131 Lucee 6 with Gert Franz, Charlie Arehart, Ben Nadel, Mark Drew, Zac Spitzer

Gert Franz, Charlie Arehart, Ben Nadel, Mark Drew, and Zac Spitzer talk about “Lucee 6” in this episode of ColdFusion Alive Podcast with host Michaela Light. “Welcome to the podcast. We’re coming here live from CF camp in Munich, Germany. And we are going to be talking about Lucee 6, the new release of Lucee CFML. And we’ve got some amazing experts here. Mark Drew who's done a lot of Lucee coding at distro kid. Then we’ve got Charlie Erehart, the ColdFusion troubleshooting expert giving an independent view on Lucee. Then we’ve got Ben Nadal all the way from New York City. And he's the top blogger among ColdFusion people according to our annual survey, and then we got good friends from Lucee Association, Switzerland, coming up at the end, but not least. And on the other screen, if you're watching on video, we have some of the attendees from Sierra camp when we open the set. Yay, go attendee. And we'll be opening up to audience questions later in the show. So why don't we just start by just going through each of the four panelists, and I'm just want to ask you, what are you most excited about in Lucee 6?” Show notes What are you most excited about the Lucee 6 release? It is released! (after 2019 announcement at CFCamp 2019) and years of covid it is finally released :-)  Java integration, easier paths, tag islands Listeners: query, email, HTTP progress etc Do want we want to do and add to Lucee independent to ACF CFconfig, container friendly, cloud friendly now Fast startup (<1 second), warm up containers Startup with only One Context halves the startup time Removed old cruft for flash etc (see shrink label in Lucee jira) Webinfo folder outside the webroot - more secure - smaller and faster Pete Freitag Fuseless lamda helped on this Warmenable = 1 to pre-load these folders Dot CFS files - pure cf script How is CFCamp? Lucee 6 New features Thread debugging What does “thread debugging” mean? Switch to Json configuration - Json config (moved from XML) Reload config at runtime Future Json 5 support eg comments https://luceeserver.atlassian.net/browse/LDEV-4583  Features of Ortus CFconfig built into the Lucee CFML language ACF can export config to Json too as of ACF 2021 12 factor apps https://12factor.net/  some config in environment variables Eg for production, qa containers CFtimeout tag Control how long a section of code runs before forced time out Raffle Q: How long have each panelist being involved in web devel Mark 1992  Charlie 1995 mainframe web dev then CF 1.5 Ben 1999 summer intern CF Gert 2000 with CF Michaela 1994 Gopher, HTML, PERL 1997 CF Raffle Q: What is the oldest domain you registered? Mark markdrew.com - but no lost it and wants it back Sold miny.com for much money Charlie systemanage.com Ben girls and many other domains Gert gertfranz.com Michaela teratech.com 1994 Audience 1995 free domain Spaces and whitespace in code Ben use lots Mark loves spaces Tabs vs spaces CFlint on compile to reduce java byte code size Smaller footprint on disk, less memory, faster startup Removed unused old Java libraries from default  Warm up  - expand library images Performance improvements DX - Developer experience  Better error messages Community driven project for improving DX For reporting and fixing issues How to contribute to Lucee contributing to the code and docs Testing the new release Support contracts to contribute money Zac works for 80% for Pixl8, 20% for Rasia purely on Lucee  UX on download page to ask for help Patreon  Share about how good Lucee is on your blog, social media Comment on public forums so the question and answer are google Dev bottom up, CTO top down (more expensive) Raffle Q: What is older: CF, PHP, JS PHP is 4 days older than CF and older than JS by several months ASP is similar age CGI and PERL are several years older Single context mode What does “single context” mean? Vs current multi-context in Lucee (and one context in ACF) Faster server startup Web sites each have one Fixing bad CFML defaults Eg CFLocation AddToken = False is now default Can set in application.cfc for any parameter eg CFMAIL, Datasource Local mode CFtimer tag - to time sections of code, returns the time taken Favorite Lucee features Cfscript islands Pricing Speed To what level should Lucee diverge from ACF (if at all)? Backwards compatibility Both Lucee and ACF adding new features and learning from each other Zac and Mart Takarta coordinate improvements Community evangelists  Audience comment - backwards compatibility is important  Enterprise ACF vs open source Lucee What was the first open source CFML engine Early version of BlueDragon CFML? No Smiths project from Switzerland Mentioned in this episode Lucee site 116 Lucee 6 Release Features, Behind-the-Scenes, With Zac Spitzer 12 factor apps https://12factor.net/   Lucee 6 demos for CFCamp  https://github.com/lucee/CFCamp2023 Lucee support contracts Listen to the Audio Bios Gert Franz Gert was born in 1967 and lives in Switzerland since 1997. He is one of the key people behind Lucee. Back in the late eighties, he studied astrophysics in Munich but switched to later IT as a profession and programmed for several companies in the past as a database administrator and system analyst. Gert spoke a lot at all major conferences in the past and will for sure in the future. He is now a fellow at DistroKid. Links Email: [email protected] Website: http://rasia.ch/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/gert_rasia   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gert-franz-4056807/    Charlie Arehart A veteran server troubleshooter who’s worked in enterprise IT for more than three decades, Charlie Arehart (@carehart) is a longtime community contributor who as an independent consultant provides short-term, remote, on-demand troubleshooting/tuning assistance for organizations of all sizes and experience levels (carehart.org/consulting). Links Twitter: https://twitter.com/carehart Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/carehart LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carehart Web: http://carehart.org/   Ben Nadel Ben Nadel is the technical co-founder of InVision App, Inc - a digital product design platform used to make the world's best customer experiences. As the original CTO, Ben now spends his days as a Principal Engineer, leading maintenance and development efforts on InVision's legacy platform. This includes systems monitoring, database optimization, instrumentation, back-end work, front-end work, product ideation, and research-and-development. He envisions himself as a champion of the User Experience; and often advocates for the User even in the face of internal opposition. Outside of work-hours, Ben wakes up at 5 am, seven days a week, so that he can attempt to stay on top of the rapidly changing world of web development. He uses these early-morning hours to read, conduct experiments, and write articles for his blog, BenNadel.com, which he has been running since 2006. Links LinkedIn: Ben Nadel | LinkedIn Blog: Ben Nadel blog   Mark Drew Mark Drew has been programming CFML since 1996, and even though he has had forays into Perl, ASP and PHP, he is still loving every line of code he has crafted with CFML.  He has been a strong advocate for open source, having worked on CFEclipse, Railo and now Lucee, as well as a number of other projects. He tries to create a pull request a day, to keep the bugs at bay. By day he helps other developers as the lead devops engineer at DistroKid, making sure that the carefully crafted artesanal code goes from laptop to server in the shortest time whilst keeping all its flavour. By night he develops games with CMD:Studio.  He has been known to do a podcast too! called the Localhost Podcast in which we talk all about the web. He also talks about the process of making games on the Level Design Podcast Links Twitter: https://twitter.com/markdrew LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mdrew CFML Slack Email: [email protected] https://anchor.fm/leveldesign https://localhost.fm/   Zac Spitzer Senior Software Engineer @ Rasia 80% Technical Lead  @ Pixl8 20% Community Manager @ Lucee Association Switzerland Originally from Melbourne, Australia Lives in Berlin, Germany CFML Developer since 1996, Allaire CF 2.0 Links https://twitter.com/zackster https://dev.lucee.org/u/zackster/ https://github.com/zspitzer Email [email protected]   Interview transcript Michaela Light  0:01 welcome to the podcast. We’re coming here live from CF camp in Munich, Germany. And we have going to be talking about Lucee 6 the new release of Lucee CFML. And we’ve got some amazing experts here. But Mark true. who’s done a lot of Lucee coding at distro kid. Then we’ve got Charlie Earhart, the ColdFusion troubleshooter shooting expert or giving an independent view on Lucee. Then we’ve got Ben Nadal all the way from New York City. And he’s the top blogger among ColdFusion people according to our annual survey, and then we got good friends from Lucee Association, Switzerland, coming up at the end, but not least. And on the other screen, if you’re watching on video, we have some of the attendees from Sierra camp when we open the set. Yay, go attendee. And we’ll be opening up to audience questions later in the show. So why don’t we just start by just going through each of the four panelists and I'm just want to ask you, what are you most excited about in Lucee 6? Gert Franz  1:09 That it’s here. Well,...