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Sep 6, 2020 1 hr 36 min

122 | Thoughts on All Out 2020

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One Pepsi Max. Oh thank you very much. I've got to do it to your arms. Well I hate that.

Well I don't want to. So flies. Oh Christ, you're a stick of the dumps over here. Fucking hell.

That was really... Yeah. There you go. What's this?

What's this H2O in front of me? So that's mine. Yeah, it's me work drink. I don't know.

Now I'm on my podcast drinker that's strong bow in a wash glass. It's Sous-E through. The water? No, it's lovely.

It's all been the conquench first I think. All right, so are we cracking on? We're cracking on. Yeah, we're recording.

So... Are we on... We're doing it as a reactor. No, one two two.

Let's keep counting on. Keep them ticking up. I like the achievement. What, I've taken on?

Yeah. Shall we count up all the others and just suddenly change to like 196 or something? Saturday, then, right? We probably should.

Nah. That's stupid. No, we definitely shouldn't. That'd be stupid.

A slightly nice special. Was back, wasn't it? It was and I watched it because if anybody mental enough, listen to the show we did yesterday, real, you know, you'd know that I was debating a tough choice. Whether to stay up and watch A.W.

And get up. Have a lovely game of golfing with me dad. Come back and then watch the show. Or stay up all night.

And then go and play again with golf. We know sleep. Ten points for the person who can guess which option I picked for. Definitely, definitely stay up all night.

Definitely stay up all night. I've had a cheeky half an hour on the sette. Yeah. Okay, back.

Actually, didn't play that bad. That's good, that. Even though I was sucking in oxygen quicker than somebody who sucks in oxygen. Feel like that's as much sense as you're gonna make on this show.

Yeah, I feel like I was getting into JR territory. Oh, there's one. There we go. There's one.

That's it. Drive for him. After I fucking stuck up for him. I'm severely let you down.

Severely let me down. And then on the second viewing on numerous occasions, he was towing that line. I was like, I fuck sake. You know, just completely like.

I mean, I don't know if it was a case of fucking, let's get this out of the way, like the misery side of it. You know, I don't know if it was a case of E. E hurdles? No joke.

Like because we talked about it, I was a little bit more attuned to, you know, what he was saying. But I've never heard him come out with our sort of sheer. I'll guarantee that he's never, nearly guaranteed that he's never. He hasn't in recent weeks.

Do you remember when we were talking about him a few weeks? Go say now self-deprecating was. Yeah. And we were like, oh my God, he just keeps slating himself.

It's like he's found something, maybe he's got a new girlfriend or something. He's got a new fangled, I don't know. Bit of GNA say quite a bit. Yeah, maybe.

Maybe he has got that. Some of that chamfion polish has been really helpful. Maybe that's what it is. Probably not the right word.

Oh, Jesus. And I know. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, so just, I mean, you know, to insinuate like he's happy that a 22 year old's having wardrobe malfunction.

Not happy that he's hoping. Yeah, yeah. Wishful thinking. But like nobody else said it.

He's like, oh, is that a jay? I don't want to do a malfunction. Oh, maybe not or just wishful thinking then. It's like, fuck you know.

Talk about great, great, granddaughters. Great. It's fucking, just inappropriate in it. Yeah.

The thing is it always was inappropriate. Like when Jerry Lawley used to do it, you know, he used to, he's not music. And when I watch it now, it's just too hard to say. Yeah.

And you fucking grow. So not that that makes any difference. The problem with Lawley was he was fucking them all and marrying them all. I know.

He's so mingin'. The only thing that can't do is draw. Draw. Yeah, he's an answer.

Who's that? Yeah, really good character, your character. He likes that, didn't he? Character.

That's the one. Yeah. Artist. Apparently.

Yeah, because John Henry did like him. He did something the rest of the way, not our rest of the way. How old are you drinks? Oh, that's a good drink.

Just an every- Just an every- Just an every- Oh, memory. memory. memory. But like he did, he had like a booth where he would like do like- Eh, really?

rest of the characters, yeah. And then that Rob, should I swear in the version or whatever? Do you know the guy who does those YouTube videos of the paintings? That he came- Bob Ross.

Bob Ross. Bob Ross. Bob Ross. YouTube.

I don't know. Sure he was on a channel. Anyway, if you're not going to take it seriously, I'm going to move on. I am taking it seriously.

He's just a disgusting human being and he's not too sick. Yeah, well the cat he was like, my R.E.T. for about six months off. And she was about 12.

Gross. Absolutely disgusting. Just a violinist. Just sweaty man.

Sweaty sweat. Sweaty sweat. Greasy man. Sweaty bros.

They all do, don't they? Heavy. Sweaty industry. Yes, they're head to the ground.

I think- nice, nice stormsy. Stomsy thing. They're getting down with the- That's not- That's not stormsy. But I don't know where else it's from.

They're- because they're showing before the body hair. Well, the two busy doing sick pumps in the back before they come out, aren't they? True. Just going to flight those biceps just a little bit more.

Just get a sick pump going. Go out there. Yeah, because when they're walking around normally, they all look like Sheldon from Big Bang. They're thinking they're going to do a few sit-ups of Bang.

Yeah, they're just pucking- Steroids. Steroids. Yeah, that's my knowledge. Steroids.

Couple of sit- Little Bang, six-pack. Obviously not the case. Yeah. We're talking about shit.

Also shit. Shattered is the correct term. He's absolutely fucking shattered. But, I mean, over then- It's J.I.

I think we've talked about it. So I'll give that poll a little bit more because we've not had too many replies. So I'll give that a little bit longer. But we've had quite a few tweets.

And it was actually- Joe, I did enjoy myself tweeting along. But I did feel myself getting caught up in the pack mentally. Like when something, you know, like the J.I. thing, like I was like, Oh, and it made me more angry.

So I ain't doing that again. Twitter's not a nice place to go. It's fucking horrible. It's some of the shit that I read it.

Like because, you know, Man, it just- Some of the stuff that people come out with are so off the mark as far as what I think is going on. So I can't think of any specific examples. But like saying, you know, Oh yeah, there was one of like some fucking out of luck in the end, but they weren't like addressing it to us personally. But basically like watching the show, but like ragging on it all the way through.

And for some reason, because I'm an old man, it took me till three quarters of the way through the show to realise that I wasn't actually looking at the hashtag. I was looking at people that we follow. Just a timeline. Yeah, which was better because, you know, the ones that we interact with are normally quite open-minded about wrestling.

And normally I've quite interesting things to say about it. So that probably held back to- And I muted a lot of the porn sharers. Yeah. So I don't think there's many of those left.

Well, I actually went through it and unfollowed some people. I didn't wear them for the world. So hopefully that's- Most of the porn ones gone. Um, so yeah, it was a nasty place.

It was- What was I looking at that hashtag? I was like, Jesus. I think there was something in the water last night though, because Jericho even said it didn't. It started out special.

Like, why are you tuning into that? If you're not at that time as well when he did it. If you're not a fan of Jericho and no, it goes. It does a fucking single long for God's sake.

You know, we're not talking about an area where it's open for debate. He answers questions about his career. Usually the same ones every week, really nice. Get supportive, nice environment.

Even he had to say, Listen guys, you'd just be really unpleasant tonight. Just chill out, be nice. Even said be nice. Twice, yes.

It's like fucking hell. Like, it seemed like everyone was seriously. I think- I know that I'm probably going on a bigger thing here at the moment. And we might want to wait until later.

I'm fucking doing it now. I think that it's been this- A, W has been this bubbling sort of like, I don't know what the word is. Let's say, well, it's just been bubbling and bubbling and bubbling and everything's been fantastic. And everything's been great.

And all the matches have been like fucking, you know, five stars or as near as dammit. And every pay per view has just been flawless. And they've had all these amazing standout things. And I think that people are really big fans.

Like we are, but then I think people come along out of interest. And they're waiting and waiting for it to go wrong. That's exactly what I was saying. And as soon as it goes wrong, everyone just dog piled last night.

It's like we're just waiting. And then of course, one thing goes wrong. And then someone who fucking hates it, tweets and then it makes someone else maybe tune in who hates it too. Yeah.

It's like, oh, let's pick on it. And then it's like, then you're picking it and picking it and picking it apart. I think it was just a flood gate's open for all the people wanting to slide it off, but haven't been able to find anything. It's like if there were literally three things that went badly wrong.

Like there were went wrong last night, I think three things. Yeah. But I think that were completely like blown out of proportion. I think the only one that wasn't blown out of proportion was the JR line.

And the only reason why it is because he perpetuated it by saying grow up on that line. Like lighting up and he's like, fucking hell. Just apologize. Want to move on?

So we apologized and then said, OK, guys, no, let's light it up. And I was like, oh, my god. And did like a sticky out song as if to say, get a grippy soul. So it's like fucking hell.

You know what people are like. All he has to do is stop saying things like that. 99.9% of the things he says aren't that. So he can cut it out.

And it's dead easy to cut it out. I don't think it's winning any fans over because there are people who are like, apologists for him going, oh, everyone needs to light it. Remember the attitude era. But even they're not saying I want to hear it.

They're just saying, let's not overreact. But no one I don't think really wants to hear that anymore. I think the time has gone and everyone, even people who are a bit more open minded about it, even they're a bit like, stop, stop getting so angry people. I don't think they're defending what you said.

No one's defending it. That's the way I kind of was coming at it. Because I was like, oh, come on, I love me some JR. So my thing was, I love me some JR.

But you've got to cut this shit out. I'm just a bit exacerbated by it. Because I kind of tweeted it after I heard it. So that was my initial reaction.

And then after seeing the dog piling and then him doing the apology halfway through the show and didn't even acknowledge it on the show. Whereas, so she wanted to acknowledge the supposed Mahade mistake, which we'll get into. It was like he was trying to wind people even further. It's like, fuck is this what you're going to do?

You're better than this, guys. But I just had an image of, I'll get into the sweets after this. And when you were talking about the people coming on from where I didn't just wait for it to go wrong and stuff like that. He's like, this image is Tony Khan, just signing his office on his own.

And he sat there, nobody's gone home because they're all running around with the red on fire. And he's just there. He's just having a few silent moments to himself. And then his phone starts ringing.

And he reaches over picks up the phone and puts his two ears in. Here's welcome to the big leagues. Wow. Yes.

And puts the phone down. Absolutely. And it's like, I bet Vince was pissing himself. I bet they were all pissing themselves.

The thing is, it was always going to have off nights. And it's taken this long for him to have one that has been so wildly acknowledged as being a weak pick of you. I don't think it's weak though. I think it's been blown out of proportion.

I think everything's been blown out of proportion. Because we see like, botches all the fucking time. Everywhere, like, what's your mania every week isn't exclusive. You know, it does everything.

And WWE's only all the fucking time. Because like, I was kind of saying when we first started watching the first couple of matches, you know, when things were going a little bit wrong and all I kind of shit is, I would rather, they do things and botch them than not to try. Because WWE have got themselves into a scenario where they don't trust any of the performers to perform certain moves. So as loads of moves are banned, you know, as loads of things they can't do, you know, they're very regulated in their moveset.

They can't do certain things. Whereas for every other wrestling company, that's not the case. So when you've gone from like, what's when you've gone from watching like, NXT and you know, because even NXT's restricted to some degree, you know, when you've gone from watching that pretty much solidly for like six years with the odd new Japan in there and the auto age and that kind of thing, when you go for that, so then consistently watching another wrestling show, that doesn't have any of those kind of limitations. It is jarring.

I've just how fucking fast everything goes. Yeah. Just like Christ, you know, there was a sequence between the young bucks and jungle boy. That was like, I couldn't see what they were doing.

But I could tell they were jumping over each other's feet and shit. Yeah. And I was just like, I mean, I was knackered. But I was just kind of like blinking and you know, Robbie, I know you said to say, what the fuck happened there?

But yeah, I think that it's hard in it because we're coming from a position where like I have fully jumped ship. Yes. Like WWE for me now is the secondary show. And that is, you know, I'm the first to admit that I was ragging on AEW ever since they started calling a miss.

And why are they doing that? And it's just a WWE knock off and all this kind of shit, which I don't necessarily disagree with still. You know, there was no need, even though going back to it now, watch it's weird how like perspectives can change, you know, because like when Cody did the throne break a shit, I was like, oh, come on. That's pathetic.

Like, why are you doing that? And then when I got that paper view again, I was like, yeah, go on. It's got a sludge on my leg. But it is a perspective of 100%.

But it's being able to, it depends how open-minded you are. Because we've been able to say, wwwww are getting like quite a lot of things right at the minute. Yeah. Still not our preferred brand that we want to watch.

No. But they actually are improving in the Thunderdome, Roman Reigns thing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, like they're still, Brock Lesnar coming back to those heels and fur coat.

Okay, the heels and fur coat, there he is. Sorry, actually, it's not either. It's Brock or Rowan. Fucking hilarious.

But it depends if you're open-minded. And if you're not open-minded and you choose a side and you stick with it, you will rag on the other side. Doesn't matter what they get right. You can't judge them through any other lens or a really distorted their shit.

And I like this one and a comparison thing. Whereas I think you and I can go between them and we can admit when one's better, one week or one's doing something really good. Or that's great. That's going to be money for them.

Yeah, totally. And whatever. I just think some people can't. And I think the people who can't and have been against AEW got their moment in the sun last night.

Just because, you know, like, well, we'll go through it. But obviously, the matter already thing, totally through everything else. Everybody on the show I think we've thrown off. And I think that that was the moment, the non-fans but the watchers were, it started really piling on.

And then they just completely snowballed. Yeah, they did. And then like, there was the, you know, after the matter, I had the match, Jay. I was like, oh, thanks guys.

I was trending number one in the world. Is that all? Fucking hell. That's probably not why it's not because it's been a great show, Jim.

Yeah. Right, let's get some sweets. Let's see what other people think. I don't know.

Okay, where am I at? Okay, I actually want to show Jim. I liked how all the big men were blast in the battle royal. Lights both the books and the FTR sack matches.

Best but I do like tags. I'm with you there. I saw Lucha Bros. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rooind.

This, I didn't know he'd mean that by the way. We'll get to that. A little disappointed in the joke a much, but it was really hard to know what to expect. It absolutely was.

Gareth. It's a, it's a video game. So you call him Gareth? No, it's because I'm trying to read.

Read the videos. Gaz. Gaz. Gaz.

So at GameBanta, he does his own video game. Podcast check it out. Loads of watches, a general lack of energy. An underwhelming and underwhelming watches.

This is surely AEW's week is showing. Yeah. MJF versus Markzley was always going to be a boar fest, a boar, boring rest-hulled fest. Because MJF is a shit wrestler.

So the shitty vain effect surprised me at all. Does he reply? He does not. Adolph what you need to.

I think that's all you need to say. At Real Kyle Masters, it was trying to, last night you had some really good insights, which he's kind of led with here. I thought it was a decent show. The big factor here that affected both the wrestlers and the fans was the heat slash humidity.

I'll just interrupt you, and then you're going to fame. Whilst you're sending me the fucking brain of oxygen, big time. Dude, it's dangerous though. That's one of the reasons why you can't wear a mask in a gym.

Because it's too dangerous because you can fucking die. It's just a pain in the ass, the mask thing in there. You've got to do it. You're going to have to.

And obviously, they said about Matt Hardy accident. They were handing masks out to anyone who doesn't have one. You've got to wear it, you've got no choice. I only have to wear mine for 10 minutes on a train and my face is sweating.

I feel like shit. I was like blacking out on the other side. Yeah, I know. It's pretty dangerous.

It's tough. So we can say it's really hard to keep pacing a match with that kind of atmosphere compared to an air conditioned indoor stadium. The crowd plays a big factor in big pay-per-view matches, and it's tough when you want to be fine for something, but the heat and the humidity literally drains everything out of you. It's a shame really.

Besides that, the pay-per-view is decent. I liked it. Real, thanks so much like L. I've also got a little poll going.

I say little. Yeah, I've thought it's 14. 14, no, no, that's not bad. So what you just said, what do you think?

The show? Good, bad. Meh. I'm not surprised by the results.

I mean, you said most people will go from there if you give a meh as an option. So maybe I'll take that out. Well, I mean, it's a bit fancy. It is a bit, but I suppose if you just do good or bad, people might be like, mmm.

Oh, it's bad then. Yeah. But good, bad meh. So third place was bad with 7%.

So whatever that is, I'm 14. Go to 29%. Meh, 64%. I thought it'd be from the way that, you know, we saw people fucking going after it.

And I know like we've got a very small kind of portion of people. A bit like the old Nielsen Reigns just making up as they go along. So we can say that from the million people that may have watched it legally and illegally. 64% of those million thought it was meh.

Yeah. 640,000. Same rules apply. Same rules apply.

Beach. So what was I was doing then? Yeah, from the verbal like hatred and this is shit. You know, because it's sort of one guy like, you know, like, oh, anybody who's bought this paper, you should be arrested.

Like, I don't even fucking make sense. I don't even make sense. Are you watching it then? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. This is so shit that everyone who bought it should be arrested. I was, you know, not paper, you know, which is fine. Because that's what we do.

It's like all these people ragging it, have either bought it or illegally streaming it. Yeah. So it's like, no, you're watching it either way. So you're wasting your money, you're just wasting your time or both.

Yeah. So I've put it's all out slash Saturday night special returns. Now, just before we get into, yeah, she know what exactly I'm going to say. Oh, I don't actually know.

Oh, maybe not then. Just before we get into all out, the Saturday night special, right? I, because I was obviously trying to ask questions for maybe they fly by like 10 a second. So there's no way of getting in.

Yeah. It was all the top fans people who were. We do. We do it on Facebook.

Yeah. Yeah. So I was watching it on Facebook and it was literally like, it went from, I think I put, I put a question in it like 700 comments. And I was looking at it.

It's like, on most of the easier just either people being dickheads or saying, I love you Chris. So did you see some of the assholes who were commenting? Not at that time, because I did it when it was like 700 and put like a question in. And then five minutes went by and I just checked in.

It was up to like 5000 comments and I was like, right, there's no, there's absolutely no point in doing that. But there's a few of them were like, what the fucks Jay are talking about? What the fucks matter? Why was my ad allowed to continue and all this kind of stuff?

You know, the annoying thing with the Māhādi situation is the lack of information. And that was unfortunately what everybody fed off was the lack of information, but we'll get started. And what I wanted to get to, is to start the old, starting a special Jericho. Jericho puts up his like, you know, his music and I actually got to hear it this time, because it's not, you know, like it's life.

So I get to hear the music. And he puts up his Apple music. Is it Apple music? Yeah, yeah.

It's iTunes. I think there's Apple music now. And there was a particular playlist that caught the ante. Locking down at the bottom.

Locking down at the bottom. Please everybody who has maybe jumped on it from us to suggest to it. So, starting a special episode, sorry. Well, go and look at the name of one of its playlists.

Do we leave it there or do we say what it is? Say what it is. Okay. Jericho has a playlist that bear in mind he's done himself called DJ CJ party specials.

I need to know what I'm like to eat him and ask him. DJ CJ. DJ CJ. DJ CJ.

What the fucks. I'll bet you any money you put that together for his Sir Dot is birthday. DJ CJ. And it's Dot is like, please, dad, for the love of God.

Don't he's like, hey everyone, DJ CJ in the house. What's you talking about? I got these decks are special for you. I got to do some good news videos for the tactics, girls.

For the top 10. What was he saying? Flim flam. Flim flam.

He's actually going to be massive. Yeah, he actually got it like registered as some shit. Oh god, I'm like. Did you see by the way as an aside that WWE have registered a trademark for Wobbly Walrus?

Yes. I don't know what that is. Is it going to be Paul Heyman? Book it.

Yeah, in the five, I thought it's yeah. That's funny. That's some good shit. I can't wait to see him start doing the face shit.

Like what's going to be the difference between him. It'll just be funny. It'll be the same, but it will be more humorous. Which it'll probably be exactly the same.

Yeah, definitely. Because I don't think he really does much. What's the fiend going to do like his effects? I think the fiend has a bit of holiday.

It's going to break. It's a bit difficult just for a bit. And the fiend comes back when he's a heel again. Yeah, actually.

Yeah, that's the poem. Or if somebody's beating him up loads. Because like the whole thing of the, I know it's supposed to be talking about it. It'll be the whole thing about Bray why it was he got beaten.

And then when he was the title match, it would be the fiend who kind of helps him out. So now it can be like his, his best he may become an helps him out. I'll let you in fiend. So funny.

So funny. I'll let you in even though you carry my servo teds to the ring. Okay. DJ, DJ.

So I'm not going to go through the kick off. Because Janela getting the squash win. Probably by getting the squash win. Whatever.

That was the part of the night where everything was rushed. Yeah. Yeah, because they fit those marches into about 10 minutes. They need Renee Young desperately.

Because as much as I like Tony, she won a commentary as the host guy, he really struggles, I think. Do it, do it. Yeah. Because it's like it's very, it's very old school where it's now like we kind of expecting a bit of polish.

Yeah. And he's got that. Is it that sure? Yes.

Yeah. So she's quite good because obviously she's got the WWE glean. Yeah. But the, he's just, I can't remember what he said, but it was like, you know, constantly putting the pay per view over, as you'd expect.

But it's just like, yeah. So at the top of the hour, we've got a AW into all that. We're on fight. We're on a guy's watch Germany.

Hello, Germany. Hello, our Germany fans. Hello. Because, you know, don't tell your price.

Don't tell your shit. Don't tell you anything. Whereas like in the cold days of Renee Young and those guys, it's like survival series in an hour's time. It's $9.99 or three for your first month.

Baryen. She would transform it. Well, she was about to do you? I know she was.

Do you suppose to get rid of somebody? No. I think it depends, it depends what she wants to do. This is actually even it's doing it.

Because based on what Mox said, I think it's pretty fucking clear. You know. What was it you said again? It was something like, you expect her to stay in wrestling.

She's got a really long non-compete clause, even though she's not a competitor. She's been fucking getting into sports with MJF on Twitter. Yeah, I think it's pretty clear. You know, she's backstage.

You know, she's not just sat in the stands, cheering on a man. I'm sorry, I'm going to have to go for a wee. Well, you know, it won't be a podcast if we, if one or both of us wasn't a wee. Yes, she's going to be there.

Yes, I thought the volume. Even though I didn't enjoy it. So much. One.

So I, so Brit, Brit Baker against BBC. Well, now the first point of this is how ridiculously I laughed at the referee. That referee is either the funniest man alive or I'm being a bit tight and laughing at him. Because when he's like, when he rang the bell both at the start of the match and at the end, obviously there's no bell there.

So it's just like them in the ring area, just doing the bell over the video package. But he's just like, ring the bell, ring the bell. Right, okay, mate. Just, do you want something just makes you laugh?

Like, really like too much. Like, this is not that funny. Like, why am I still laughing at this two minutes into this match? Somebody's going in a bin at the moment and I'm still laughing at this rep, going ring the bell.

Stupid, but you know, I was tight. Well, it's making me laugh now. So. Overshoes.

Overshoes. I was just saying I was laughing at the referee ring the bell. I mean, I was pissing the case. Now, what I've put down in hopes wise, because that's what I do now, I take notes.

Is it could have been better? What are we still entertaining? Now, I've read something today that says that Brit Baker is still injured. Oh, okay.

So she can't have a match. Yeah. You know, I mean, it was pretty physical what she was doing. Yeah.

You know, it was like, but I don't think she got like, she didn't take bumps or anything. You know, she lost a match with a Gaston, she so. So that was interesting that she didn't, she still not fully cleared. Yeah.

But they still did something with them both. Yeah, because it seemed to me on reflection, like that would have been a dynamite go home match for the pay-per-view by the weekend. You actually don't go on the pay-per-view. It's not a pay-per-view match.

It seemed like a bit to promote a match. Okay. Yeah. Sorry.

So the Supernail thing is before the match. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That explains it. Except if she's still injured. So that is the extent of what the match would have been. Yeah.

Because I saw a lot of people saying this is shit. It wasn't shit. It just wasn't. It seemed like a sales thing for the real thing.

Like a little advertisement for the real match. It's what it seemed. Because it was very super short. Yeah, definitely.

I wonder if you're a few weeks away from that. Maybe. You know, it's like, she might have another two weeks off now. Big swirl, pick up a few dark winds, or maybe a dine might win, and then she'll be back, that's acting up in all that kind of shit.

Doing the old locked jaw. But yeah, I thought it was super entertaining. Yeah, it was really good. Big swirl is hilarious.

The both hilarious. Like, I'm a dentist. Like, I'm just puncturing them up. I think that's what I think they get comedy really well.

I do find myself throughout their shows. Last thing a lot. And you know, not always because they've meant to make me laugh. But you know, it's still entertaining nonetheless.

Yeah, I agree. I agree. Do you think they carry that on them? Yeah.

I would say so. It just it just didn't feel like a paper view ending to a few, it felt like a teaser for more. Unless you go straight in against either. Maybe.

Which you might do. Yeah. Ooh, fucking knows. Right.

Young box versus Jurassic Express. It's good. So for me, this match just in general makes it better than payback. Yeah.

For pure wrestling. Mm. Like, there's no, I don't think that can be argued. Like, there's nothing on payback that was anywhere near the level of a lot of these matches.

So, you know, to say that it's a shit paper view, it's still better than, Yeah. You know, it's still, I still think there was value from all you know. Which I probably should say then really. But yeah.

So I put, that was why it's, they did a really good job of putting over the loot gesaurus, I thought, because it has been very jungle boy focused for the last few months. Absolutely. And I think they put loot gesaurus over really well. Mm-hmm.

And he can do some mad shit for someone who's so fucking big. You know, and this again, he's coming from the guy who three months ago. I was just thinking. Let's go in.

What the fuck is this? We got this. All big time. Right.

Right. It's a shit gimmick. It is. It is a shit gimmick.

It's terrible. What he's been loot gesaurus for fucking youngs. For millions of years apparently. So that's not something that they've just given him.

That's his shtick. I don't know if jungle boy was jungle boy before hand. You know, but he was pre-pubescent before him. So you know, fuck knows what his ring name was or Jack Perry or, you know, whatever it is.

And Marco's son's got the most annoying voice in the history of voices. He thought it's there for a reason. I did actually see it's sweet. That was, that did make me chorkel.

Saying Matt, yeah, Matt Jackson now knows that glorious field of what it's like to super kick Marco's stunt in the place. And it was harsh as well. It looked really harsh. So we can take a bump.

But yeah, I really liked the match. I thought it was weird how the sort of rained, it felt like young bucks rained in the heel shit a little bit. I mean, we're doing the odd thing like kicking back of stunt and you're slapping around jungle boy and all that kind of stuff. But they came out, they did the pose, you know, and then obviously later on we'll get into later.

Like, it feels really weird. Like the whole elite thing and the whole heel elite, which is where I think it's going. It's like, you know, take hangman out of it. A mega a few weeks ago, goes mad and starts like doing heel shit in the books.

Like what the fuck are you doing? And then last week, it's the book. So we're doing it. And like, and it's like, hang on.

I'm a bit lost with it. I'm not quite sure what's going on apart from a breakdown. Yes. That's the only thing I'm clear.

Well, you know, we'll get to that because that would, you know, the thing that everybody kind of thinks is coming would send you away the breakdown. But yeah, I thought it was a great, a great match. Lucious Oros doing a dive into the crowd. You know, that guy can do anything standing moonsaults, you know, whatever, whatever you want.

My biggest criticism, though, is why do the young books do the BTE trigger as a finisher? I, it's, it's poor, isn't it? I think it's crap. Yeah, it's really cool.

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