He's staring at me. You know he's staring at me. No, he's staring at me. He's staring at me going, you're a chick lives to me.
I like the feel of your balls against mine, boogie. Give it a damn boogie. Jesus Christ, I gotta change my orientation over his stuff fucking bear. That is so awkward.
I like your heavy calls. What am I? Stuff he flexible now? You are.
You're stuffy curious. I'm stuffy curious. Goddamn it. Alright, you guys ready to do show?
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Hello and welcome to the Pertipod Castle Show where we explore the adventures of the Kinky Lifestyle Sex and Perversion. Recording live from the threshold of Libby, North Hollywood, California, and for an above perverted studio audience. Hello, parents! Hi!
I'm Kathy. I am Calvogie. You sounded like a muppet when you said that. When you did your intro.
I will. I will. I have a finger inside of Little Piggy. I have a finger inside of Little Piggy.
Oh, gimme! Oh, gimme! Man, I just was so determined to start professionally. And in the last two seconds.
Can we clack that? Hunger? Can we clack that, please? How long was that until we turned into crap?
Oh, there's one minute. How are you doing, Obogi? Damn it. I'm on the back.
Kathy, I am complete. I gotta say, I gotta totally say, last week, fun show. This week, lots of good stuff in the show. But I'm just, honestly, I'm a little bit surprised to actually see you here.
Where exactly did you think I was gonna bein' in sync before you speak? I saw the joy in your face. Why are you panting, Kathy? I'm so excited to hear your thoughts.
So, Kathy, why don't you tell us about your new little friend and how it was so amazing that you were able to separate yourself from your vagina and your new friend to get here today? I took a break. It's the only break I'm taking. Do you even have sensation in your labia?
I don't know! I can feel my labia. This has been buzzed up to your navel. It's numb, it's vibrating.
So, Kathy. So, I don't know. So, one minute. It's one minute to just go off the rails.
Thank you. Yes, I'll go. Oh, no, I'm just saying that I'm noting in two minutes Kathy's panting over here. There's all kinds of weird noises in the show.
And in the chat, I'm just like, what? I don't know anymore. So, what did you get? What did you get in the mail?
Ryan's gift arrived. Yes. And I came, I actually was excited to know. Yes, yes, I imagine that was the result of Ryan's gift.
Oh, good. Golly's gonna be that show. No, I was gonna get it tonight. Coming here.
And then I realized. I realized I'm horny now. I'm at the party Saturday and I see you across from my mom. Give it to me.
I have never had a grown mature woman hold my leg harder. I'm trying to walk away from the love lab. Just do a joy, a threshold party. And she's just literally hanging on my feet like a two year old.
Like when you work with kids and they sit on your feet and you walk like, God fucking Godzilla, that was Kathy going back to I want my toy now. The guys. What was awful about that entire interaction, besides the humor of you dragging my leg back towards the left was opening the box. Oh my God.
Because I had a camera and, you know, I'm watching in the back of my mind. All I swear to God, I had a 90% chance in my head that it was going to be a cat turd when you opened up the pucks. I swear that Ryan was just some dick troll that was just gonna, you know, put a cat turd or something in there and go, I got you a little funny, right? Because, but you were so excited.
That would have been horrible. The excitement that you had on your face, I'm like, God damn it, this is a cat turd. I got to come up with 170 fucking bucks and fight this bitch. I fucking see you.
I'm shaking the box and I'm just like, well, it feels kind of like, I hope it's the right thing. And so we started peeling it. You started. I gave you a knife and then stood back.
Watch the dust cloud. Just watch the dust cloud form and out came a purple. It's a purple. Lilo series two vibrator gift wrapped gift wrapped gift wrapped the Amazon is on a Senate second day air.
That was nice. It was really nice. I was very exciting and I loved it. And I don't know if it's because it's mine or because it's purple, but it actually felt better.
One of those reasons. Unlike that one that you have stuffed in all those other. Second hand one. It's been used.
Look at news just like. Very happy because I brought it back. It is. Thank you very much.
You guys get to use it. It's the first thing out of her mouth. Is she bringing it back? Yes.
We're going to get it right. Does that mean we get ours back? Here it is. It's that subtle.
It's a great sound. My labia is buzzing in reply. Don't ruin it. This is a really durable.
I cleaned it by the way. Did you? With your tongue? No.
See, here's the thing. I'm looking at me right now and every time you say you cleaned it she has a pouty face. Because I swear to God she just wanted you to pull it off your cunt and shove it in her. She likes you.
She has a filthy smile on her face. Look what Kathy cleaned it pumpkin. Look at you. You just don't get me.
I know. I'm not giving you a filthy vibration. Take the siri and shove it and give it back. That will be like her Christmas dress.
I'll stick it to her leg. From my labia to yours. See, that is the love we have here on Pivertied gas for each other. Well, thank you.
It's a paper dollar. They're just like going, why do we come here? Why? Why are we here?
See, reevaluating your life choices. That's what perverted podcast is all about. You feel better about yourself. Last we need another button.
Last made the button. Helping you reevaluate your life's choice. Now that if you can fit that. Jesus Christ.
So, speaking of buzz. Yeah. Did you see how that just fell flat? I don't know what transition you're trying to do.
I'm trying to make a transition. What are you doing? Ah. He did the finger gun thing.
So, I'm kind of on a little bit of a high. You know, just something that was very important to me. Occurred yesterday. Besides all the amazing kink and wonder and love and joy that I have in my life.
Yesterday, for the first time, I couldn't take it anymore because we have this band. We have the DDLG band and we've been practicing these songs. We have tons of songs. Literally, we have enough of three albums.
We have a lot of cool songs. Who does? And we've kind of gone into this mode where we haven't ever played. I mean, we have groupies.
It's kind of mandatory. You come in and you get naked. You master beat. And, you know, that's what we've done.
But we've never actually played for a group of people. And it's started to get kind of like, you know, because Bunny does other types of music. So, this is new music for her. So, she's a little, she's never played.
She's uncomfortable. And I'm like, look, this is bullshit. I've never been in a fucking band that rehearsed for nine months and never played with anybody or for anybody. So, I said it's happening.
So, she said, okay, I'll do it. And I just, we were at Soap yesterday. And, and you happen to be here. Soap, social of age players.
I'm trying to get the parties on Sunday. Yeah, the parties. Like whatever it is, the first or second song. I don't know what date is.
And so, I literally just said, I'm grabbing people in there and I'm going to fill this room. And we're going to fucking play some Zuya songs. And she was like, ah, and so I did. I grabbed, you know, some of the people had, you know, had actually heard some of the songs.
Some of the people that actually, you know, are subscribers to the Zombie Unicorn Apocalypse YouTube channel. And they've heard the songs and they like the songs. I'm like, there's people that like these songs. So, let's fucking play.
But Mew was okay with it? Mew went to a gig like, I don't know, a year or two ago with a friend and saw her friend's band. And then she got that little rock start that she thought, I can do that. It's time daddy.
Let's fucking rock some shit. Just get up there and fucking, I'll just fucking throw it down. So she's ready. But, you know, Bunny was very nervous about it.
And so I brought in like seven, eight people and I sat them all up here and we went and we just fucking, it was just, I can't, I don't know why I'm so excited because it's been so long since I actually played with a band. I've done solo comedy and stuff like that. But it was just so nice to like have my girls there. And we just played a few songs.
And everyone sat and they liked it and they clapped and they didn't fucking stare at their cell phones the whole time. So it was like all the things your friends are supposed to do. Just pretend you fucking like us for a little bit. And just, I can't tell you how much I miss playing live with a band.
And I'm like, you know, this has got to start happening. What do you guys play? We played the, shit, I don't know, what do we play? We played the everyday girl.
I don't know. The turtle song? No, we did not play the turtle song. The band song?
We did not play the final exam song. Do you switch your song? No. Well, for crying out loud.
I don't remember, oh we played right there. And we played, huh? Can you whisper in? Sparkles and glitter.
We played sparkles and glitter, which is amazing. Which is going to be an amazing video because it's going to be literally a barrage of littles running a muck. We're going to get like 800 people. We've already got fucking Drunken Pirate Orbeez scene because that's going to be Bunny's birthday.
It's going to be amazing. It's going to be a great video. That's going to be a couple of months. But so it was just fun.
It was just a lot of fun to play. And hopefully we played soon. Maybe we're just going to book some gigs on a Tuesday night. Threshold and people can come out and maybe I'll host a little party after so people can have a play party.
It'd be kind of fun. Alright, we'll see what happens. Fettlife.com. Bruises and bondage and pussies and dongs.
Fettlife.com. Consensual safe and sane-ish. I like this post. Oh well, hey, I don't know how to pronounce his name.
It's either Azrock or Asrock. I'm pretty sure it's not Azrock. You never know. Hi, my name's Azrock.
I got some pretty bad hymns. They're always there. So people start calling me Azrock. Mmm, I like me some medicated pads.
Yeah. I'm going to be regretting having given permission to you. I could just see he's listening right now going, hey, why I hate people. I'm sure it's Azrock.
I'm sure it's Azrock. I'm going to go with Azrock 2000. He wrote a post called, uh, need a reality check please. He says 20 or so years ago when I became active in the scene, there was a big debate going on about sexual play within BDSM.
There were the purists who were sure that sex and BDSM were not connected. At the other extreme were those who saw BDSM as a bit of kinky foreplay before a shag. The majority were in the middle. Sexual stimulation within a scene was fine, but it was just one of the many tools we had to to get the result we wanted.
Back then, if you were playing with someone, you never assumed sexual play was on the menu. In fact, you assumed it wasn't unless you specifically asked or were given permission. When did that change? Tell the norm that if you don't say specifically, don't fuck her.
Don't stick your fingers up or ask that permission is implied. Am I so out of touch? I like this because I like old points of view. You're old.
No, because then it just shows kind of the evolution in a lot of communities and a lot of Let me interrupt. I'm sorry. I got to say that the reason he has seen that I left it out of here was that he's been reading a lot of posts online by young women and he's surprised by their belief in the assumption that sex is going to be involved. So he's wondering, am I just an old fart who is way past my time now or is this what it's expected now?
I think once again, this is going to start out immediately what we experience here and what is experienced in other cities across the planet. So I don't know where this guy's communities are, but if he's reading mostly general posts, it's obviously pretty widespread. I definitely like the idea that I hear a lot of the opiate and he talks a lot about, you know, when dominance like basically loan out their submissives for play and it's kind of like a whole kink and whatever. And a lot of the like leather community was very big on the master slave community.
The strict old school kind of old guard DS was there was a lot of kind of permission given like you can play with my submissive, you know, type of thing. And then there was certain expectations and protocols that were kind of in place around those things where you just assume that if like even he talked about it in his post, you didn't mention that it was you just assumed if you were playing with somebody else's submissive, sex was not going to be involved. That it was pretty much going to be mostly like sadomasicism. So it's just need to see the evolution of negotiation is that's what's really I've really noticed since those older days where things were kind of expected that now we just don't expect them.
We just talked about it. The expectation should be that you have a conversation with the person prior to play and ask them those questions. And so I really I had a lot of things you just listen. I'm just waiting for you to go for it.
Yeah, yeah, go for it. Okay. I like the fact that we don't assume protocols anymore because that kind of always got people in trouble. You hear a lot of stories about that.
And I got when I first came in like nine years ago or whatever, I didn't know that a pet was actually something that was owned. I just thought pet was a cute name. So I bought a pet at a slave auction and started fucking Mac and not just fingering her and making out with her and she was like, ah, then and then the owner was just like, I'll just completely but her and I'm like, I don't know what, what did he do? I don't know.
She seems into it. And so, you know, because I didn't know and she didn't say no. So I didn't know that there was an expectation that I wasn't going to do anything sexually with her. And so you can eliminate that by just not expecting anybody to know anything if you're going to be in the situation where you let your submissive, you know, because that's a king for a lot of people are like, oh, I want to let this person play with my submissive or whatever.
And that's their thing. But just that shouldn't be an assumption anymore that these rules are going to be followed because we don't go by those, you know, we there's not training for those rules anymore. Oh, yeah. And if you're going by simply your readings on Fetlife, don't rely on that unless you've got a good cross section of several different communities.
Reading Fetlife Post is not an indication of any kind of normal assumption on the part of all kinksters. So I get it. And especially on Fet you will see a trend and you might see several of the similar posts or people with similar ideas or thoughts all coming up at the same time. That does not mean that everybody feels that way.
That's important to remember, especially on Fet because for the amount of people that are on there, it has a tight knit community kind of feel to it because in particular, the people who are posting because they're all the usual suspects. And so, but I also found it interesting that he starts off by saying, I'm just, you know, an old guy and I've spoken to, there are people here in the community. Thank goodness in Threshold who have been here for a long time who were here at Threshold's inception and they have boys some stories to tell and we forget that, you know, there was a lot of protocol expectation. It was very rigid and rigid.
It was actually, for a lot of parts, it was pretty fucking lame because you were categorized and that's when it gets into the, I like what he was talking about, the difference between there's sex and play, there's no sex and play. There used to be a very, there used to be two camps. It was the same in the spanking community that you spanking is not about sex and you don't have sex and there was all this rigidity that was fucking retarded. It was just lame.
You, there was no, you couldn't have it not like why not sometimes be sexual and sometimes not be sexual, you know, why can't we have. So now we're kind of like, Hey, we can have all those things and all of that just requires asking. Yeah, it's just requires talking about it first. Yeah, it's always unusual when one person or group of people declare themselves the purists, or of everything, can't, and they're the ones who are going to decide what can't be like.
Yeah, and then it's not about the harder it is to maintain that. And then it's not about the individual play. A lot of the rules and protocols that were socially in place are about fucking being something. It wasn't about the individual relationships.
It wasn't allowing people to just develop their own things. That's why there was, you were their dominant or submissive and there was these things and you were expected to be this and that. And we've kind of now gotten away from that in a lot of the communities where it's about whatever is going on between you and your partner. And so that part I really like about the evolution paper at all the DOs.
I was going to say it just seems like there's often a rush to get to the finish line of things. And so I think something I see a lot in post from I would say, I mean, it's generally it's about young girls. So girls 18 to 20 something talking about like, I didn't know that I could do this and not have to have sex with someone. And I wish someone would have told me that I didn't have to accept all this stuff that I didn't really want to do.
And I'm always like, why wouldn't you know that you didn't have to do all that stuff? Like, I don't know if it's hard for you to project my mind back to being an 18 year old girl again and thinking of that innocence because I don't think I really had that gene. I was a little more jaded and hard because I grew up in LA. But I think the idea that that is a common enough thing that happens where people do feel like they have to kind of put on this front and be like, oh, I know what I'm doing.
I totally know what's expected of me. And it's OK that this guy's doing this thing. I'm not really cool with it. I guess it's just how it's done.
And getting stuck in that assumption of like, well, I guess the play is sexual and I guess I just have to accept this toll if I want to play. And it's really not. And I always try to when I run into people that have that experience, I'm like, wow, I'm sorry that happened to you. And it shouldn't happen that way.
I don't know why people are rushing to get to this collared slave thing before they get to know the person first because everything's an exception. They just like the fantasy of it. And they read some romance novels. It's like you go to a club and you want that tonight.
So you tend to rush to. I want my master to nice. I'm going to get it tonight. And it's like, no, you got to take the time to get to know someone.
But you want the quick fix. So then shit happens. Yeah, what's the good post? What?
Even today's not this is nothing to do with age or even today. There are people who say, yes, I want to believe sex should be part of the king scene. One has nothing to do with you. See, that's when they say it shouldn't be part of the king scene.
Fuck you as my Instagram response. How about that? Fuck you. Please record that and whatever.
You're completely okay to say, I'm not interested in sex with my king. And I know lots of people that threshold who are like that. But we don't have as many people that are sitting there because like I said, then it has nothing to do. It becomes a religion.
It's just about your fucking religion and you want to be right about this thing, which is great. I understand that. But fuck you. People are going to have their relationships out of have them.
If people don't want to play sexually, then that's great. You just need to self-advocate and say, I'm not a sexual player. And I know a lot of women and men who are submissives that have on their profiles. I don't play sexually.
If you're looking to play sexually, that's not what my king is. Or I have a relationship already. This is what I mean. I'm a rope bottom.
I enjoy these things. So I just like what paper doll says. And hey, here's your next rule. You don't have to play sexually.
That's it. You don't have to. You may get rejected for that because the person wants to play sexually and that's completely part of the process too. But you're not obligated to play in any way other than what makes it work for you.
And the only caveat to that is to negotiate. To make that happen by negotiation. Yeah, absolutely. I post.
Thank you, Aserock. Have some meat. You're dick. Sorry.
You know, he's just going to be like, I fucking hate you. You know, a lot of times when I can't pronounce it, I will tell them. And this time I forgot to ask him how you pronounce it. I'm sure he's going to appreciate your forgiveness.
I know. I could have avoided now all of my friends calling me Aserock for... Sorry. I know.
I know. Jesus fucking Christ. I'm sorry, Aserock. I feel bad now.
You're just in this afterglow craziness since you're vibrating. My lady is still vibrating. Just send him a voice code of your masturbation. Are you going to make a featured orgasm with your new vibrator?
I might. I might. I will not promise anything. Will you say that was for a perverted podcast?
No. Did you on yours? I didn't. But you know, because I'm here.
Thank you. My name is Gabby and I approve this podcast. I approve this orgasm. Alright, what do we got?
We have an email from Little Princess who wrote to us and said, I love the podcast and I listen to it every day to and from work. My daddy was the one who introduced me in this lifestyle and he asked me if I had listened to your podcast. I started listening to it when you were on your 100 episode and now I have listened to every episode two times. Oh my God.
We're just interrupting here. I'm going to say that honey, that makes you a PP zombie apocalypse master. Echo, echo, echo. That's right.
That's why you listen to everything twice. We had to come up with a fucking name for you. Either that or you have Alzheimer's. It's just new and fresh.
That's what it is for me. People are like, hey, remember that show? No, I really don't. I have no idea.
Sounds like something I might say. She said, continues as I think my daddy loved your show because we have the same age difference as you and Mark. The reason I'm writing you the seniors because I want a button. I love buttons.
My work bag is filled with them. I live in Sweden. Is that a problem? I would really want one please.
Have a nice day and keep doing what you're doing. I love you, Kathy. And boogie. Fuck off.
I believe you told them. Just write on. Give me a button and fuck off. I'm telling you, we need to get organized on giveaways because we never get any responses to when we make requests.
We have tons of responses. Literally like 400 fucking bam. Big numbers for D.A. One from Sweden.
Give me a button. And some people were like, tell boogie to fuck off. That was great. Now we should send her two buttons.
She'll get to. She said send her two. And she's an echo. She's a PPZan echo buddy.
How much does it cost to mail? We'll figure it out. I'm sure you can't cost more than six. We're sending it media mail.
It's going to get there in six weeks. We're sending it on the China crate. They put that thing and just sits on the shipping container for like 19 months. Your tiny little buttons will be at the bottom of a crate.
It's pretty much just, you know, you'll forget that you ever ordered it. You're like, what the hell is this? Wow. Look at that.
It's like Christmas. What's that guy who died on the air? You probably. There's some boogie.
Oh, by the way, oh, I'm good. I know. What? Hi, I'm good.
How are you doing? Hello boogie. How are you today? It's very good.
I know. Before we get into some of Unger's events that are coming up, Unger, it needs to be said on a show so it can be said so it's official because I'm not going to write it down. Wow. Unger.
Unger. Come on, I'm here. What are you waiting for? Put down the cookie.
Put down the cookie. I'm the cookie. I'm the cookie. Unger, I just want it to be said, if I die on this show, I want that show played.
Of course. If I do, I'm expecting the same from you. If I keel over on this show because we were talking about because Kathy's like, should you be eating all those chips that's salt, you're going to have a heart attack on the show. Because she's open.
You know, she's been dreaming. She's been dreaming to my guess. Now why I said that. And I said, if I do die on this show and I start gurgling and pissing and shitting all over myself, I don't care.
If I die, you fucking save that recording and you play it and let people hear it. Of course. I just wanted to say, if I get a bio-electricity myself over here, at some point, you hear the zap zap in the show dies and it comes back. If I die during the show, you do not have permission to air that fucking thing.
I will. If I end up catching fire spontaneously over here, I'm expecting it to be on the show and be played. Oh, it can't look. We just hear this sizzle and crack and look and the blue light turns on.
The blue light's on and I'm over here on fire. I'm on mute. Get sticks is enormously large jug of iced tea. We were talking about sticks is fucking alcoholic drink soda thing.
What is it? Gallifton. You don't want to be throwing it on fire. What do you do?
Get up there. I mean, I had a diacococ addiction for a long time and drank like an over a gallon a day. He walks in with his oxygen tank size fucking soda container that I have never seen like he's practicing for emphysema when he gets older or something. How big is that thing and what is in it?
Oh yeah, it's 100 ounces. A little while it was the largest one that the 7-11 had. That's not including what they used to sell like 10-12 years ago, which was the team golf. He has he and he.
No, it's the total. He's a total. So geek. No, like five, six days a week it's water and iced tea or whatever.
Water and iced tea. And the rest of the time? I guess I'm getting started. I guess I'm getting started.
100 ounces of whiskey moonshine. Fucking popcorn, satin. Goddamn it, I was watching the documentary. I'm sober, but I'd love to make some moonshine.
Goddamn it, you got it. It's a fucking thing. What? Let's go do that.
Okay. Let's go immediately put it up. Let's go. Let's just go.
So we can fill Stix's jug with fucking moonshine. That'd be... No, it's not a challenge. I'm not making a decision.
I'll take a challenge. I made shitty wine ones with the sugar in the yeast and the thing and it's sad for eight weeks. And I just ran and tasted like such ass, but I was so poor. Even I couldn't drink it.
It was horrible. Yeah, it was good. I was good. I'm sober now.
What? I'm angry. I'm cold. I have to turn that down now.
Tell us about your whole... I'm angry. I'm angry. I have to turn that down now.
Hey, what's going on? Have you not listened to me in the last couple of months every weekend? He's so angry. He's always angry.
He's the coordinator now. We knew this was coming, Cathy. The younger service on the board. He was happy for a while.
What's your name in there now? That's funny. That's fitting for the moment. Did you know?
No, tell me. P.P. Mod. Unger the Green Meanie.
Oh, well, that's why it explains a lot. So it's the Green Meanies. Did you find out what Green Meanies? No, it's just blue Meanies.
It's just blue Meanies where from yellow summer. I think I love blue. I think I like blue Meanie and Green Machine or something like that. I know you're a big hook pull guy.
I do enjoy them. They're really interesting experience. And down in San Diego club X is co-hosting with edge walkers, both of which are educational groups, much like threshold. So I kind of want to give them a call out.
Very good. That's next week. And that's the Saturday down in San Diego. And it's called Ritual Steel.
It's I don't know how many people are expecting, but over 100, they're also going to have big like drummers drumming while. Big drummers just a bunch of big people. Yes, it's really cool. Apparently it's a big part of hook pulls.
Big people. Big people. Yeah, with some hook pulls. Yeah, with some hook pulls.
Yes, nice. Yes, drums go on. Finally not get thrown out of a party. I told him about that last week.
So yeah, that's happening this weekend. And that's going to be an interesting experience. There's a lot of people in the area also hidden down for that. So hopefully some more people will come up.
Aren't you working on doing a hook pull experience here at threshold? I mean, the very early stages of planning a hook pull event here at threshold as well. So that would be where people can come. If they're interested in a hook pull, they can pay like $10 of the door and then maybe buy a little hook pull kit.
Make more than $10 bucks. Well, I mean, he's $10 bucks. And then if they want to buy the kit, you were talking about, right? And so then people who are interested in that, you don't want a bunch of looky-lose people just sitting there.
No, I don't want somebody to go, oh, it's going to be quiet. I'll go and take a room and do a normal impact scene. I don't want to. Yeah, no, no, no.
So this is this is a focusing on a whole event. You're going to be a part of this situation. Maybe needle pull if you don't want to try full on hooks, something like that. But within the realm of the more hook pull type scene.
Because it's a very different experience. I think that would be great. I totally support you doing that. That'd be pretty impressive.
Yeah. I forget about that. Let's talk about our own threshold is having an amazing event. Wait, is that the center?
Next Saturday? Next Saturday, because this Saturday, I'm not going to be here. Oh, and you know, I do all the things for you. You are bizarre bizarre bizarre.
I am bizarre. That's for sure. That's so fucking true. How about all?
How about all? Remember this? Oh, baby. Every time I look down.
It's like, what do you want? Every time I look down. Every time I look down tonight. Yes.
That's a good one. We're making fun of people's ages a lot in the chat. And I'm telling everybody. Dude, that was a cool jam.
It's like, how about all? How about all? Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Stop.
You could stop now. Do you like that? That emotion again? I know people that can't see it, but it's fantastic.
Wow. It's very good. Come on. That's my two cats fucking, and I'm presenting it to the world.
Wow. When is bizarre bizarre? Was our bizarre? The following Saturday from 1 to 7 PM here at Threshold.
It is a huge event, full of vendors right before Christmas. It's a great time to get some amazing deals on. And we're going to have more vendors. We've had quite a while.
We have 17 vendors, I think. And new vendors. I know the thing. He's not going to, oh, knife sharpener and sharpener.
Knife sharpener. What is wrong with you? Still we're going to get in black, blue blacks, but still. And knife sharpener.
Yes. Professional knife sharpener. That is terrifying and wonderful at the same time. I just picture a bunch of fucking idiots walking around with freshly professionally sharpened knife, but he'll also go.
Look, Trippin over here. He did a great job. Stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, but you will also dull the knives. There's some people want a knife.
Professional old. What do they do? Just tap it gently with a hammer? Don't know exactly what he does.
He's fixing it today. He's fixing it enough people. Cut some bone. And something we haven't done in a while, we're doing a knife play taster among the many other tasters We're doing that day so we're gonna sit him up across from a knife play taster with not with the sharpened knives No, okay.
No, I've already been looking at those knives That's it's yeah Don't you know for somebody who you are saying we Well when it comes to these things you don't want anybody even near danger not at a public event Not a public event not a public event. So no, we already joked about it No, I make the joke so people will understand when we say there's a knife play booth. Oh, no cash art playing That no, they're gonna be dull knives and it's not gonna be a cutting knife play A lot of people don't know that when they talk about knife play everyone thinks you're gonna cut me Which is why you want to come to the taster booth here so that they can teach you how to do it If you are in Los Angeles, yes, but if you are in Roanoke fucking West Virginia Then I take no response Is that the right place Roanoke West Virginia? Why am I think I play there?
I don't know I just had some weird flashback I did a gig in Virginia with the Band-Aid a record deal with What you doing with Stix's leg? It's draped all over That's disgusting. That is so disgusting Disgusting why you like it when tiger spreads her legs for you the sticks is doing it too. What's the deal?
Hints the word sticks and legs spread. I don't want this to go together I don't want this to go together. See this is better paper doll kicks her legs up there Wait, we still have to ask Unger about the stuff he's doing in the chat room. You know what's going.
Oh wait Unger Yes, what okay? This is actually topic. What's the ask that wait? I'm sorry He was head banging I knew he'd warm up to that eventually Unger do you have a question for the chat room?
We did ask a question. We got a few answers the question is I am the professional no wait that was alone. No, no the professional with the Okay, I love him so much. All right.
Do you have a unique or eccentric question or requirements that you discussed during see negotiations? Love this question to go to one unique like his anal-fisting, okay If you're if you're negotiating for the first time that might be a bit unique might be a bit Well, I mean you and I talked about this like we'll always throw out some extreme thing to just kind of see where their head goes With it. Can I shave your head? You know or something like that because then you're you know see they're like hey No, you want people to self-advocate and then if they you know don't get the joke they walk away and you're buttered But so yeah, so sometimes you'll throw out stuff like you know you talk.
Oh, you like a spanking and so then we'll just move right into anal-fisting, right? And usually that's a no, but I've had literally had some people like well, you mean tonight? I'm like I'd like your phone number. Yes.
Can I get that? I'd have some girls that you need to meet so you said you had the I ask I don't think it's an unusual question, but I always get strange. You look so nice this question Is there any name that you don't like to be called that's maybe a trigger for you? Yeah, I think that's a really I like calling people names and it's not always a humiliating thing sometimes It's just I like calling you little girl like calling you bad girl I like whatever and yeah the little girl on the bad goes actually really triggering for people that aren't into the thing yeah, it's not I so now I'm like just let's just start off with that question.
What can't I call you right? We'll go from there. What are you getting in the chat room? Unfortunately, I haven't got too much because we're making fun of everybody's age That's the chat room for you We did have Pollyanna that that makes a requirement not to touch her nose or feet No, this is a unique one so definitely no Nazel hook to hold on to nice no nasal hook to tell actually that creative explorer has when you can't put a finger in his ear But that's that's if you can't you can't get very touched in the head Yeah, he's like you touch my you play my in my ear and I'm liable to elbow you in the nose like he'll tell you right away I can't I think that's good people talk about their sensitive spots, you know in the nose, you know Maybe she's been bapped in the nose a few times So it's just it's real triggering no you have like no like with a fucking rolled up newspaper or something Anything else that's interesting answer in there Cigar search into something that somebody else in there brought up.
Did you do some cigar huh? Didn't you just sit our service this week? I did a little bit of cigar play yes nice You just do cigar service you tapped out some ashes on someone's tongue I barely touched ash to their tongue just enough so they would taste it though. Yeah working Put your side to the cigar and someone's not where I get a two-inch ash on their tongue, but that's out of the other trip I see so you're a patient and methodical man evil.
I just a evil in there. I can be very much so Good question We don't have an intro for that no, okay, we never have polyscented you started researched for this what I did I got all pumped up last week and I played live in front of some people I feel like I need to be more I gotta be better I gotta be better. I gotta be better. I can't just be a hag we want listeners well about a month ago We started this was gonna be four segments of polyscentity.
We were looking at a article that Dr. Justin lamella wrote who he's a faculty affiliate of the Kinsey Institute and the author of the blog sex and psychology He and his colleagues surveyed 3,500 polyamorous adults online and published the results Basically what it was is that they didn't find any kind of or any really comprehensive research study So they did their own About the types of relationships and poly and pretty much everything they came up with four different findings We talked about one of them last month and this month We're gonna talk about number two which is the types of relationships in poly and how they vary more than people think So he talks about different kinds like if you're not familiar with polyamory There's a triad which is three people who are romantically involved all at the same time There's also what's called a V in which one person has relationships with two people But those people aren't two people aren't involved with each other and this is what they found about that though most of our participants made a primary or secondary distinction Not all polyamorous believe in a relationship hierarchy Moreover, V's and triads are just a couple of the many forms poly relationships can take for instance Sometimes these relationships extend well beyond three people in short There are a ton of different ways to do polyamory So frickin lubia. That's the truth and we're a hooter. We're an OPP triad unicorn farmer.
You didn't make that up Nope, that's I'm just totally making that up. I'm not I got a list your research did Research not that I'm big on titles, but you know, it's it's fun to at least have a point of reference So one of the big new poly books Well, I guess it's not that new anymore is more than two because anyone have you read that yet? No, we got to get that book Because it's supposedly like there's ethical slut which was kind of the standard and this is like kind of some different takes on that And it covers some things that may be more covered in ethical slut And so it's really I've heard a lot of people say that this is a great book to read And they have more than two dot com so and on there they had just a lot of reference material and and one of the things is they had all these lists of these different types of relationships like adult Buffet cellular family cluster marriage DD at the don't ask don't tell types of polyamory the hundred mile rule Non-exclusive monogamy one penis policy open marriage parallel polyamory poly Trothism primary secondary sorry poly Fucking just endless and all of these are different types of polyamory Yeah, like adult buffet a specific group of type of group sex Which a group of consenting adults gets together for the purpose of sec and each person in the group is free to have sex with Any other members of the group he or she chooses kind of which led in obviously to the swinging type of polyamory Which I think a lot of people think that is the main polyamory like a lot of non-kinky people when they think of non-poly people When they think they think oh everyone just bucks everyone and you just go to there and that's just like one time And then there's other ones that were not necessarily looked on very highly by the community I actually just saw a post I think it was in Facebook or something where someone was talking about oh they you know They went and picked someone up at a bar and They were the other person was on a don't ask don't tell situation where basically you can have sex with other people I just don't want to know about it, you know and so this person felt really offended You know because obviously they pick someone up at the bar They should be ready to have a relationship with them So to find out that this random person they picked up at a bar had a don't ask don't tell policy with their primary relationship Was somehow upsetting and but hurting which I thought was complete bullshit I mean if you're dating someone and you're like and they're in a don't ask don't tell and they say hey I'm in a relationship and I just don't talk about whatever that's fine You're getting to know someone to date them But if you're picking someone up in a fucking bar to fuck them and they you know really you're gonna be upset to not get all the Like they're what about your responsibility to ask? What do you have a relationship with someone is there somebody you're in a relationship before I fuck you random person that I met in a bar drunk Which in title fuck was this I don't know it was just somebody that was saying how offensive it was and I'm just like hey Okay, so and a lot of people in the poly community don't like this because obviously don't ask don't tell Is a really good chance that they're just cheating So then there's the the 100 mile rule.
It's not cheating if you're on vacation where and there's people who are maybe long-distance You know military they're away and the spouse, you know, they've just agreed Hey, you know what while you're there. I understand you have sexual needs if you're if we're far away from each other for a long period of time Go ahead and play and and that's until they come knocking at you. That's it. That's it.
Yes So let's say there's parallel polyamory a style of polyamory in which the relation in which the relationships a person has are largely Independent of one another and there may be little or no contact or relationship between the person's various partners And we have a lot of people that we know that that they have their relationship with someone and then but they each have their own relationships with other people that aren't necessarily involved like me and bunny and I we are probably pretty triad-ish Because we all have a relationship with each other so I have a relationship with each of them and they have a relationship with each other as well So there's just so many I mean there's just so many of these interesting Oh, there is and I think I look that is their second finding because it is that prevalent out there You start with polyamory and as it as it started to progress in mainstream culture It started to get more crazy like this so you would find these sites who would start to catalog all what all of these terms were and they Continue to be bastardized over and over again because someone else would pop up and say well That's not the way I do it so let's call this give it a name and that list grows and grows and grows But I like the fact that I mean I don't like it. Obviously, it's a very religious mentality I don't like the way you're doing it so I do it this way and this is the better way That's obviously bullshit But I definitely like the idea that there are these giant lists where people can identify with what they identify with so people that are seeing Like when they see my favorite one that was listed which is sorora I can't pronounce it sorora polygon or whatever And that's a form of polygamy where a man marries two or more women who are sisters That that's you know because that's our roleplay basically Basically that's the roleplay of our fucking thing But when people see something like that and then they see that right next to triad Which is this type of relationship and you know primary secondary which we'll get into say polytra when they see all these different things They get to go oh, I Don't have to be this or that one thing kind of like we just talked about in the last topic, right? You know, I'm really proud of you for doing research. So that's pretty awesome I get out of a paper Yeah, I mean I read the ethical slot too and it did a hardy so it's really like a good one to start with if you're gonna start I don't know but more than to I've heard a lot of baggage about it kind of specifically for what you're quoting now And that it's giving you this dictated list I think once you start to define it I almost gets a little exhausting and you know you start to try and figure out how normal you are and try to fit into some kind of Model of respectability and I think that's a little hard is here You're sort of wanting to fit somewhere and I get the urge to want to do that and be like well See what I'm doing is normal See like there's a book that has me on a list and I fit here But I mean I think the thing about polygonery is that you're kind of inventing it as you go And so like yeah, but I think you think people need some somewhere to start yeah But you're new and when you're new into something and you just don't know I mean that's why people do the dom sub What are you kind of thing?
I've been reading just like a history book like look at ancient Greece or like you know like Egypt or something You're gonna see these different relationship models How like you know marriage was for property passing down and and like you could marry sisters because that's how you do it Like if in the Bible I think if you die or you're you know the brother of your husband is this I don't know I think a court of true I mean so there's a lot of really jacked up relationship models And we're kind of being all moderate and you know navelgazy about it now with trying to define it and give it pretty labels and inventing these Polys a little whatever words it's like what's old is new again I mean I don't know that I think it helps from when you're kind of looking at starting out going I have these feelings and I want to try and figure out if it's normal so that does give you a framework to work with But I just wouldn't want to get I'm a unicorn farmer, but I'm doing it wrong And that's kind of when we talk about this at least I talk in nauseam about titles being bullshit And not you know having anything that you stay on so but I do like the idea that people have a point of reference because a lot of times When you're confused, I mean that's basically in therapy You don't need fucking therapy your every cell of your body knows how to survive as a human being But therapy helps you unlock parts of yourself And so you get some of those names and some of those things that help you understand and then hopefully you don't Stick with those and then you continue to grow after that so I mean like marriage being the model like you know I did that and I'm like well I guess I'm doing this wrong You know I'm a failure that or even now like the reason I'm polyamorous relations now is my libido doesn't always match my partners So sometimes like he might want to date anything's like I should go out and date so that he can date We feel equal about that, but it doesn't really work that way like I may not be in a dating frame of mind when you know He wants to date you know the people so I'd be like well I don't know am I doing it wrong according to this model or is it okay for me to just make my decisions because I'm an adult You know so I don't know it's definitely Fun to read that stuff and sort of it just don't get too tied to it like it's not a religion Totally agree. It's just more choices more places for people identify. I love it You can go all the way from monogamy to the other end of the spectrum and be a relationship anarchist I know a couple what is a relationship? Don't give me a fucking label don't put any term on me.