh boobies going everywhere I'm really starting not to like this that's a nervous laughter so Hannah you've even now experienced leaf low versus vagina and she is leaving the table yeah there will be there's your answer is that's it thumbs up what oh the girl sorry I got excited hey we got our fifth our fifth and final part oh my god she's look like she's taking a walk to the gallows just look I just want to point out as gorgeous early girl is getting on the table that an is now being consoled literally by armfuls of women on the bed she's curled in a field visit look at the look on bunny space the bunny just has disdain disdain like she this was submission this was submission good girl thank you very much makes daddy very happy we'll talk more later and then on that sensation thumbs up with oh my gosh two middles one yay one day or go how you feel your tires are gonna wake you up well then let's just do this in a relaxing way before we end our show leaf blower versus vagina part five what what thing am I hitting by the way you will hit the enter button and that will be it are you ready you look so cute you're so sexy I can't wait to blow your vagina 135 miles an hour are you already you are the deciding factor the world of leaf-blowing perverts rests in your hands what I just said the world of leaf blowing something rests in her hands I don't know she's number five and it's been one good three walk and two waffling yes I think the thumbs up were just being nice wait on she is not moving an inch barely a smile oh a little bit of laughter and she's trying to cover up trying to get away from boogie frankly closing her legs trying to pull us off away I think she seems to like them on the boob more than the vagina but she's still trying to get away from boogie I don't think boogie realizes these women do not like this two thumbs up we have one decide to make experiment or the girl loves it that is our show thank you for inviting us for a great record if you are in the Los Angeles or surrounding area visit threshold or find out about joining their cakey family thank you to everyone in the love left tonight I'm going to name these other ladies to be five beautiful make it win it too I don't know I don't think I want to thank Anthony for you know cataloging all of this but thank you Anthony and thank you to Breet for donating your hard-earned money to the show your words inspire us to keep moving forward if you have questions comments or ideas please email us at pervideepodcasts.com and most importantly you know what don't let boogie and I be the only asshole standing up you're telling everyone how fucked up we are if you have a story that feels you ashamed drop us a line why don't you tell us all about us what else you ashamed like the shame that we brought upon but they can't think that I found my side take photos like a week from bunny think buddy has just decided to move on exactly you lost money hi pumpkin you know what we may not have the most organized show in the world that's for sure but goddamn at leaf blower versus vagina was pretty epic I have amazing people around me that will let me do things to them in the name of goddamn science and I am internally grateful I am eternally grateful to my perverted podcast listeners we are going to be here next week for show 122 look everyone's just curled into their little position all of them are reflecting on their life choices right now like whether or not it was a good idea on every additional camera and every one of them laughed hysterically so it couldn't have been that bad it was hysterical over it was Jesus Christ we will see you guys next week here is a show here is a song sorry this next song is from I actually had a record deal it was awful and this you'll hear why when you hear this song this incredibly overproduced song called understanding but I wanted to put it up so you would hear what overproduction sounds like I'll see you guys next week show 122