#13 Rafe Kelley: Movement, Play & Meaning

In this episode Andrew speaks with Rafe Kelley, the founder of Evolve Move Play. Rafe shares his journey from parkour and martial arts into developing a movement practice deeply rooted in evolutionary biology, nature, and play. They discuss the tension between structured fitness models and natural movement, the role of meaning in physical practice, and how modern fitness and social structures often strip people of their innate playfulness and movement capabilities. The conversation also touches on the evolution of fitness culture, the importance of community, and the challenges of maintaining movement longevity as we age.Evolve Move Play WebsiteRafe Kelley on YouTubeFrank Forencich – Exuberant AnimalJohn Vervaeke – Meaning Crisis & MovementParkour & Movement Culture ResourcesThanks for Listening, let us know what you thought and if you liked it, please like and subscribe!Music by Me For Queen