124 Pumpkin Spice is Dead and Driving Off a Mountain

Chris and Kory kick things off with playful fall-food banter — are pumpkin-spice drinks past their prime, and what in the world are “dirty sodas”? Chris shared about tense drive up Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park, where fear of heights forced him to stop the climb and hand the drive (and vulnerability) over to his wife. It's a candid conversation about faith, fear, confession, and what it means to act in faith even when you don’t feel it. The guys reflect on the difference between emotional experience and spiritual practice — consistency and honesty in prayer, the value of returning even after failure, and how small acts (picking up the rosary, speaking truth aloud) are acts of hope. Gentle, honest, and practical — it's an episode on choosing faith, love, and hope especially when the feelings aren’t there.