Oh, it's weird. Oh, it's bizarre. It is just like a pokey stick. With a little mushy chocolate mushroom cap on it.
Yeah. Alright. You move? It works for me.
Alright. Why would you? Wait a minute. I was like...
I was very chocolatey. I was insanely chocolatey. It was. I had my spinker pucker.
Did you just spinker pucker? You just chocolate pucker. Did you? Yeah.
That's what... Now I just spit. Sorry. Yeah.
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I'm Kati. And I'm Calpuggy and we got Unger and Ann and Mew and Bunny and now there's some nudity and last week was just the three of us. It was just the three of us. It was good though.
It was a good decision. We are here on show 127. We got a lot of cool stuff going on, some really good topics. And what did you do this weekend?
Did you get some dick? I remember dick was bad. You said you were a little low. I was in vicinity of the dick, but did not get any dick.
You were. Because he was busy with a new computer game. Ah. Ah.
Ah. Ah. If it's not, if it's not an ice cream sandwich, it's a good video game. Man, I want to just tell you the true love that I'm feeling.
You're not going to get trouble because you're going to hear this. He should hear that. No way. Hey.
Let me tell you something. Bro. Bro. Kick with the dick.
All right. Because if not, I got to deal with this bitch chick. That's true. Kick with the dick or she bitch chick.
So just fucking Jesus. Dick, a game. It was Sunday night right before I had to get some sleep. So I could get a sick, sick, morning.
So you're like sleep dick, dick game, game sleep. Oh yeah. So maybe I should fuck my sleep. And I'm all actually I'm just going to go in and lie down and masturbate.
And he goes, okay go ahead and do that. I'll get a bigger, bigger dick. Oh my God. I gave up the dick.
Because I was tired. I just went to masturbate. And you had your little friend. I just fucked up.
Took my hours, bugga. Hours. Chacog, chacog, chacog. Got a little Mary Olson thing.
Oh my gosh. It's a butter churn. Oh my God. So that's so well.
Sorry. I thought I was going to get some better info out of you. We really don't talk much before this shows recently. We don't talk anymore.
We just don't. It's probably better. We're better friends now. We're just better friends.
It's kind of like a new video game. You have a video game. What's the name of your game? Animal crossings?
Okay. Check this game out. And she's obsessed with it. Okay.
This is a game where she makes friends with animals. The only way she makes friends with animals is if she gives them shit. She has to give the animals things and then the animals are like, okay, I'll be your friend. It's like we're life.
They won't even go in your house unless you have the right furniture. And it's like, this really isn't showing you the true value of friendship. And she's like, oh, postal to that you're playing where you whip out your dick and piss on people. And I'm like, wow.
I'm like, postal to is different. Yes, you unzip your pants and urinate on everything. You could just literally walk around the entire world of postal to. It's an older game.
And I said, well, at least everyone knows I'm not their friend. Am I right? No. Postal to you can't compare it to shallow and...
Yes, smoking. Good evening, younger. Good evening. How are you this evening?
It's a wonderful day. It was a very good weekend. He sounds like he should be wearing a smoking jacket. Sorry.
And I got the feds to go with the smoking jacket. Oh, yeah. Sitting in a big wing back chair with reciting the rainbow. With a Calibesh pipe.
What the hell's a fizz? It's a hat. Isn't that the like... The shrine or the shrine or hat?
The tassel thing. That is a really retarded looking hat. What's your name in the chat room? P.P.
Mod will eat your soul. Oh, he will. He will eat your soul. I did actually M.U.
and I. Besides her amazing game that she's playing, Saturday was actually our annual blood play scene. That she gets once a year. Can you only get it once a year?
Because I don't want her to look like a crocodile by the time she's like 28. Because she scars. So she would love to do blood play like literally every other day. She loves blood.
She's obsessed with blood. But she does scar. And then putting a suction cup on it. You have a very good likelihood that you're going to a scar.
That's actually a good thing to bring anybody with listening. You have no idea how much you will scar when you are doing needle play, cutting, any kind of branding. Some branding is not under, like, cell popping. Some people who are going to scar.
Some won't. Yeah, I start any time you're going to break skin, you have a chance of scarring. Yeah. You can scar for painting.
Absolutely. Wow. So it was not so much. I haven't noticed a lot of scarring.
Some people will bruise but it's a very small dot. You can't. Yeah, you can. longer if you're pulling on it or something like that you can.
But, or if you're cutting with them or something like that you can, there's always a chance. Okay. Sure. What, Anand's making some, can you just go to the mic and tell me what you're trying to say?
You're just giggling. What that sign language? Like doing this like finger, fuck in the middle of her hand. Or if you bend it in funny skin.
Oh, like you did. Oh, thank you. Just go. Thank you for remembering that Anand.
Yes, yes. If I do needle play on bunny and I actually bend the needle inside the skin so that the entire like shoulder lifts off like a zombie apocalypse, it did not scar because I took it out very, very quick. Thank you for that. So you guys did your annual blood play?
I did the annual blood play and it was pretty cool. It was really cool. She brought her stuff lobsters in because now she has like 11,000 stuff lobsters because MUSE obsessed with lobsters. You want to earn love in MUSE Life?
See, that's our friend game. So I give her lobsters and she's my friend. I said that. But I figured it was.
Did she eat lobster? Show you lobsters. Yeah, look at her. Yeah.
She will make the distinction between friend lobster and food lobster. They're all food. You are, you are, you are my close companion and you. Hunter is in a very, I'm trying to try to eat MUSE lobsters.
They're all food. He says. I'm not used to. All food.
But no, it was really cool and we set up the whole medical room and put up the tarps and, you know, a lot of tarps and then just did the scene and it's just, I don't like blood. I'm not a blood person. I actually get really, really squeamish unless I'm in that moment. Like literally she was covered.
It looked like a fucking murder scene. You know, you cut and you pull the cups and they fill with blood and then you dump them on them and you play and in the moment, like a first responder kind of moment doesn't bother me at all. Blood clots, the whole thing, squishing them into her, all of that stuff I can do. I just, like right now I'm like going, I really don't want to talk about this.
So it's just weird that we have that but she loves blood. She lives for blood. And then of course she was playing with the blood and then she took it and she saw, can I please put a hand print on your head because I'm bald. So of course she's like, spla-pla-k and now I have blood all over my face.
By the way, we don't get tested about every four months and we had just got our tests two a week ago and so we are free to play with each other's blood and that's fine. But it was, it was really cool and it is very connecting and of course it scares some people and some people are just, you know, really turned on by it. But it was cool. It was real cool.
Fett, Life.com, Ruses and bondage, endoises and dawns. Fett, Life.com, consensual safe and sane, ish. Alright, we have something from puppy from, I think just from Germany, I had to ask her at present, I learned from Asrock not to assume the pronunciation of a name. So her name is puppy, she wrote something called Exit Fantasy, Enter Reality.
She says many of us have this fantasy. To be here to have a slave in the basement, a heavy collar around the neck, arms tied behind the back, senses deprived, obediently waiting 24 hours a day to be taken out, used and abused. When Sir and I came into contact about two years ago, it was the fantasy that became the focus of our conversations. We both got heavily turned on.
But what if this weren't a fantasy? If this was my everyday life, 24-7, well I think this answer is simple, we would be terrible psychos. I'd lose my job, my friends, my social life, hell I'd lose my children. I would get heavy depression, severe chronic illnesses and I'd hate the man I once loved.
That does not mean that we have given up our dark and perverted little fantasy. We'll keep it alive and one day when the kids have moved out, we'll realize this huge turn on of ours and he'll lock me away in his basement. But be sure that he'll let me out again as soon as it's time to prepare dinner. I, of course, agree with her.
Anybody who's had these obscenely morbid fantasies starts to weigh the two and wonder, well, if it were real life, there's no way I could do this. I remember once, a long time ago, Creative Explorer started and I started talking about what our darkest fantasies were. He was as usual, completely upfront. He goes, yeah, I have this really dark one and he starts explaining to me this unbelievable fantasy and he says that he's had it for a long time and that it's something that he works on and it's his biggest fantasy.
To be quite honest, it kind of scared me. It's not supposed to because I'm supposed to be this open-minded, kinky person who understands perfectly well with the differences between a fantasy and a reality and I myself found myself thinking, oh my God, what the fuck did I get into it in a relationship with? What if he really is going to do this to me? Oh my God.
And then it didn't last more than a few seconds. But I found myself falling into the trap of that embarrassing way. It's embarrassing to say this, that non-kinky people might, when they hear what we do, when they don't understand that we know what the difference between reality and fantasy is. And it was quite a learning experience for me because I really did start to, as much as I didn't want to, understand what a vanilla or non-kinky people must think when they hear, oh my God, somebody, oh my God, you set somebody on fire, oh my God, you do those weird things because the first thing that pops into your mind is where is that lying drawn in that person's mind?
At what point will they actually want to do that for real? And I know this is probably not what you were thinking I was going to say, but when I read this, I immediately remembered he and I had that conversation and me thinking, you know, I can start to understand why non-kinky people might really question our sanity. You can definitely see that. I can see that.
When I read that, I loved it because it reminds me of something I heard a comedian say a long time ago where they said, you know, some of your fantasies will make really piss poor realities. And when we come in, I like the detachment that I get when you have these uber fans because there's so many of these lifelong fantasies that we're going to have about something incredible. We say even something that's not as dark and sinister like, oh, I'm going to have sex with women every day of my life. You know, they're just all going to be a rock star and I'm going to literally have sex five times a day.
There does come a point to where you, it's that's when you're hungry. Like there's a hunger that comes before a fantasy that you're hungry and then you don't realize that your brain will only be hungry until it's eaten. And then it's not hungry anymore. So it's kind of like you, because I know people that have had the dungeon lock me up fantasy and use had it, you know, she wants to be a fairy in a cage and live in the corner.
I mean, we have a lot of those situations where people, and it's just so funny to think some people really obsess about those fantasies. But in reality, your brain's going to shut off after a couple days of doing something. So that's what makes the fantasy fun. And that's what makes role play, which is what we do here so much.
So important because you can have the fantasy without going to jail the hospital, a morgue or ruining a relationship or losing everything you have by doing some of these darker things that people really want to do. You can act these out in a role play. And if you act them out in a role play, you get to have kind of the thrill of doing whatever that thing is, abduction, rape play, you know, whatever it's going to be. And you're able to experience that without having to actually try something that's actually going to endanger you.
Yeah. But once again, you got to ask yourself, where's the line drawn? How far will you go to try and make that fantasy come true? Because especially lately on Fat Life, there have just been so many people who have been people, men who have been getting arrested or there's just so many stories of people that are well known on Fat Life who are suddenly being accused of rape or being accused of kidnapping.
I mean, I don't know if you read a lot of Fat Life, but a lot of what's going on with it. Is that that they're just now getting caught or that it's just now happening? I have no clue whatsoever. But I know that there are enough of celebrities online that they're well known and they talk a good game.
From my understanding, they're getting caught or being brought forth that this has happened. Well, this is, I mean, we're now in this culture with the Weinstein and fucking Spacey and all these people are now being emboldened to come forward and say, hey, this happened to me. I mean, this is where this led for whatever reason. I didn't expect it to lead this, but I remember reading it thinking I've often thought about that line.
That line in my head, that line in other people's heads, I mean, you come to the club here, you see people doing all kinds of stuff and I call them my friends and I think it's great. But the bottom line is I don't know any one of them where that line is drawn for them. How far do you go into the consent and non consent? I think at that point, you would hope, I mean, once again, risk-aware consensual, but you would hope that we create enough of an environment for people to feel comfortable learning how to do these things safely and how to accommodate the emotional needs of all parties involved, especially the person who's going to be the victim in any of these kind of darker fantasies.
You would hope that. And obviously that's not the way it is because most people are not in a community. The answer adds online, they have this fantasy in their head that I want to be chained up and treated like dirt for the rest of my life. They don't think through the fact like this poster did that said, hey, you know what, I'm going to miss my fucking job and my things and other things in life.
And maybe there's, they don't take that time to investigate the reality that you don't know who you're going with. And that's unfortunate because I think that every time that we hear a story like that, we're hearing about it specifically because that person or that group of people did not understand the different, maybe did not have a community like we do, did not understand the difference between fantasy and reality. And also, but now we're talking about people who are supposedly in the community that are still ending up pushing these issues and being rapists and consent. Well, yeah, this is why we tell anybody who's knew that the red flags go up when somebody tells you, when somebody on the fringes of the community says, I don't attend munching, I don't attend public events or, you know, predators that come around the periphery of our community and try and win.
That's the friend, but now I'm, I'm, I know we're jumping all over the place here and, but we're now we're talking about it's a funny issue, but you know, now we're talking about the people like you said that are known in the community that are fed celebrities or people that are known. So how do, how do people, how do you gauge? Is there a way to still gauge her? And now we just being suckered by sociopaths or psychopaths.
Is there a way? And I say yes, there is a way to minimize even it like, say me, I've done this to people all the time. Don't even trust me. Count Boogie, the guy I'm perverted podcast.
I'm a fixture in your life. You listen to the show, you're a PP fucking zombie, you're a zombie apocalypse master, you listen to everything, you feel you know me, you don't fucking know me. You really don't. You should treat me with this.
I mean, maybe you have a little more familiarity with me, you've heard me enough, you've done some betting, that's fine. But always know you still don't know me. And you should still take that time to make sure that my actions match my words. Because if you don't spend time doing that, did Unger just die?
Unger, you okay? Need to throw that mic away like, yeah, I think he's cool. Unger, what happened? Oh, he looks perfectly fine now.
Okay. You just, I mean, you just like violently went over. Okay. Thank you for that.
Do you have water? Do you want to drink? Take care of yourself? Okay, you're good.
Unger. Unger. I didn't mean to interrupt. Have you ever gone?
What's the furthest you've ever gone into a fantasy? Like getting into the closest, oh, oh, it's got that look. Some of the blue placings are close. But that's really about it.
Yeah, and then the abduction taking someone. Because a lot of people do that. I want to be locked in front of them. Those things where I've chased people down prior to a scene as part of the beginning of the scene where I've actually sent Tom to go and I'll have a look at my eye and they'll just kind of freakin' go because that's how the scene starts.
So you let that predator side of you come out? I'll have to come out to about that point. But again, everything is negotiated and consented and all that is taken into account. So if you're going to do something, I mean, let's, I mean, we're talking about people doing abductions, locking people, putting them in trunks, putting chains around their neck and locking them.
I'm sure at some point people can send to some of these things once again because they don't see this working out and maybe they think that the person, maybe Count Boogie, is a cool guy because he's on this show and he says he wants to chain me up in my place and whatever. And obviously because he's a celebrity, whatever you want to call this, 20 people. Listen, you know, that he should be trustworthy. That's not true.
You should still do the same. You can. Do you have a safe call? We're going to do this thing.
Do you have other people involved in that type of scene where other people can check on you and make sure that you're okay? Is the top okay with that type of thing? Is the top okay with having other people involved to make sure that they are accountable to do what they say they're going to do? Because that's the edge flag of their neck.
Yeah, because I want to abduct you and lock you in my trunk and drive your way and rape play you or because some people want it to be really real. They want to be fucking punched in the face. They want to do all the extreme things. And that's great.
But is there something wrong with putting some checks and balances in place before you just jump in and do that? Some people are just stupid enough to say, I'm just going to take the risk and hope it works out for the best. And then it doesn't. So we're going to suggest against that.
We're going to suggest that if you're going to do these darker things then by all means, set some accountability and motion. I've said this on the show before. If any one of my play partners or lovers said, hey, can we go to the police station and run a criminal check on you? Why not?
What do I have to fucking hide? I'll tell you, these are the things that I've had trouble with in the past and you can make your own decisions. I don't have anything to hide. I think if you were playing with someone and you want to do something extreme and they aren't willing to be accountable in some way, then that's a red flag.
That's a big red flag. Yeah. You know, we really did kind of go in a weird direction. I hope that one puppy hears it.
She doesn't think that we're questioning whether. No, I think it's people like her and her, her, sir, who actually are in a great head space because they understand the difference. They discuss it. They skirt the edge.
I think it's people who don't discuss it and don't understand that. Look, if you have that desire or if you have that fantasy, you got to let it out of the box. You have to discuss it with people whom you trust. You have to not make it a big secret that you never look at again because that's I believe we're the danger lies because then you do something foolish because you've it's been in the secret has been in the dark for so long.
And even if you're in the community, you'll find yourself thinking, well, maybe I should, I don't know, give it a try with so and so that I met online. I think it's a big danger, in other words, not to discuss it, not to shed some light on it and see where it's coming from. And though in my opinion, that's the that's a good way to begin going down the positive path when it comes to your dark fantasies. I'm with you.
I'm with you. I know this was all over the place. I'm really grateful for the post and I am really grateful. I don't want to take away people's, you know, dark, dark fantasies.
Things that are dark can go bad. Yeah. Shit can go bad and not dark ones can go bad. And not everyone is going to be who they say they are.
So if you have, you know, yeah, okay. I don't know if people can't be on the computer, right? And then everyone's like, you'll stop, you'll turn around and you'll look at us. I'm just listening to the camera.
I never know if you want to wait in or something. So. Yes, you hit the blue light. I'm good.
Yes. Now I'd like to weigh in. Go ahead. Just pointing out that I have that to weigh in.
I'm aware I was going with that. I don't know. Yeah. Sorry.
Thanks. I have a question. Yeah. Does it ever scare you?
Like, do you ever think to yourself, wow, that even scared me. I think I went farther than I wanted to go there. I don't know. Scare is the right word.
I've been scared. Disturb, maybe. I have like one thing that I've actually tried to figure out how to do without dying. That is scary.
That will disturb me. But I don't know if it scares me that I have the thoughts because I'm, I've had weird thoughts like this all my life. So this is just me. It's a part of being an ogre.
You are an intermediate man. Do you imagine breaking people's bones because you've done it. Sorry the anniversary is coming up in a couple weeks. Oh for uh for singer for Sanger's rib Ah, that's right.
You broke a rib. I like when I play football. I granted she's a little bitty thing and you know you beat on her and Bad math. There was bad math.
She took a rib picked her up. It was good. Well, hey, speaking of hunger Can't get away from it under you know who sleepy koala is right. No, she's the one who who um Turns on the okay.
Is that what yeah? I'm assuming okay? Yes, she wrote to us and she says I we have permission to say that name We have before many times okay fine. Okay, if you're in the chat room.
It's a clear don't you just want to know I'm editing something? Yeah, so she says I can't say enough But you guys are awesome and an inspiration for me to take more control of my life and do what makes me happy I especially want to send hunger a big big big hug hunger. I think you're awesome You sound like such an intelligent interesting helpful nice smart funny guy I love that you have so many cool hobbies and I hope to be able to join the chat room at some point Wow She wants to she wants to meet your little longer Fucking fans don't break them Olga's break people I just like this I mean if you ever seen a grown man squirm in a chair more then tell Unger that people actually like him and appreciate him on perverted Podcast look at me He's already just like not get eye contact is already gone. He's pretending to read something on the fucking chat room now He's just completely turned his bag now.
He's pretending to type Unger is a valuable part of the show people really enjoy him and they enjoy his enthusiasm He's very likable even though he's a giant fucking dick and he breaks everything's a piece of shit Apparently now he's all happy. Look I know what ever says to take the fucker Well, I'm gonna go to fan and another fan I really like to yes another guy's the only one who's been talked about a lot, but that was fun to watch him square Sometimes love is less than nice. You may need some fucking advice right now What you eating there me? She's eating more pretzel things And and and's just feeding her just junk food she brought a back She refuses to got me with me.
I believe that there used to be a no food in the love lab rule There was but then started being attracted to roaches So now the hope is is that the food brings roaches so she can have more Fred So now she literally just eats and like spits it on the floor and then watches it you daddy catch it put a harness on it Little roach our new you do not a little kinky Fred when she tries to see me so she rides it she rides his little roach rider Road trainer Like a fucking worms like a worm rider a spice What what are we talking about what's what are you doing apparently? Bunny is a crochet something bunny is a crochet master and she is building because she's making a mask She's making a panda mask for me she has one for herself So when we do our little zoo videos because we we don't show their faces completely Out of respect because they're associated with me Not that they're trying to hide themselves completely, but it's just kind of like well I mean it's it can be found if you want to be found But it's just that little keeping that teeny little bit of separation So she's crocheting a panda panda mask that we can use in some of our videos. It's pretty cool really Annie What the fuck is that now another bit and and just brought literally half of a Japanese bakery to this this podcast There's like 80 things on the table. It's like going to go in there and they're just sitting there and they're crumbs little token Now they're just you know what I'm talking about if you've been there It's like everything like Jesus Christ okay, I'm gonna go on here Princess brat 87 wrote to us.
This is a pretty intense one She says I just came out to my family by accident And I'll explain that in a little bit and they do not agree with this lifestyle at all I have been raised Catholic my whole life But I do not view my lifestyle as evil or even wrong it's who I am I can't change who I am my husband is also into spanking and my family now knows that as well And he's very upset and embarrassed about this because I told him something that was private about us. What do I do? Hey, when I first read this I just my heart goes out to her because I did end up emailing her and asking her for more information Because I didn't understand the whole going coming out by accident And so she gave us a bunch more information She's in a pretty bad place right now because her whole family is religious and she was in a not a good headspace Very vulnerable at the moment and her father asked her and her mother Her mother called her and long story short they accused her of something that didn't make any sense And she was just so upset and like I said in a very vulnerable frame of mind that she just opened her mouth And she's like I this is who I am and and my husband's into two and we're just banking and now the entire family Won't speak to her right even her friends and and so she's feeling very isolated and and it's just it's not a good scene Obviously this is it's sad to us because we see this a lot this exact scenario and I call it the hurt blurt Because you get to a point to where there's a lot of people like I wasn't close to my family They're you know, that's fine But I see a lot of people are incredibly tied in with their families They may not fully disclose who they are with their families But they try to be close and this is your family they have all that, you know kind of preconceived cultural programming that your family is you know everything and these are the people that are your family and you Expect them to be there for you when you say this is who I am and you know, they're not gonna be there So now you have to kind of lie to these people and if you're close to the family You're around them a lot if you live with the family You're obviously around them every day And so now you have to start leaving this lie Oh, I'm going to the dungeon So I have to make up this and friends and whatever and here was a perfect example of this the the kind of the The the lie that had to be told now was thrown back on this person Which I've heard this a bunch of times so where now they're saying this doesn't add up And so now they're accusing them of something even worse And and you get that you're at that moment where you're so conflicted. You just blurred out.
I'm fucking kinky Okay, it's not what you think I'm kinky This is what I do and I that you cannot blame someone for that blurt You cannot blame that is somebody who has held something that doesn't want to lie to their family But you know, they will not understand they will not accept you. These are people that are living in their own fear They're not immediately concerned with your happiness more than they are concerned with how they look because they raised a child That is one of these horrible consenting Sex-positive people and it's it's really really sad. So I wanted to make sure that the poster at least from my point of view understood It's not don't feel bad that you blurted. It's like a cork It's like a cork in a bottle and some people need to realize though that no matter how much it feels frustrating Sometimes it can go like this and now it's bad and she's gonna be in this for a while ultimately You hope that it settles down and and she can show her family and you know, I you went through this Bunny in some ways has gone through this To where you show the people that hopefully actually love you and not just treat you like a thing which most people do and you show them I'm happy.
I'm healthy. I'm not fucked up on drugs. I'm not committing crimes. I'm paying my bills I'm being responsible adult, but look at this thing that actually I feel makes me happy and gives me an outlet that I connect to over time They will lighten up on their thing unless of course They're so about their image or their you know, how the church views them or how their friends view them or whatever that at that point That's on them.
That's on the people that are person That's on the family members that are judging you because if they're not asking you are you happy? They don't give a fuck about you. They say they give a fuck about you, but in that moment They don't care about you. They care about them So don't feel guilt and shame over people who have their own fears and insecurities about how they look to their friends and their church or whatever I go.
I'm sorry. I'm babbling with it. But I get so much. It's yeah I get as angry as you and I when I do feel the same way and I do want to say the same things You know fuck them.
It's their problem. There's nothing wrong with you And all of that is true all that is 100% true But the bottom line is that that this girl is is gonna be in this shit for a while Yeah, she's got her husband angry at her her friends angry at her her entire family not speaking to her and the best that she can hope for is that She finds within herself Her true identity and can stand on her own two feet and know that Life is like this sometimes and you're not good And it's tough when you're younger and when you it's your entire support system that is turning their back on you And that's what's happening here But the good news is is you do have support obviously I mean we're we don't know this person personally But you surely have people that care about you and understand what you're doing and that's what's so important about community Even if it's an online or an over the radio whatever community You still have to seek out the people that understand you your husband your husband's kinky He's just mad because there's a change going on and that's good and he did consent to being out And he yeah, and you know that sucks it sucks guess what shit happens You're in a relationship with somebody and the blurt happens So hopefully there'll be some forgiveness and and whatever that happens there and eventually you'll deal with the fact that it's a change Ultimately and maybe this is just me because I don't have any attachment like to my I don't need my family I scrub toilets. I pay my own bills. I'm not I don't I'm not being supported by anyone So ultimately if my family can't support something that I have shown I'm sober I pay my own bills what I do being kinky is what makes me happy the relationships I have make me happy ultimately if my family is so in their own fear I have to just let them be in their own fear And I'm gonna go on with my life and be around people that can allow me to be myself because I'm gonna die and I don't want to die A martyr because somebody else is fucking insecure about their own life.
That's a shitty way to live Yeah, I I have the same freedom I don't my family that I never got along with I wasn't that close with anyway There have been people in my life I've been close to that I've had to drop but it has not devastated me because it was not what I would call the very foundation of my upbringing Unlike her right and I this is why I felt really badly for when I read it because I just cannot even imagine that level of a people in your life Where everybody that loves you and that you love? Is just turning their back on you and there's no going back. It's not like she unless you unless you do a complete 180 and say You're right. I've seen the the air of my ways.
I'm now coming back to the fold You're not gonna get that same people do that and but people do I've heard we've had a lot of people that have tried to go back to being non-kingky Just to please their spouse or their their family or whatever and then you know five years later They come back or seven years later. We've had people we just had a couple of come back that have been away for 20 years trying to do a similar Kind of thing and it's it never really works if you're really a kinky person and this is really a part of you It's not gonna go away You know if you're just casually kinky then fine I don't need to have a spanking if that if that smooths over everything with my family But if you're somebody like me that this is a part of how you interact with people that I need this in my interpersonal relationships It's not gonna go away And then you're just gonna be repressed and closeted and living for somebody else's fear And if you got if you got to do that, you know If that's the way to keep your kids or if that's the way to keep your job or if that's the way to keep your inheritance or whatever The hell that you have at stake then that's you know I'm not gonna tell someone to not take care of themselves and survive I'm just gonna say man. I wish that we lived in a world where people didn't have to martyr themselves like that Yeah, I agree and the bottom line is that Princess Brat is now she's at a crossroads. She's at a crossroads that would nobody expects being at that age Right and but unfortunately it comes early to some people and it's come to her doorstep And she's at a place right now where she's gonna have to make some major life decisions that are gonna affect her Her family her husband her family and so effective for the rest of her life, but She is lucky in that she does have from what she told us a good strong supportive kink community or at least a few people there and She was living in an age now where even if we're not exactly where we want to be We're definitely a lot further even than we were ten years ago And she can get through this you can get through this and it's gonna be tough though I it's not it's not gonna go away You know the family's not gonna wake up in the morning and be like we were wrong God told us that we should love and accept you That's not gonna that's probably not gonna happen the last thing I will suggest and I think I touched on it before cuz this is what you did With with her her mom when she came out and we really worked on this and it was it was very successful She showed her mom was straight a fucking student.
I just graduated with honors. I'm not on drugs You know, it's just starting with that look at the evidence trying even though they're hung up in their head Show the evidence the evidence is that I this activity that I do is not making me the stereotypical degenerate of society Now then if you're fucked up on drugs and heroin and you're kinky and your family's rejecting you okay Get sober first get clean change your life and then try to come back out to him But no you can show them the evidence and the evidence is is that you're a well-rounded happy person and that you generally are are a good person And that this isn't corrupting you into being the evil horrible person that they want to envision you and that Her mom turned around in what like a couple days like like really like after that discussion She I mean she had to go through her process just like anybody else and there was you know It was an evolution but in general it really did work out She really did she at least her in that situation and I've heard other successful situations to where you present that evidence and they go Okay, I was being of course you're my family member. I do love you I just I'm scared It scared me because I think this and maybe it'll start conversation and we have heard stories where it's turned in maybe a little ugly at first and turned into some great conversations later and made people actually closer and have a better Acceptance of each other but also we've heard a lot of times where it drew a divide and it'll never be the same That's true and it can't happen. I don't mean to be so pessimistic It takes a really exceptional person not to adult parent to get through that I mean I when I was younger I know this has nothing to do with King But when I was younger it was I was in junior high and I had a friend who was getting bullied just horribly all the time And one time I stood up for her and then the bully came after me and we got into this massive You know fight hair pulling scratching the whole thing and of course I got suspended How would we at the time I was in eighth grade so that's a little too young master beat to Anyway, it just picture her in like you know 17 and a half You know not it doesn't matter Yeah, and you're scrapping with a chick yes on the floor rolling around it was it was Typical girl fight in junior high and I got suspended and my mom just flipped her fucking lid and was furious at me And it first for somebody like me that was the worst I could ever get was my mother's And then our neighbor who was having trouble with her kids and who were doing much worse things was so angry at my mom I said look she's getting good grades She was defending her friend who is getting bullied and no one else is defending her She never skips class.
She doesn't do drugs What the fuck are you complaining about and it took my mom very little time to really look within and say? Wow, she's right because I had so many relatives and friends who were they were runaways They were doing drugs and their parents whom we knew were having a horrible horrible time And my mom just did a complete turnaround and on the next day Of course I was suspended for a day and she took me out for a day of fun And we had a great time because she was able to have enough humility to say I was wrong I should or that I'm proud of me. She's really scared, you know It's suspended. Yeah, and she had in later on when I was my shoulder We talked and she said she had an image of this she had a preconceived notion that kids who fight It's the downward spiral and they're you know horrible people and dick for crack within a week Exactly and that's what she was afraid she was afraid that I was gonna go down that path And so that's why I said it takes an exceptional adult or parent to be able to look within and say this is the reason I'm afraid I'm yelling at my kid because I'm actually afraid right Ann Ann yeah To kind of build off that and like not an ideal situation But usually like when parents push back against something or they kind of like reject or they're kind of trying to get you to be to not do an activity It can like when they push you away so far They're trying to get you to change But unfortunately like they usually don't realize that they're just hurting you more or they're pushing you more towards that activity Or that like you're not gonna change I mean she's married and this is her married her married life So it's if you know if you try and talk to like kind of make that clear of like hey Like you're pushing yourself out of my life and unfortunately like that's not something only I can change so like if you Want to be still be part of my life and you can you know you can either kind of look over or try to you know Nor this other part of my life But if you still want to be part of my life You're gonna have to accept this because it's not changing It's not going away and if you're gonna make it an ultimatum then you're gonna lose sure absolutely.
Thank you very much Thank you very much, you know, that's called drawing a line in the sand and saying I Do draw the line it really is because you're afraid that you've never said I mean I had to do this with religion myself because you don't believe that there is a life for you outside of what you know And these types of situations are being taken out of what you know as your life and hurt for some people their family is part of a major part of their life Oh, yeah And so they feel if they lose that or that's in jeopardy that somehow life's not gonna go on and that's just not the case Humans are very tenacious. We do survive. There is life after whatever these disasters are unless your health is damaged You get thrown in prison or you get killed there's a chance that if you if you take care of yourself that you have a chance That you can actually find new friends find new people like for me. I have family as much as I hate Kathy's guts She's my family and we have a type of relationship that I trust Kathy and and Unger and and everyone that that's here there This is my family and they have replaced the things that I didn't get from my family because I still needed those things But it was completely okay to go outside and find that from other people that are actually like me that actually Respect me for being myself And if my family doesn't give that to me and I have members of my family that they weren't cool with who I was my fucking You know, there's people in my family that absolutely reject and hate me never did anything to them They hate me because of who I am and you know what I can I can replace that love We have an option in this lifestyle because we get it and we're in this fight kind of together so I Know we dragged on a lot about this, but this is this is a big deal This is a real if they're listening to this and you've gone even through a small amount of it I'm not I'm not saying that people value what you and I say at all But you would you appreciate hearing it talked about you know that it's you're not alone You're not the only person who has gone through this or is going through this This is one of the hardest things that you will go through whether it's cake or something else if you are on the in any kind of fringe Group here's somebody who smokes pot if you're somebody I mean I could go on our use your imagination if you're not walking down that straight and narrow path that everybody Assumes that we're all supposed to be walking down You're going to encounter this in life This isn't just about kink and you have decisions to make you have hard decisions to make about how alone because I mean I know that I'm a very cynical person and I can have a very negative point of view Daisy, but I'm a fresh Daisy I'm Daisy fresh like a douche like a douche exactly country flowers.
I'm freaking douche. That's me This when you stand out for yourself when you do go down the path that you want to go down It can be a very lonely path It can because you're gonna have to make decisions that are going to that decision will exclude some people if you're lucky You won't exclude a lot if you're unlucky You're gonna end up excluding a great deal of people and it might be people that you've always relied on so it Those choices they have some very serious consequences in your life So anytime that you're gonna do something that is different from everybody else Get ready for a rocky ride Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's all we got.
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