Must be the Mac. What do you got, Ross? Like a big fucking antenna. I've got one, two, I've got a six meter, I've got six meters from the roof.
So six meters from the tip of the roof up, and I've got a bi-directional LTE, and 10 that picks up whatever signal it can pick up. But it's funny because it moves, it changes, right? So like Monday through Thursday is one direction, and then you've got to move it come Thursday night because the next day it's moved for some reason. I don't know how or why.
Is it on a train, like an internet train? I can have no idea. But then, and then Telstra's always been the golden child up here, and I went and bought a prepaid-optist card. Oh, she's a face, sorry.
You can probably start the book. We had Telstra card, and we were making a magic. Like there's three kids doing Zooms, myself, my wife, there's five of us on Zooms, and my brother-in-law is fiancee-ron. So like we're doing about 180, 200 gig a day, right?
And we chewed our Telstra cards, right? We worked out, I've just had some really good service. You know, we've got the satellite, we had some really fast-based breakouts. It's gone.
It's gone. It's gone. Sorry. Anyway, so Pete, we ended up, a little, you'll love this, right?
So I ended up going to my prepaid-optist card. So you just bought a prepaid card, and I stuck it in the thing. But I'd read online that someone said, if you buy the prepaid-optist card, you can stick it in your modem, and for $5 a day, it's completely unlimited. So we're doing 180, 200 gig a day.
So we're thinking, all right, for five bucks a day, between 12 of us. Like, it's not the cost. It's the unlimited factor, right? Like completely unlimited.
Which reminds me of the top. But anyway, so about three weeks into it, the whole thing shits itself and shuts itself down. So we've been using the Telstra card, we've been bonding the thing. Anyway, I got this email from Telstra, Sir from Optist that basically says, you've hit the fair play policy, you've used excessive amounts of data.
We've canceled your card. You've canceled your prepaid card. And I'm like, but I've been paying for it every day. Like, what do you read that the terms of conditions say that you have to use it at home?
They've got our limits. The fact that fair play scores even most contracts. Yeah, so, but a lot of them say it down anyway. They're literally cutting off.
I think that did like, I think the figure was like 6,000 something gig, 6,000 and 24 gig in 18. They're kind of a good story. I just don't know. No, it's in my phone, because they said I did, they obviously did test it.
Like it's in this particular modem and it's, you know, there's X amount of people connected to it like, oh really? So just getting by them from the server. What, different ones? Yes.
So you're setting up new accounts every time. No, I just add it to my old account. And then until they catch me. It lasts about 16 days, seven and a half.
They must get the report on day 15. And some guy looks at it and goes, the freaking house is going on. I'll go for 6, 8. What's he doing?
What's he doing? Actually, if I was mining, be it coin or something like that, I was like, no, I'm not mining. Cryptocancer. I'm just zooming my kids into school.
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But you do that? Just give me a little bit. Just give me a little bit. The Dolly Part and Part.
You will ever play to you by a champ, can't I? Yeah, because... You could do this on the camera. Just move the camera.
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It's joining me tonight. He's a little bit snuffer. Don't want to talk. Really neat.
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We're going to be a good guest tonight, Bradford Berry. How are you, buddy? Oh, good fellas. Great to see you all again.
We can see each other. We can hear each other, but it's still a podcast. I forgot that this is radio. I don't see any sense.
It's gonna be sastra. I'm at all of my visual comedy. It's not going to work. No.
And you had to put your clothes on for this one. Is that an apple? No. No.
No. It's not, bro. Visual gags are going crazy. Brad, welcome aboard, buddy.
Thanks, fellas. How's it going in Carl Finance and Doolallen? I mean with a shut down I mean with a shut down Sorry, I'm sorry I'm sorry, I'm sorry I'm sorry, I'm sorry Sorry, I'm sorry Sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry You're okay You need an ambulance Okay I'm just being peculiar With resale not having the share Open is tough but it's been really Interesting to watch consumers Shift so quickly to online Transacting, you know buying cars Unseen, particularly custom Prantise dealers, it's probably a bit different But you know clicking collect People jumping online, they buy, they Beamed W land, they leave us a two or five hundred dollar deposit Depends on what type of car it is and then we call them Next business day or that business day and To wrap up the details and go through it like a Normal transaction. I think deal lands people that pretty well we've made videos for people send them off.
You know you can see the car you can see everything about it. It's been interesting to see how quickly consumers adapt to it What about test drives? I mean I loved it test drive the car before I buy it but some people really just going on over the car. I know what I want.
I've had I think in new cars It's not such a big deal. You know like if you think through it and you go again B&W land had B&W ever made a bad car if you're buying a 330 or an X530 You're kind of not that the car's gonna be fine. Right? It's like if you go to a restaurant or a downshift You know whatever is on the menu is gonna be quick.
So there's a level of faith that comes into that. I think use cars is probably a bit tricky and It was a bit of a passer in one's a car though. Yeah, and you could take the car Which of you had more of Ross cars or cars? Probably.
Yeah. So you sort of kick through and go okay if you're buying from a trusted franchise in a brand that you know You're not really gonna go wrong with an online transaction on a new car. Use cars different story and as much as we've you know Mastered the click and collect deliveries and handouts and all those sorts of things. The click and collect test drive is a very different thing from you know the COVID safe side Someone can do a click and collect purchase but the the health stuff wasn't around allowing us to do a quick and collect test drive so we simply didn't do it We've you know now in a position getting closer to the end of lockdown You can sort of position transactions to say okay.
Yep. You can buy and secure this car now We're gonna hold on to it on the 11th of October. You can come and drive it to see it and between now and then we'll sort all the other stuff out And the finance really have anything ready to go. You like it.
It's not on the finance contract. It's not on the you know driveway So you know consumers have been pretty good and understanding with the restrictions, you know, we haven't had in our land, you know people Parking up and getting sensitive about being told no and let's be honest, you know, press each buyers high-end stuff, you know out there We've joined a grandus been on a card that might be told no to often and we haven't really had any interactions where people have been upset about it Some of the handovers haven't been ideal for us because I mean as you guys know that the technologies and things in cars are pretty full on takes, you know If they've been adjusting when we usually do a delivery we ask people all hour or so to go through all the ins and outs sit up their car Sit there fine help them with every setting and do all that stuff and get in familiar, but we simply can't do it So, you know, most customers have been fine. We park a car and drive away, you know, we say drive in parking at your car next to your new car Someone will come out with a clipboard, you sign something, take the key drive away But before delivery, we're sending out, you know, instructional videos on how to do things and pointing people to, you know, um, Face times without the NW geniuses. It's been all right.
I think in general consumers have been pretty understanding of it. Without negotiations. I know we're negotiating. I know it's not happening.
That's out the window now. What's gone? There's no more negoties. It's clicking collect.
Yeah, Mercedes and Honda have gone to like a fixed pricing. If you found people negotiating. The use car market has been effectively a fixed price offering for some time in prestige land, probably for about two and a big years. When you say fixed price, you got a car for 80 grand.
If someone, you know, you flash back three years, people are phoneings and I'll pay 70 grand for it. You know, and you'll spend three days trying to negotiate to a middle ground. We'll advertise a car for 80 grand and we'll advertise it clearly saying, you know, fixed price now offers. And what we do is deal is we price that car to market.
So when we first get the initial inquiry, someone's inquiring on that car knowing that it is a fair priced car. That's perfectly presented by franchise dealer. The title of the recap done, the title, those sorts of things. So you might have a couple of cars that are above it and a couple of cars that are below it, but it'll be meeting the market in relation.
So then you have consumers that sort of, you know, you can say to them, of course, everyone does. They want to go shut on a car. You know, they'll give you a 75 grand for it. And we can say confidently in our business that, you know, thanks for your office.
You know, you and I both we price that car correctly. It's priced exactly where it should be in the marketplace. There'll be more expensive cars above it where people are a bit nuts. There'll be cars below it that have got a worse spec or, you know, poor service history or aren't from a franchise dealer or have more kilometers.
And you've been quiet on that car because you're a smart bloke and you've done your diligence and you know, price to correctly. So I'm happy to help you a little bit. Do you think that's because supplies limited the moment to load up? I think there's a little bit of a COVID tax of a minute that we see with used cars, but the funny thing with that is in what people don't realise it.
It's like the housing market. Everyone goes, I'm going to go and sell my house. It's going 500 grand. I'm going to get 300 for it.
So you see your house for 300,000 and it's fantastic. You've got to go and be forming it on the next one. So as much as you're selling it, you're all surviving a peak. So the ups and downs of used cars and new car pricing doesn't change the end result for a consumer because you're kind of going to be there or there about, see if it's a crappy used car market and it's no value and it's huge deals on new cars or it's the other way around.
It's the same as I. It's funny. We've got a lot of guys on the BMW pages and they're all going, I'll get to it in a second about, and you can share some a lot on it whether it's true or not. A lot of them are sort of hearing about the next builds not having certain options like heads up display and a fair amount of things.
Wheels are going, I don't know whether this is just in the States, but wheels are going from 19 inches to the 20 inch M sport on the X cars, X3, X5. They're all being optioned with it because they just don't have the equipment to be, whatever it is. They can't run the heads up displays. A lot of options that aren't available whether people are manufacturing a certain fabric anymore or whatever, but it's put a lot of people off and then it's got a lot of guys saying, I'm going to sell my car.
And a lot of them, and I get it all the time. You know, you and I talk about it all the time. Can I buy your car? Can I buy my car?
What am I going to buy? Whatever I sell. I'm going to go buy a car. And what am I going to buy?
And what am I going to buy? And what am I going to? It's like houses, like everything. I think the car market was traveling.
In my opinion, I think it was okay. Secondhand market was big because you know, the COVID taxes you call it. You guys are holding firm on your, you're also all dealers. It's a fairly, a holding firm on their pricing.
And then you get to a point where manufacturers are not being able to offer options. Like I know with Porsche, if you went and bought a Porsche, the certain options you can't have because they haven't got the equipment to be able to put it in the car. So it would be interesting to see that makes a big difference moving forward as well. So the car's coming out of 2122.
Are they going to have less options? Are they going to be worth less? Are people paying more for those? So if I can't be in WLAM at the moment, we've got an anomaly in a lot of areas.
We've got cars that are having a diminished standard spec. So wireless charging. The wireless charging option also negates the Apple iPhone key on your mobile because the charging pad is one of the components of that is the reader for the key. So if you lose that, you don't have the Apple thing.
And that's just a really short term. It's only on particular models. All of them for next years. No, no, no, no.
So we've got cars on boats at the moment that have that back on again. We've got cars in stock. I took home tonight, an X3 and 4i. And that has it deleted.
So what BMW did is they've pulled back a couple of options here in their Global E2 balance out their prediction for when they need the superconductors so they can keep building cars and doing all the stuff. But they've also decided to go, I'm just going to do it. So BMW are now building their own superconductors for their cars. So they're not as exposed.
Now, the biggest manufacturer is going to be affected I think in the next 18 months is Toyota. So Toyota renowned for doing something called just-on-find production. So that's where they have their parts suppliers literally bringing a part for a car five minutes before it goes in the car. And that's the limit storage.
I mean, 100% so then they don't have the stock holding the staff. They don't have to have, not only writing the checks for millions of dollars worth of stuff and you think of the volume that Toyota do, how do they build up and say they just rely on basically comes off a production line. Mr. Horagashi builds a specific inductor and he drives it over to Mr.
Toyota and it literally goes off the van and into a new Corolla. Doesn't sit in the warehouse. Speaking about Toyota, so now we're in Australia. We're in the last end of the world.
To get a Landcore user 300, you've got to wait two years. Is that because the cars that we would have got are going to other countries like America and Saudi Arabia and the rest of it or they've just got no supply? They're not building it. The 300 series is an anomaly of the car globally.
It's incredibly well regarded and capable. So you have Toyota, they start building and to meet the demand, they start building a year ago and just build up, build up. So when they release it, all of their dealers all over the world have 45 days worth of stock for the hot car. Doesn't really make much financial sense.
So once there are these done, they turn on the taps they build. Australia has a market in relation to the rest of the world. You've got more from America 300 people, big markets and you're in sizable markets in Saudi Arabia. But they're not that enormous in that sort of car.
You've got to build them, ship them, get them out. It takes time. So I think there's Toyota pivoted and shut down their Corolla factory and turned it into a Landcore factory. Because they do more of course they can, but then the Corolla people are thinking, there's a lot of pent up demand for 300 because it's been so long and it is a really well regarded car.
So there's always going to be that demand. But you come and knock on my door in BMW Land at the minute or do you want better? The other day about sourcing them a 911 turbo S. He's got to replace a client for his wife.
And he was going, Oh, you know, so if I do that now, I want to get the 911 S sort of April, May next year. And I said, What, April, May next year? We need to go back in time. Probably 12 months to order your car to get it in that time.
So let's get it. You know, the order done now because there's demand. What? I've never waited that long for a car.
That's the market. That's true. It says it waited that long for a car. No, it's not.
It's not Ross. It's not Ross. Ross has threatened the new M3 wagon that they're talking about. I thought about that.
I thought about that. No, I've already changed. You have to wait. You have to change your mind.
You're really not. You're really not. It's going to be right. It's going to be right.
No, I don't think I don't want to. It's too many too small. I'm going to go to X. I think that's a special.
That'll be special. The other thing with the 300 series is that a lot of those 200 series owners and they would have just plopped money down months ago to make sure they get car six months ago. Everyone's been coming for three years though. Yeah.
But like the dealers know who their buyers are and they would have just they would have secured orders, not like other cars. That's what Brad said. It's not your average SUV or Ford drive. Sure.
But that happens across all new models. So I think about the most recent hero current BMW Land and UM3 and M4. We walked into that as a business. We pretty much own tire allocation for this year allocated to customers.
But the M3 is more than the N You've changed. Thank you so much. This is before I bought my time. I was trying to be responsible.
And you know, I looked at it and I drove the thing and I realized that I don't get it. I don't get it. Right? But you know, I drive suburban.
If I was driving around Australia in something, would I drive? Would a 300 series of an increase of a really high up on listed cars to look at 100% if I was doing a school run? Not for me. So in BMW Land at the moment, so what would be a 330 iron X5?
If I went one to go and buy one? What's the wait time at the moment? We've got about four boats on water at the moment that I've looked at in the last few days. You know, I can get you most cars pretty quickly.
But it depends on how fast you are. If I want to pick the boxes that I wanted, six months? No, I get your December production slot. You have the current paper.
Okay. So that's, you know what? You know what? The X5 will be.
I'll bring it over tomorrow. So if you think now, right? We're in our favor effectively. In stock at the moment, I've got a good range of X5s, 30 days.
It's just, you know, when someone's going and spending 130, 140 grand on an X5, you sort of don't really want to compromise. If you want to wipe hard with tan leather, that's what you want. And you can get in there and, you know, we can stay to a customer. You know, that's fantastic.
We can have one of those for you. And here's one we get to a build slot and that's great. And the car's about 140 grand. But I've got this white one with black leather and stuff that you can have in, you know, 30 days.
That's, you know, 130 grand. And it's just up to you as a consumerist to what you want, right? So building cars, I love building cars for people. I absolutely love it.
You know, I mean, I've talked to Ross about before. I will sit for hours on parking. It's just screwing around. It doesn't matter what the brand is, you know, looking to upgrade my X5 suit and I've spent, you know, the last couple of days building new one.
I've done this to a dude. I'm going to the Mercedes one and you build your car up. That's pretty straightforward. And then you want to see a price.
You don't even know how much the options cost. And they just want you to give them an email address. There's no price. Other ones do give you a price or a consumer transit.
And so you can take a few approaches to it. If you use BMW on the CDs, Benz is the comparison. You hop on BMW's website. One of the core factors of BMW with their consumer experience is transparency.
You can get onto their finance website. You can see everything. You can get onto the car website. You can tick every box and it will give you a drive away price.
You know, so as a consumer, if you want to go and check with the manufacturers, see as a dealer's telling you, you can see a dollar for dollar. Sure, but sometimes you get a slight out of step if there's a price change or a spectrum change or something. But, you know, it's maybe, you know, two across over no sorts of technical scraps. But in general, the floor is a good one too, because the cars don't come steering or you're at an option.
So it tells you how much the steering or these. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's sensational. Yeah, it's an option.
And it actually used to get one based just like they are. Remember when we were ordering the McCain and we'll go to the options and I asked, I said, what? Yeah, that's it. And we asked the guy, you know, we were having a bad, good fun meeting.
And we were going through why things lie. Keyless entry and blind spot monitors were an option, but they were standing on it on the key. And they said because Porsche owners like to personalize their parts. Anything they have any automatic brakes or whatever that fucking.
Yeah, I think they're like a key a Rio because Porsche drivers can stop it. I don't think you're in my pocket serious. But anyway, I've got a good way of that. Porsche is in a pretty unique position in automotive and none of that will change.
And when you drive something like an 911, you get it. Yeah, and there have been an American though dealership. Well, no customers. What do you expect?
I'm going to take guys to the store to the watch car back to course last night. And they called you back? Yeah, they cast all their cards. I picked up.
They did this whole lot of the car with a lunge forward like I was telling you, Pete. And they've come back and gone, oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. That's the old Audi gearbox from the 90s. Yeah, I optioned it with that.
Yeah. Can I get the B6A4 to later? The old North American gearbox. That's standard because the Porsche double gang on whatever it's called is obviously an option.
There's a poor double gang. We're the finance side of things. If my lease is coming up to finish now, like I've been done, you've got the full circle program. Am I in a good position if I financed a car three years ago?
Yep, 100%. So I mean, the whole thing about finance is structuring it correctly so you can exit when you want to. And I'm really straightforward how I deal with customers. And I'll get customers that will say, oh, no, I want to do five year term because I've always done five years and I want to 40% to learn because I want to keep my repayment at two grand a month.
And quite often I'll walk them backwards and say, okay, have a look at that for a second. So you want to know problem, but how long have you kept your car for? Because I can see it's about three years old and the car's over that. And the car's over that.
How long have you kicked that one for? Was this customer on the loss? No, this isn't just a loss. So you can go if you can't be lost.
It's actually years. Yeah, exactly. I said three years and they change it. You have to be able to handle that.
So you look at it and go, if you're honest with yourself when you're buying it, your exit's never going to be a problem because a good broker, final manager, how would you do it. We'll help you create a structure that works for you. Right. So we've got to find out what your requirements and objectives are of a loan and help you make that happen.
So stretching to a longer term sometimes isn't the right thing, even though it might be 400 bucks less a month. No problem. Great for your cash flow, but you're going to snuck in it three years and you're going to want to get out and then you're going to write a check if you're then grand because you're low. The structure correctly to get out when you wouldn't have the 400 might hurt you in your actual pocket.
It just hurts you when you're thinking about it, but you're then out cleanly and for less money. The more money you pay each month, the less the car will cost you. Blood out. No one looks at the finish line.
Yeah. So you've got the per month. So that's the question. If you had if you went into a three year finance term three years ago and you're a bit mature now, even if you're on something like a guaranteed future value program, being Wben's or whoever, you will undoubtedly have some equity in your car.
Might be huge. You might have 10% equity. Cars worth 40. You know, you pay up might be 40 grand.
Your cars worth 44. So instead of handing it back, you trade in the car. Right? Then that's four grand.
You know, you've had the four back position of the guaranteed future value. You're not needing to use that four back position. You know, you're you're tip that foregrounding to the new car. Why you go?
Great finance opportunities around rates of cheap, you know, all of those sorts of things. But the chassis price of the car is probably more expensive, you know, like housing, whatever, you move on. All of it, you know, how much you pay for the car, how much you trades with all of that really doesn't matter. You look at what comes out of your accounting week or each month and you go, what are you comfortable with as a consumer to pay?
If you're, you know, in a position you comfortable going, I'm going to go in a month, you know, we can, you know, point to cars. You can have the two grand a month for the sensible. If you're comfortable spending 600 a month, we can find cars like that problem. New cars have been dialed.
Is anyone excited about the new electric range coming out? No. Genuinely. I am so pumped.
I can't. What about customers? Is it demand for these things? They have an order of an order of an order of an order of an order of building on the i4 really strongly.
So you think about the i4, I was having the same conversation with the guy last night again, the new i4 in an M50i, 129 nine hundred plus on loads and options. 3.9 seconds, more 200. Impressive. 615 4.
129 nine hundred plus. No, it's the other than the brand. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. He's your point, please. So you think there and go 129 nine 3.9 seconds go fast. Four doors, five seats, great looking car, latest tech.
I drive eight. And M3 is going to cost you 165 plus options and on-rides. So 220. And it does three and a half seconds.
If you get a competition thing, you go, OK. So I can tell you, even someone who's a magnetic like Roswell Ettus isn't going to really feel the difference between 3 and a half and 3.9 seconds. Really get it down. No, you will.
He'll get scared. He's felt 3.8 seconds, but he really cried. Was that when you two were making love? That was 3.8 seconds.
That was so cool. That was including dressing and undressing and travelling time. So, you know, when you look at that car, that's going to be really special. Practical.
Can't get my head around the electric thing. Yeah, but Roswell, once you drive one, depending on your drop, because you sort of think, OK, you think about how your... No, maybe not you right now, isn't it? You might be someone that is into a hybrid boost setup.
You might get an 8-some of the twin-turbo thing, you know, with the hybrid stuff, right? But think about how your wife might use a car and how she drives. Would she care? Well, she needs an electric car for sure.
Yeah, so there you go. So would she care if it's cheaper than that? She'll probably prefer a car that's not allowed for once in her life, because you have a drive to the system. She might drive the system.
So she can hop into a car that gives her all the performance, all the luxury and all the tech that she likes. She never has to fill the thing up with a server and get what he adds, whatever, and it's got a better range than your car, by the way. And it's, you know, four seconds or two hundred. If your wife got an i4, I can picture the phone call at eight o'clock in the morning that you're going to get it working, that is, I forgot to plug in here, can you come back and pick up the kids for the screw-around?
Character. No, you want to buy one of those ads, it's your drive-over. Correct. So you then think, right, consumer behaviour, everyone's like, Oh my God, I've got a 650 range, that sounds terrible.
It's 50,000, 300,000. The new i4M50i. Does it come as virtual? I'll build you one.
That's a fiddle. It's a 3.9 second car. You've not had a range that's probably 200Ks in reality better than an M3. What?
Right. So you think about how impressive that sounds of the ownership model. So I think about my wife, where does my wife go? She drives X5, she goes from home to her shop to school to, you know, interacting stuff.
40Ks max a day. You know, you sit there and then go, OK, if I get here a fully electric car, I'm going to have to plug it in on a Saturday night and unplug it on a Sunday. And that's without a fast charger. What do I like it?
It's funny to say that driving up and down from the farm, I had to switch cars. I had to switch in, I got out of the X5. I was just switching to small cars, the fuels. Absolutely.
Yeah, but that's also a good mess with it, right? So your X5 is a free way. We're talking about, right? No, no, no.
110Ks, an X5M is very efficient on a free way. It's probably going to do about 800Ks. No, no, it still does that. It's very efficient.
It's still very efficient. It's just maybe the boys got to your head. It's choose more than a B1A. Of course it does.
It's got three times the cylinder and it's built in the correct kind of meaning. Does the B1A still have a cassette player in it? Excuse me, my B1A now has a tune and it's now B250. Jesus, what are we going to buy on the B1A?
I'm going to go buy an AMG badge. When's the iPhone coming out? We're taking orders now. We're all done.
I think the first customer builds are January. The first customer is coming out of both. No, no, the first customer builds are January. The first one is the first one is the B1A.
The first ones that we have are November. They're a demonstrating that we want to be off for the sale. But the first customer builds are January. The first customer build deliveries will be March and between the other weeks regular stock stuff will come through.
That's going to be a pretty car. You've got the... So November, December is the one that we're going to get from November. I'll be carrying that in December.
Okay. So we'll have it the second week. I'll get it. The Christmas holidays.
I'll get it. So if you want to drive in it. What's up, Pam? We looked after the M3.
Just like your T1A. I'll get a watch. It's fine. It doesn't have T1A anymore.
It doesn't have T1A anymore. What? Did you notice that? What?
Did you notice that was a two-liter? Yeah, it's not. I saw the T1A car. Did you?
It's a car. You've paid one day for it. And until you've laid out, I saw the 1.10. You're irrelevant.
What is your real name? What do you buy? What do you buy? What do I buy?
What do I buy? I buy it. Yeah, you get a money. So that's the gap car.
So that's the gap car. So when everything's sealed down. That's the sensible car. You've rushed back.
You've kind of nice. Sensible. Sensible. I'm pretty approved for 300 grand.
So I'm going to put it in your wallet. So they're doing it. So they're doing it. So talking about the electric range.
So you've got in BMW land, there's been a hybrid range for some time. And it hasn't been positioned right, which I'm actually a look at. Man, it's actually, it's a bit sad. So like a 330E is a substantially quicker car than a 330.
So a 332 litre twin. Is it a PHE V car? Is it a PHE V car? I don't know.
I don't know. I'm going to define it. Give me a break. So you look at the 330, a 330 is 185 kilowatts.
The 330E is like 221 or something. So they've pitched the hybrid isn't it? But what the hybrid tech is in BMW is it's really like an overboost. It's like curves and F1.
You know, to range on it, you know, it's like 55K or something if you drive it on its own waves. But it's not the hybrids aren't just about the electric driving. They're about being a hybrid. They're working in conjunction with the other engine.
Right? So if you then think you've got, you know, an extra 40, I've got a lot of go fast. If you put on angry modes, fantastic. Like a 330 is a nimble car.
Like it is a nimble car. A 330E in angry modes. Fantastic. That's sort of where it starts.
You've got 330E then you kick up into the five. Five series has a hybrid X545. That's probably the apps that pick of them all. Three-lithe twin-turbo six-litre engine plus the hybrid stuff.
It is a really sensational car. You then go. Can I just throw something in there? I'm looking, let's go back 20 years.
Let's go back 15 years. Oh, whatever. Your P-plates. No, that was still easier.
If you went and bought a MCAR, you bought an M3 and M5. That was pretty much it. Yeah. On your website.
My brain's going to explode. Everything's an M. Everything's an M3. Everything's an M3.
Most things are. No, I've got a big knife for M50 Grand Coupe. Why don't I try? If you get about the meat, electric carpe.
You would assume. But why would I? I'm not a normal person. I'm saying a normal person goes in.
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An MP? reaction. No, I'm looking at the car now and I want to know what it's going to cost. I'm looking at the car now.
2990. So that's not a car for you because you're an emotional character. You're a highly emotional and stubborn bloke and you're not going to change that quickly. So the stepping stone for you would be a car like the new X5M that will be a hybrid cylinder twin turbo engine and you'll then get the flirt of electrification.
And then in another cycle when I tell you and you go yep beautiful one another one just give me the M and I'm like, oh, at least it's not an engine. It's electrifying me. But it does not do 102 and a half seconds and it's ridiculous. And you go, well, yeah, well, Brad, you know what, when we drove the three-star Porsche Taycan, like the noise didn't bug me because it felt like we were in a car.
And it was almost like you're in a luxury car. You can't really hear the engine. And then when you've done it, you knew. Yeah, it's a peak for years.
You've had an even now across, you know, the majority of manufacturers, you have artificial carbon noise because the external climate, particularly in Europe, the current external noise for cars is getting stricter. Right? So you can have your radios now as you want to in the car, but you can't have a stupid exhaust anymore, Ross. So you know, you look at that as to how that plays in electrification.
It's perfect. Right? So I mean, I remember the first time I drove the 338, I like to me is a, you know, I'm on 45, I'm, you know, I've been assigned to fiction, so I always, you know, whatever, you get in an and drive, I remember driving the car around Westfield paramedic because it was, I drove there to get my lunch and then I put it on electric makes, I realized I've grabbed a hybrid car and it was like driving, I thought like I was driving the stage, you've been a price. You know, you know, it's not a bad experience compared to what you like because bus means it's just different.
It's a different kind of vibe, but it is a million percent where it's all going to go. So just suck it up and get used to it. I actually want you to send me tomorrow, what it's going to call it when I can get one of the M50s. You can get one out, go to it in January and you can have it.
That car's going to be pretty special. You look at the 140, 130, great. 129 plus on roads. I'm sure is the pricing of it.
You can build and price it now on the boom, boom, boom, you can figure it out from. I am doing that as well. You have to see, I can't do blue brakes on the beam W. It's just wrong to me to my heart.
Blue brakes, right? No, I can't do red brakes on the beam W. No, I need to go. I'll do all these things and I just doesn't, I was building an X5 last night and everything was black and black and black and black and black.
Let me look at red brakes and I built it and I was just like, it just doesn't look like a beam W anymore with red brake colour. So the IX is another great example. You know, that car is, and part of me, I think I misspoke before. I think the IX is the one that does the 650 range in the M50i and the I4 M50i does about 550.
So that's about 100 per ton. So if you look at that as the new SUV pinnacle as an X5 alternative, you know, you've got a really interesting cabin ergonomics. You've got latest tech, you've got an environmental focus to production with materials with everything. It's incredible.
And different packaging too, because the batteries are under the floor. There's no you go backwards and if you build an electric car from the ground up, you can kind of do whatever you want inside it. If you're building a combustion car that you're turning electric, you can't go and change the give up. So you can't go and remove these things cost effectively.
You're adapting, you know, a combustion car to become an electric car versus ground up. So cars like the I4 and the IX are going to be quite revolutionary inside from the ownership point of view because there isn't the restriction of going, oh, if we can't do that, because that's where the axle got. That's where the drive train is. That's what I'm going to do.
You know, it's like we build it. It's going to be sensational. The IX is going to be a really interesting car. And with all of these two, when we talked about it before, when the current M3 and M4 came out with a big buddy, Beaver 2 front on it, whatever you want to call it, in a photograph, that car doesn't gel.
But in the metal, the new M4 and M3 look so good. And it's made the G80. A lot of the guys, the G80, we should keep our cars going to go with double that. Mate, the G80 looks terrible.
The new one is just, sorry, the G80 has made the F80. It looks old. No, it's still looks good. The F80 wasn't as polarizing in its design.
It kind of just appeased everyone. It looked like a BMW and it was doing its thing. No, the other thing, the other thing I noticed with it in the three series first came out, the rear-end reminding of Lexus. But now that BMW have gone that way with all their products, it sort of fits in the family now.
That's the only thing I noticed. Yeah, it does. How do we go with someone like, sorry, Pete, how do we, right, I'm just bombarding with Ben, I mean, we should say that's not what I mean. That's okay.
How do we go with someone? So we're talking about EV cars, we're all excited. Everyone's even Ross is getting excited about electric cars. But we're at an article sort of middle of a couple of months ago from the CEO, I think it was, of Alpina who do a lot of work for the VW, says they've got no intention and there's no demand for electric vehicles yet.
Not in Alpina land, that's not fair. They're talking about a very much thing. But so I'm flipping around a different way and look at Volkswagen Group and Port from Bugatti, it's just done with Renat. Yeah, true.
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