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Dec 3, 2020 1 hr 8 min

131 | See you next Tuesday!

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Wowzer! Takes a lot for us to switch the mic on in the early hours. If you’re an AEW fan and haven’t watched this week’s Dynamite then go and do it before you listen to this show as there are spoilers aplenty! We discuss: - Highlights from WWE RAW (briefly)- AEW Dynamite card- THAT AEW debut- All the crossovers! Remember to join the conversation on Twitter - @RTMWrestling or email RTMDammit (at) gmail dot com. Big thanks to @HeelTurn21 (follow him on Twitter) for hooking us up with our new theme toon!

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You are now listening to the UK and the world's favourite wrestling podcast. RT and wrestling with your host Andy and Emma. Right, Ron. Ron!

It is 3.13. 3.13? We're both battling colds, that's right. Still pulling.

Scabby nose, scabby ear. It's... Wonderful. But...

No, no, no, I was done. But would you go to sleep right now? I've left my bloody vape, over there. No, I've got a car.

Your own vape, yeah. Look forward to double trouble with the old vape now. We've got one each. No!

To be fair, I think I'm using it less than when I was sharing it. I don't know if it was like a weird, give me the vape now. Maybe. Like seeing me other blasts made you other blasts.

Yeah, yeah. So, but yeah, there might be double. There's gonna be double the vape noise, so it's also about that. Yeah.

As you heard, we've got like a little intro bit now. So thank you very much for Brian, for providing that. That's awesome. We may sink with it, but he wanted some of our sound bites and stuff like that.

And we did, to be fair, we did record them on the same literally an hour after we recorded them and we were in the middle of the podcast. He sent through the thingy. So we do have like little audio clips, but we can add those in. Yeah, but I quite like it.

I like it. I think you go down a rabbit hole when you start trying to pick out your highlights of some of the stuff you said. You listen to like hours before you get to a highlight. Oh yeah, I mean, you know, there is no highlights.

I still said about wearing clothes in the conventional sense. At the time, I didn't realize I was stupid that sounded. But yeah, you know, there's no sleep till uh, till dynamite next week. Or maybe impact on Tuesday.

Well, that's getting so shall we? So hello everyone. Welcome once again to our team, and this is gonna be very, very AEW focused, even though, general. Sorry, sorry about the pumpy sound.

It's actually really filling up the paper. I did watch a Raw Top 10. Oh, how was that? Do you know what?

I actually thought that was quite that looked like a half decent show. Oh, really? I thought you were gonna make a joke then. No, no, it actually looked a shit.

No, no, no, no. No, really? Okay. Yeah, there was a few half decent things going on.

Like the teasing, I don't know if the teasing or if it is, you know, because I've just watched a five minutes off the video. The fiend against Orton. Orton had Alexa in his arms and he passed her back over. He did see that.

Yeah, so that's what it's. Lana and Asuka tag team, kind of pinning the tag team champs. That looks quite fun. I mean, the triple fret, Sudden Death March, which a triple fret is always sudden death.

You know, fucking the Michael Bay of wrestling again. It's very nature. Again. That look from the highlights, because I actually watched, I went and watched the four minute highlight video of the put together.

That look like a really cool match with AJ Styles, winning it, which means he's going against McIntyre. There's something else as well. Oh, Jeff Hardy against Elias in some crazy. He did hit his head on the steps.

He did hit his head on the steps. Yeah. He looked horrific. Yeah, I thought I thought I thought he was watching.

I watched once to see that. Did you know how it happened? Yes, I saw the start and saw the aftermath of it. I didn't see the video of it and I was like, Oh, Jesus, I hate to know the noise that made.

Yeah. I was cracking up some steel stuff. It didn't sound right. Fucking Jeff.

What? The cops it don't know. He's the wrong fault for putting the table there, because he's moving around a little bit. But anyway, anyway.

Cheers. Well, that aside. I actually watched that thinking. Oh, he's not really talked about WWE properly for a bit.

Maybe we'll get into that. But we've just come off the back of the latest Dynamite. It's literally just finished. The winter is coming.

I mean, we never do this. We never won. Stay up this late, especially when we're both looking very well. And two, we never put the mics on straight after something, because usually we're so knackered and we're so fed up and it's dragged on every show, because you're tired at this point.

No matter how good it is sometimes. But it just shows that a very, very, very, very good show. I mean, the jungle, no boost. I mean, what the fuck?

I can't. It was one of the greatest wrestling shows I've seen in a long time. And was not a pay-per-view? No.

No pay-per-view to like what fucking February or something for AWW? That was just a big dynamite show. I mean, that's to me. That's the way you do it.

If you're going to do pay-per-view that infrequently, you need to bulk up the dynamites. You know, they've been bulking up dynamites in the past with things like Five of the Fallen and what was it? The Fight of Fest and all that kind of stuff. And then NXT, you know, just started doing Halloween, have a guest shit as well to try and pink a bit.

Well, yeah, I mean, from start to finish, the show was fantastic. I really enjoyed it. I mean, at two hours show, it goes by like a flash. You know, the battle royale match was really fun.

And I'm looking forward to Orange against MGF. What else was there before the two main? Jericho. Oh, Jericho and his area for the first time ever.

That was good. And then you go off a bit of a, what is it that comes into Jesus meeting? Automate them next week. However, that's not why we turn the mic on, really, is it?

Oh, absolutely not. Take it away. Oh my God, right. So obviously Sting made his AWW debut.

And there's a lot of things to unpack and to say. However, the one thing that I can't not just lead with, because I'll just keep going to it, that is legitimately the first time I've ever been properly surprised in wrestling while watching it. Probably since I was watching it as a teenager when there was no internet and there was no ragsheets. And even though you were watching it the day after on a videotape from the teller, you didn't have a fucking clue because you couldn't check what had happened.

It wasn't on the news or anything. No one gave a fuck. So like, since starting to watch it again, 2012, I've never been surprised because every, every single debut, whatever has been ruined, like a celebrity appearance, it's announced weeks before, or it's leaked. And this is the first time I've ever been legitimately surprised.

And I always, we've always banged on on this podcast about how we'd love to have more surprises, with our some surprises, and how great that must be to be surprised. And yet never experienced it. Just kind of guessing. Wouldn't it be great if there was something big happening?

It didn't know, he didn't know the rock was coming out. He didn't have a clue he was coming out. There was none of this tease on WWE at the moment about the rocks coming out. Rocks are obviously going to be a WrestleMania against Reigns, of course he has.

It's been coming for 12 months by the time he gets it. You know, a proper surprise. And I had no idea about Sting at all. So even when he's been yet, the this vignette started playing, the winter is coming with a crow, should have been a bit of a giveaway really.

Did he even click on? See, you saying crow, I don't even remember a crow. Yeah, there was a crow. And I remember seeing it start, but it looked kind of like a little bit like Japan.

And obviously, Kenter had posted it. Well, that makes me think he's in Kahoos of them to make, to throw people off the scent of red herring belt. You aren't the in Kahoos of them. Well, get on to that.

Absolutely. But then, so this thing, yes, Ben, I was like, Kenter, okay, so it's definitely Kenter because that looks like Japan. That's why I thought it was on. But then I was like, this is a very weird, I would have thought if he was going to come out, it's the domain event.

Yeah. But there's no way why, why see out with these guys? Are you trying to set up something with like Dobby Allen, like really? And then when it said Sting, that is the biggest pop you and I have had.

Yeah. Pro- just ever. Yeah. In terms of surprise.

In terms of surprise, absolutely. The only time I can think of a genuine surprise. I don't even know if it was genuine or not. Oh no, Joe, it would have been genuine if I was watching it live, but it was Royal Rumble when Edge came out.

Oh, okay. And I went to, because obviously, you know, we've got work the next day, you know, I kind of stuff and went to bed and woke up and had to be ruined for me by, like notifications and things like that. And it would have happened this time, had we gone to bed and not watched it. It would have been on my phone, a bleach report thing, and I would have been like, what the fuck?

Andy, don't look at your phone and get it. You need to subscribe. Well, usually one of us knows if there's a surprise, any sort of surprise, nothing to this magnitude. If there's any sort of surprise, we're watching the day after an usual day, one of us knows and we go right just to watch it.

Let's see what you think about this. Yeah. It was like with the dinner, da, da, da, da thing. You can see that.

I saw that, yeah. Is that a ride? I'd already seen it. No, they're not these are not the same level as things.

Well, still, I mean, but it was so great to share that moment with you. Yeah, definitely. Like it was a pure like visceral reaction. You were shouting, look at his t-shirt, look at his t-shirt.

You know, because obviously, big merch, so that's getting bought. It was just the fact that it said the whole thing, AEW, a proper t-shirt is a suggestion that at the time when he first walked out, he's like, he's here, rather than he's just paying an appearance this week. Yeah, yeah. Seeing an AEW logo on his t-shirt was like, oh, fuck, he's proper signed of him.

This is massive. Yeah. All right, it was just anyway, I've waffled. Tell me your thoughts, please.

Well, I mean, there's not really too much to add to that other than just fuck. You know, I mean, it was unbelievable to me, because actually, I retweeted something that I think, um, cow bought. Let me just have a quick log for him. So Kyle, so he doesn't, if you don't know, I'm sure you do know.

By now, but he does a podcast whose names are udemy, so sorry, but it's called At All Elite Pod. I fucking tweeted the wrong one, which I said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, that's what happens when you stay up on watch until after clock. So he actually, I don't know if it's, because you remember when saying like, you got on a media call. Oh, yes.

I don't know if this is why he got this or he was able to post it, but it was pretty much like a press release. Yeah. Straight, I mean, that's some cool shit. Straight away.

I think just says like it, I'd on Sting makes his debut multi-year deal. So because like you said at the time, watching it is like, you know, this is, this is what I like your guys and I know not like from like the previous WCW shit, because you've never seen it. You know, that running out in WWE was so disappointing for me as a massive Sting fan. And I really didn't like WCW, but I loved Sting.

Everybody fucking loved Sting. You know, even beach ball, you know, kicking around Sting with his blonde hair, going all the way to the crow. What's the Brandon Lee thing? What's the crow?

Oh, yeah, the crow. Yeah, the crow. You know, that homage was awesome coming down from the rafters. You know, TNA at the time when I was watching TNA, he was a big part of TNA as well, doing great promos and having reasonable matches.

But to see him come out and it to be like such a massive shock. Like I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I was like, fucking hell. Like, because there was a thing like a couple of months ago where WWE had pulled all his merchandise.

And there was a ratchet thing of like, you know, do we know you pull all his merchandise? But as far as like, I was aware, he'd retire because Cefraol injured him. So that book up on him, injured him to the point of where he had to retire. That's what I thought.

And you don't look into it any further than that. You know, you're not like every wrestler like, are they? Are they still going into the- Not with Sting, not with Sting. Because like you said, sorry to interrupt you.

But like you said, it was a disappointing run and he had ended it with an injury. And because of like the time of his life he's in, and he was so kind of gracious whenever he was interviewed, he felt like he was sort of having like a goodbye tour in WWE, really. Like it was a goodbye moment. Because he was so kind of like at peace with who he was and he was kind of really laid back.

And he thought, okay, he's ending his career at WWE and why not get a WrestleMania moment. And then unfortunately gets injured. So it's like, right, that's Sting done then. It was a sad ending because he didn't really get the big fanfare or any sort of goodbye.

Now we know why. You never intended on retiring, we just assumed that I don't think he announced retirement, did he? I didn't see anything like- Well, it's assumed it. Yeah, well that was kind of the line that I think I don't know if WWE said or anything like that.

Tiffany by the way is Kyle's co-host. Tiffany. That's a critical note. So I just couldn't believe it.

And when I saw him walking out, I don't think I think I looked at the screen for about a second. And then I was screaming at you, I was tweeting away. It was insane. And then to see like, because most of our timeline, other than disgusting shit, people retweet for some reason, is relatively equal to AW and NXT.

Because this is the only time when they're on at the same time. Usually you see a good bit of breakdown of both. Now this time it was just pure AW and then the odd WWE related tweet that was just taking a shot. Yeah, sorry.

I saw it's like, do we really sign an old talent? The reason why I saw it was someone who quoted it saying, WWE signed people are keeping prisoner in a performance end of two years. I do have a call with him. So whatever.

That's a good one. That's a good one. I don't know who that was. He tweeted that but he made it like that.

And I'm not using this whole fantastic AW show as a reason to slag off WWE. But what? I was thinking, I was kind of looking at it as if to say, I am. Well, no, no, no, no, no.

To me, it's a very, very, very personal thing in that I have grown out of WWE. I think you have to. I think it's not evolved with us as wrestling fans. I don't think it's evolved with a lot of people's wrestling fans.

I think it ends up winning a lot of new fans and a lot of, without sounding rude, a lot of obsessive fans who draw pictures of wrestlers and stand them for one of a better phrase. What? Stan, you know, when you're a big fan, you stand them. Oh, I don't know.

Yeah, I think that's where the phrase came from. But it's like, you've got a lot of like, stands of certain wrestlers and they're obsessed with them and they're like, oh, my queen and all the shit my king and all that crap. So they get a lot of them fans. But for me, it was just a fervor distancing of where I'm at with them.

They're just not for me anymore. But they satisfy a lot of people and they're there for, you know, they're there for a lot of like tweens and a lot of, you know, these weird megafans who idolise them in very odd ways, in my opinion, unhealthy ways. Yeah, some of the things that I've seen is on health. It's, yeah, but what each of their own, it's like, it's like, they're like a bunch of pop stars to a lot of people.

Yeah. And that's how they get treated. And that's very enough. That's how they get marketed.

But like, tonight, I don't know what it was. You know when like, it's really as described, it's really hard to describe our free in the morning. But I feel like, you know when you, you know when like, you're a fan of something, but then something happens that just cements it and it locks into place completely. Like there was a missing piece.

I'm not saying like, sting is the piece of my life that's been missing. So, but tonight's show was the missing, was kind of like, whenever it's been just aligned completely for me. And it's like, right, okay, I'm done now. This is, this is, I am a big fan.

And I was anyway, but it's like, no, I'm properly a fan. Yeah. And I didn't realize I was still teetering a bit. Yeah.

Oh, not so much teetering, but a bit apathetic about it. Like, take it, I'll leave it. I'll watch AEW. It's great.

I enjoy it. But now I'm like, shit, shit. I'm becoming a fucking stan. Yeah, we're gonna start drawing pictures and singing.

I'm gonna start looking, drawing a picture of Sting and sending it in. And it's shit. And he looks like a, he looks like a Picasso. We read twins anyway.

Yeah. So fucking absolute garbage. No, but it was, it was, it was so, so, so good. It was something I didn't know I was missing.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, like five minutes in, because obviously we watch on the fight at FITE, which is for UK. And I think it's worldwide apart from America, because obviously they've got the TNC deal. So we watch on the fight up.

It's great. There's no sort of hardware breaks. It just carries on. Sometimes it's good.

Sometimes it's not where like, Moxie's walking around the ring for like 10 minutes while they have to go in on. But as soon as I put it on, you, when the, when the battle royal was going on. And it wasn't, you know, it was like, a couple of weeks ago, I think I was taking the piss out of WWE for, um, doing a battle royal where there was no reason what's going on. And it was just to put the Miz over as a heel, which could have been done in five minutes instead of 20.

And I was like, what the fuck is this for? And you know, and then they do the spatter royal for the diamond ring. Because that's how I thought, oh yeah, the diamond ring that I'm Jeff won last year, that's on the line. But then it came out halfway through the match.

It was like, oh, actually the last two were going to go into a match next week. And I was like, oh Christ, can someone not just win it now? I was a little bit like that. But then when it finished, I was like, yes, let's see that MGF orange capacity match next week.

But like five minutes into that, nothing was really happening. You just said, God, I love this show. Yeah, I really do. And I just do.

I just think it's, I just feel comfortable watching it. It's, I think like I say, I think it's the evolution of being a fan and, you know, discovering what it is that you really like about it. And I think that the people who are at the helm of it are probably on the same wavelength or there or there about as you and I are in wrestling. You know, Tony Carnes, obviously, a younger dude, you know, he's not 70.

So it's like he's grown up probably, he's probably a similar age to me. Maybe I don't know. But like he's, he's grown up with it and he's grown up with it at the same sort of time. He's got, he knows what works, he knows what doesn't.

And he's, you know, dynasty fucking billionaires. So it's, it's great. He's like the best person to hold it. Probably won't be when he's 70.

It'll probably be a mess. But like calling for Tony Carnes and it's cold, you need to take over. Exactly. Well, you know, but it's like, he's, he's just, it's just hit at like a great time, I think.

It's just, it's just great. And just don't that battle royal, battle royal, battle royal. Just been, I don't know. And every now and now and so.

But like there's something always so fantastic when you forget someone's not actually been eliminated. Yeah. It's the best. It's what the whole thing hinges on.

The fact that someone's been outside of the ring for so long, that's the whole point of those matches. Well, we just went out, went out and got him. Cause like I thought he was gonna come slide in and like nonchalantly. Do you care, though, does it?

No, I think I'll care. I mean, it would have stayed out there and then come out next week. Oh, yeah. I've not been eliminated.

That's the other, try open it. Yeah. Yeah. It is.

Yeah. So, so, like, something like the whole show was great. Yeah. The, the battle royal, the women's match with brickbaker and the Russian, like, um, remembering, unfortunately.

And then thunderrows are coming out and attacking her. That was great. That was really good. The side bit with Sheida with a whole of bad and stuff, which is obviously a band's grown last next week, but Sheida showed more, you know, emotional range than we've ever seen on AWW.

Yeah. Should I back? So that's going in the right direction. Jericho and, um, and Kazarian was, was, was great.

And then the whole fucking, did they throw the towel into the knot? That was a great angle of it. I didn't even say it mentioned about the battle royal with, um, uh, Sammy Gavira and Jungle Boy on the, like, walking a sire up on the edge of the edge and doing back clips and she's like, Jesus, that was great. And then you get this thing fucking thing.

And for a split second, I forgot about the main event. Oh, well. I was like, is that it? Is it finished?

Cause WWE would have finished the show with that regardless of if the added title match on. Of course they would. They would have finished the show. Yeah.

And, um, you'd be going, why is this match on last? So what's happening? Wait, there you go. And then you prrre, then you're primed for a fucking spoil.

It was literally, I did have a moment where, um, when Sting went over to Darby Allen and they were looking at each other, I was thinking, Papa? Yeah. I've seen a few tweets. Yeah.

Things Darby Allen's that. Look at it. He just seemed that he just gave me that sort of vibe. Oh, God, it was so good.

But it was the, I turned to you and was like, it's crazy how I'm now thinking about Kenny Omega and Ambrose and Rose Moxley. Christ. I'm now thinking, come on guys, you gotta pull it out of the bag to beat that. That's what you said.

Like, you told me anyway. How were they beating that? I know when it's like so ridiculous to say about those two that match that everyone's been waiting for for so many weeks. And they did.

Yeah. They did pull it out. It was as good as you would ever expect it to be. Indeed.

Before we go on to that though. As far as Sting being there. Oh, you're gonna act on. Don't say what's the plan?

I don't know. Because this is the thing is like, you know, can it even wrestle? I don't know. I mean, he's gonna talk next week, which is crazy in itself.

But I've seen a few people saying like, oh, Sting's gonna pull like loads of viewers and all this kind of stuff. I don't think he will because we've seen a didn't pull loads of viewers. Right. But he did go to WWE for a bit and then there's now turned up in a different wrestling company.

So maybe it does pull a few. I mean, I'm getting the impression he's gone and wrestle. Yeah. I don't think he's just gonna be able to catch it.

Yeah. I'm all to you. Maybe you will. I didn't know what he does really.

I mean, he's got a lot of factions. I know Christ, unless he takes over one. But he's, yeah, I don't know. I don't even want to think about it right now.

Because we've said for so many weeks about so many, you know, like the male singles, especially. There's too many of them and there's not enough time. Yeah. So I can't even think that they'll just not miss you.

I just can't think about him being misused or anything. No. I don't think he will be. I think he'll be used very sparingly.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, if he's been signed to a multi-year deal, you know, it's not a one and done. Yeah. You know, it's him going back to TNT, which I think WCW used to be on.

So it's, you know, they said like, which been 18 years since things been on TNT. It's amazing. It's such an incredible signing for him. Yeah.

I mean, if you think about it, you know, from a business sense, from merchandise alone, Sting is a big deal to have on your books. And he just brings some, he just brings such a legitimacy to it that weirdly, I don't think I've felt before from anybody else quite the same extent as him. No. Like there's just something about, I put him up there with like the big times, you know what I mean?

Like the Mount Rushmore, the type of things. Like he's just, but obviously not as, not as much of a twat. Yeah, totally. I mean, all those WWE things.

A twat, like, you know, every one of the different Kogamorks. And they were like, oh, he's signed to a multi-adial, Hukkogans signed to a multi-adial. I'd be like, I don't, this is just a cash grab. And he's not going to do much.

And he's, you know, he's great. And you can bring out some merch. But I feel like Sting is just a better, I feel like you've seen something that you want to read out. Because you little eyes have little up and you try and guess where I am.

Try and guess what I'm looking at. Are you looking at Murt? Yes, I am. Okay.

There's more than just a t-shirt. There's a hoodie. And there's also, as well, Mrs. Puma.

There's a Puma AW embroidered windbreaker with lots of horses. Really? I love Puma. Puma's my favorite.

That one. Yeah, yeah. I love that. Stop, stop.

Can't we AW cross over it? No, yeah. That's it. But yeah, there's like a hoodie.

There's a snapback cap. There's a t-shirt that looks fucking awesome. I mean, the new Kanyamaiga and new top. I'm not really up for us with that.

I was going into that though. Oh, same to you. It's like, oh, you know, I'm making my bring out a decent t-shirt. Because I've always been like 80% there with buying a Kanyamaiga t-shirt.

I'll just wait for the right one. And they've always just been a tiny little bit off for me to want to buy it. But yeah, that's things shit looks fucking ridiculous. Snapback hoodie.

That sports coat looks amazing. Well, you know, if we're all just now, probably, it'll probably get in February. Yeah, well, we'll probably get it. Probably this time, January.

It's usually about a month. The shipping's shite. Let me just say. It's because of COVID stuff though.

And it's just one shop. So that one shopping Chicago deals with all the orders. Shall we get in touch with AW and say, we'll run your Euro shop from our flat? I think the flat's big enough.

I mean, it's a one bedroom flat. I'd happily give up the whole living room to be a stockroom. And I'll run that. If they paid us a salary, I'd run that.

I'd spend the rest of my days running that shit. Just posting shit to people. We've got a little post office in Monter. We do.

How we like? They'd be fine. They'd get a business account with them and we can just run it. If I fuck having a bed, we'll just, no.

Yeah, we don't. We'll sleep in the kitchen area. Just a mat. Just a mat.

Put the kitchen for stock. We've got to lock up downstairs. We'll sleep in there. We'll sleep in there.

We'll put one of those heaters out on the rain tonight. Yes, fantastic. So yes, fuck me. I was going to go with it.

But what a sign in. What a shock. I mean, because in a few weeks, the snow might have melted. And the fact that they'll put real face, it was melting on the camera.

Yeah, crazy. Well, yeah, that's the thing. That's always the big challenge when you do something like that, is the weeks that come later. Because the big pop, when it's over, you've then got to really make an effort to carve out some sort of place for this person that doesn't make them wilt and look a bit sad.

Yeah, so they've got to keep, you've got to protect him, protect his thing. Oh, God, sorry. Yeah, fuck all this new talent, screw him. I don't want him to hold out or anything.

I just want him to do something within that. That keeps that mystique and doesn't, he's not in a match with fake robots. Yeah, I'll do this. Yeah, I mean, like, what you said, I've been pissing me pants when we were watching the main event.

Oh, the Omega, terminate. Yeah, it's like giving, giving sting flashbacks to the shitty smatch of his life. It's like absolute garbage. That really was probably the worst thing I've probably ever seen at WrestleMania.

Well, we said at the time, and I tried to defend it a little bit by saying, like, oh, it was cool, I think the extra now and the end of the over now. And, you know, that was all all right. But at the time, they've kind of pissed on him a little bit here because he's not even out of proper match. No, shit.

Because from all the other shit matches that go on on that show, because you're talking about the Roman Reigns, Brock Lesnar match, which was doctored until Seth came out. Yeah, Seth Rollins saved that WrestleMania massively. That he was the highlight of that whole show, because it was shite and we watched it live. We got the TV from upstairs when we were in a shared house and carried it.

Well, I didn't. But you carried it downstairs with Jamie into the living room and we sat and watched the whole thing. And I thought it was fucking garage until Seth Rollins cashed in. Yeah.

And that was right at the very end. And it was like outside. He was like, okay, I'll be the only other thing I can remember from that show was the pop-up. Um, I'll go.

Oh, yeah. No, that was good. Right at the beginning, right at the fucking end. Yeah.

It was just a shit, a shambles, I thought, that entire thing. And it was a daylight. It was a day like, it was a day like, a thing coming out in the daylight just didn't work. Neither did fucking robots on little poles was like to rise.

I mean, in the dark, that might have looked mint, but like they didn't think it through at all about the daylight, how naff it looked. No. It was just shit. And the one time, the one time that Triple H puts himself over, it was, it was the wrong.

It was when he's trying to do it. It shouldn't have done that. And it was just such a vanity. Vanity.

The whole story going into it was WWE versus WCW again. And it was just like, well, we don't care now. Well, you signed him. Why do we need to do that?

Like, no one's asked anymore. Like, fuck off. Yeah. No offense to these people.

And everyone's memory is a great, my memory is a great. I don't want to see a load of all blokes come out reliving the youth when someone actually still looks legit. Yeah, yeah, definitely. In the terms of stink and Triple H still look legit.

And then you completely damage your both, you're looking legit, like you're both still going to go and you both look really imposing and scary by these old fucking cod just coming out and fucking. Joining. Well, Colgan, well, well, we're going to have a Nash, coming Nash is too busy in room 101 now. And he acts all day.

Oh, he's all. He's fucking cooking. I was starving. He's slow cooking.

I mean, I'm in room 101. Jo what? I don't know if it was Craig actually. Was it Craig?

I've got to go pass through all that. I actually have a couple of room 101s. It's a do you. I can't think about anything.

Anything shit at the moment. I think Craig has actually put this is awesome. That's a hook hooker. I was like, yeah, get some barbecue pulled pork and that bad boy.

Oh, sure. It's fantastic. No, I can't. It can't be.

It can't be. But anyway, let's not get off. No, no, no. So you have to sing shit.

Then we get to the main event. The main event is what it is. It's a standard match. You know, it's back and forth.

It's great. I mean, I don't know who Don Galis is because I've not watched. I saw a tweet before that responded to you. And they were like, well, see you there.

So you're on Tuesday. And they were like, oh, I think the last time I watched Impact was like 10 years ago. And I was like, yeah, same here. So I don't know who Don Galis is.

So I just assumed he was part of the Impact commentary team. We've Josh Matthews, I think. You can't stand. But yeah, when he started, I mean, it made his eye look fucked.

Yeah, I didn't see that. Legit looked fucked. It looked like, I don't know if he was just putting it on or what. But his eye looked to me.

And the whole like, when the referee was coming out, he's like, oh, he's hurt. Help from the back. I was like, oh, no, please don't have this. It's the screwy thing.

And you know, half of me is thinking, can it is turning up and he's got a costly mocksley because he's got the IWGP US heavyweight case. And he's been tweeting as well, the little shit bag. And he's not turned up yet. But he will.

I'm telling you, there's no smoke. It's crossover city. So yeah. I mean, I think should we start a promotion?

Do you think the world with us? You know, I'm the man who's chamming all the women's cham. It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, all these guys come from. I'll just put a fucking cloak over brick baker and run around and stick her in a limo and be like, I will be talking on RTM on Sunday night or maybe Monday or maybe Wednesday or maybe any day.

I don't know. Whatever we can do that. Again. Yeah.

Whatever we can do. But yeah. So he, you know, trucks in the mic, blading's going on. And then they just run off.

And when they were running off, like as soon as they started running off, I was like, right, here you go. And I turned to you and said, right, Kenton is going to attack him. Now this is how they're going to finish it. And the fact that that didn't happen was so shocking to me when he was just carried on following him and then he said, we'll tell you on Tuesday night, I put the I did piece it together straight away.

And I was like, I instantly fought impact. And then he's like, oh, well, the dynamite is on a Wednesday. And he's like, no, we'll see you on impact wrestling. Legit shocked.

Yeah, it is shocking. And it's you know, with the way that with the way they were talking about it, all these past few weeks, and Vegas done tons of interviews where he said he wants to do crossovers, you know, the NWA thing that they've been doing. Callis has been on commentary when, you know, I saw a few tweets the first time he did it when he was against Hangman. And they said, oh, it's going to be a bit of an impact kind of crossover event.

A few tweets I saw from like a couple of weeks ago talking about this match. People saying, oh, it'd be great because of, you know, they're obviously working with impact in some way. If gallows Anderson turn up and costs, Moxley the belt. So there's a bit of a political reunion.

So all these things are going on. And I'm like, nah, look at everything. I'm like, nah, nah, nah, nah. But then as soon as he said, we'll see you on Tuesday, like I was shocked, but in the head I was like the fucking don't it.

They've done it. They're just going to go for everyone. And they're going to try and get everybody like to work with them. And it's a great, I think it's a great way of doing it.

Because I, you know, like loads of people who've tweeted or since it happened, I've not watched impacts for so long. I tried to watch that paper view when you've got a fucking Tommy dreamer, against moves. I think it was, not, I don't think it was the main event, but for like your heavyweight title, it must be like, you know, I'm not really fussed about that. Gallows and Anderson haven't been enough to pull me in.

Well, I've seen like the thing with Swaggle, which is fucking hilarious, doing the AJ style shit. He just looked like AJ style swaggle. Yeah. Donny with his beard and his hair.

Yeah. Got to say. Which is why it's fantastic. But I saw Anderson do, I think he did a tweet or Instagram because I followed them both.

It was like nothing but love to AJ, but this is just hilarious. AJ all of that. Of course you will. It's the fact that Swaggle came out to style his old music from impact.

It's like so fucking funny. But yeah, I was legit shocked. I was like, oh, I just think it's, and we were before this, we were talking about how, you know, like teaming up with other, it was before that happened. Yeah, we said it, we said it, we said it, whether it was a month ago or something.

But we had it tonight. Yeah, we had it tonight as well about like, it's coming, like coming together, makes them one strong unit against the sort of Tesco in town. You know what I mean? It's like a bunch of indie shops getting together and being like, let's work together to just make ourselves stronger.

So many people are going to tune into impact this week. I think so, yeah. And that's fantastic because it doesn't matter to AEW. It doesn't matter to any of the other promotions.

Together, they're stronger without sounding cheesy. It's true. Like it's so, so true. And I think what I would assume and what I hope is right is that they all trust each other.

There's no trust of WWE. They are out even on the UK scene. They're out to take them down. Totally.

Which is what they did with NXT UK. Really? Let's be honest. They took it down because they created NXT UK.

And they hired everybody. Yeah. And they had the whole thing of all you can all wrestle elsewhere. But the whole aim of that is to create a brand that's massive in the UK because they saw our big ICW was, sorry, progress was, all the other promotions like PCW like all these, all these smaller promotions under that and gone.

Look at all these crowds, look at all these rabid fans. Let's get a piece of this. Hey, and guess what? Let's take all the fucking talent.

The best talent they've all got. It's Simon. That's a shit move. They dressed it up because they just done- And all sorts of the sort of gym from progress as well.

Very quick progress. Exactly. Which was really the only thing. As far as like people in charge was keeping me involved.

Me too. Because the other ones were like, and they've quit since. They've succeeded. They took it down.

By being like, you know, you're a smiling assassin. You know, like people who come in and destroy businesses don't do it. Like they're Jafar. You know, Andy.

They do it like they're fucking- Nobody's true though. They don't, they're not like, they're not, you know, they're not got a spectrum. Like, oh, yeah, so we're going to kill you all. They come in going like, hey guys, this is so great.

We don't want to, oh, we really want to work with you. And then they take the top talent that destroys their company that they had in the meantime. What's left of it after they've stripped of everybody. Because when you take all the best talent out of all the different indie shows into one show and people can only afford to go to one of two shows a year, they're going to go to that one.

So you're literally taking money out the pockets by just being there. Absolutely. Smiling assassins. Whereas it demonstrates by all these companies, like AW Impact, potentially New Japan, you know, like TNA.

Is it impact? No, the other one. What's the one? AW?

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