#13, Dushan Zaric, Co-founder of Employees Only, author & consultant

This is a MAMMOTH episode with the legendary co-founder of the Employees Only bar empire, co-founder of The 86 Co (famous for Ford's Gin and recently acquired by Brown Forman), author of "Speakeasy" and certified good time, Dushan Zaric, a friend of mine for going on twenty years now. It's so hilariously amateurishly edited (we did two recording sessions) that after about an hour it almost sounds like we've finished, but we didn't; we went on to do another 2.5 hours or so after that! It's everything you ever wanted to hear: teaching young folk nowadays, opening a bar without sewage because you're broke, AI, Dr. Hostetter's bitters, Khoosh bitters, a toast to Trans Day of Visibility (we recorded it on that day, y'see), Dushan officiating at my wedding, a couple of brand-new genever cocktails, and much, much, much more. Dushan's great new YouTube show is 4am Chicken Soup, and his IG handle is @4amchickensoup. EO is @employeesonlyny and Macao Trading Company (where we recorded the second half) is @macaonyc Khoosh bitters is @khooshbitter on IG, and Dr. Hostetter's is @drhostetters, both from the fine chaps at @phoenyxspirits(Get in touch with Duff!Podcast business enquiries:  [email protected] (PR friends: we’re only interested in having your client on if they can talk for a couple of hours about OTHER things besides their prepared speaking points or their new thing, whatever that is. They need to be able to hang. Oh, plus we don't edit, we won’t supply prepared or sample questions, nor listener or “reach” stats, either, and no, you can't sit in on the interview (or lurk on the Zoom.)  And our AI automatically deletes pitch emails that are clearly written using AI. Retain Philip’s consulting firm, Liquid Solutions, specialised in on-trade engagement & education, liquor brand creation and repositioning: [email protected] on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/philipsduff/ Philip on Facebook: Philip Duff Philip on X/Twitter: Philip Duff (@philipduff) / Twitter Philip on LinkedIn: linkedin.com Old Duff Genever on Instagram: Old Duff Genever (@oldduffgenever) • Instagram photos and videos Old Duff Genever on Faceboo...