Hello and welcome to Noah Plaz, just the clap. I'm Doug with me is Deb. Yay. We are son Lizzie.
He is in Seattle giving a speech. Well he's traveling the world for work. Which is great for him but it's sucky for the podcast. Uh, no, let's see, that sounds like a judgment.
Judgment on us or a judgment on him? Judgment on him, actually. Oh God, no, it's not a judgment on him. He's in Seattle giving a speech?
That's fine. No, it's not a judgment on him at all. We're going to talk about how he named my tits after the Avengers. Actually, it's because you said my eyes are up here and then I started laughing.
Because I said it'd be great if somebody named their tits, the whole can Iron Man. I'm wearing an Iron Man Hulk shirt. Needs to be explained. It would probably take a picture and post it on Instagram after this.
Though I realized we made the joke like which one would be which. And I realized that based on political leanings Iron Man would be the right one. So which one do you think would support Trump? Hulk only because he has like a mental deficiency.
Poor Hulk. Yeah. Yeah. Hulk said.
Yeah. It's Trump going after that irradiated monster retard vote. You know what I'm making face. Because you don't like Trump.
Whatever who fucked two in your David Bowie dream? Bowie fucked me. What's your point? Did he really fuck you or did I quite as interrupt us?
No, no, no, no, no. He finished. He knows when to go out. He knows when to stay in.
Kind of love David Bowie so much. Obviously. Yeah, I just don't normally have sex dreams. I was freaking bizarre.
I just imagine it was like that episode of Fleck the Concordes where different eras of David Bowie are coming. He's like, when Jermaine is visiting Brett as David Bowie is different eras. I'm just passionate. Yeah, it's a tremendous visited Brit.
It's different eras. Yeah, yeah. No, my favorite part of that episode is when Brit thinks he's taking David Bowie's advice and puts makeup like lightning bolts on his penis and pulls it out for the greeting part. Oh my god.
Because no, I just like makes it. Make him wrong on the face. Yeah. But I just imagine like you're like, oh David Bowie and he's like, I'm ashes David Bowie.
No, it's so not how the dream was at all. And now it looks like you're kind of banging a pasty tin man from the Wizard of Holes. No. That's what you look like in that video there.
What I'm just saying that that's not how the dream went at all. It was much more current David Bowie even though I know he's married to him all. Which makes me try out in that lady area. Really?
They've been married for like ever and they have a daughter who's, I want to say almost a teenager. But what does that make you dry out? Married men is not a thing for me. Oh, well you're not the one cheating.
That's not the fucking point. It could be? No. I'm sorry, I'm not one of those people.
Marriage is very important. Morely do these. Dude, if you want to be married, don't fucking be married. No, I don't think it's that simple of it.
Let's not get into that. It's just not my thing. Well, that's one Jessica Jones coming after you. Pass.
I don't know. I love a section about Jessica Jones. I sure you would. I would have one.
I would have one. I would have one. I would have one. I'm pretty sure he's married actually.
The actor. Oh. Not Luke Cage. The actor.
No. She really did. She did. She rolled it.
I'm pretty sure that doctor's married actually. No. They just all look like him. Wow.
Taking his old hole here. How do I get an opening? Oh, he lets move the crab a-hole. So the flash.
Oh, we're jumping right to DC TV. Anything to get away from this conversation. So. Yes.
Obviously they have finally done. Speaking of black married people. Oh my God. Joe.
Fuck you. Good segue. No. Terrible segue.
Awesome segue. I really thought it was me that they needed segue. Kind of ruined that. Yeah, I really did.
I was actually that popped in my head. You saw the little thing coming out now ruined the word. Why? No.
So the flash. I thought it was a lackluster mid-season finale. Well, here's the thing is that they're basically they're amping up what's going on with wells. Harry.
Yes. Exactly. I was going on with Harry and he got to see Jesse for like what, like a minute and a half. On screen, but sure.
So probably 30 seconds in real life. But yeah. So basically he's made a deal with the devil, i.e. Zoom.
To make very faster so he can steal his speed. But there's other things going on. There's weird things going on with him and Patty because she doesn't think that he knows what's going on in the real city. Ha ha ha.
Well, next episode. I can't believe that Joe and Patty haven't had an actual conversation about her shooting wells and what's actually happening. Or she's like, hey, you're kind of involved with all this weird meta human shit that you just say don't worry about it. Like, that's huge.
She's the lowest lane of police attacks. Oh my god. She's the lowest lane of police detectives. There you go.
I get, you know, what was going on? Oh god. How much did you love marking him overprising as well as the trickster? I did.
We'll get there in a second. Sorry. Oh no, but I was going to say things I wasn't happy with. Yeah.
Patty being pretty much a dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb is a brick. Her character arc in one episode seemed ridiculous. It seemed really forced. Really forced?
Like reinforced. Like it was, she went from, I'm going to make out with Barry at the top of the episode to, I'm a murderous, like vindictive daughter character. Because I didn't go to the store one day when I was a teenager. Yeah.
And then like the Flash has like one pep talk and she's like, okay, I guess I'll just arrest the weather wizard, which doesn't make any sense because they put it in that iron height. What do they call the pipeline, which is in the comics in iron heights. But yeah, like they're going to put it in the pipeline. So it didn't make any sense.
I want to get off on the weather wizard thing, but I'll wait until we get the rogues. Yeah, like it was a lot of character development, but it seemed very forced. Well, they jumped way into the character. In terms of Patty.
They jumped way into the character development in there because I'm like, I know you're building towards legends. Oh my God. And it felt forced to Joe where he had to like kind of like reconcile. No, he was really sad to him.
He was really happy. He's like, I told him I forgave her. Everything's awesome. I have a kid.
Like, or I have a son. Like, and I can understand the, I have a son kind of overtaking that, but. I did like the scene where he gave Barry the watch. Because he said like, if I had a son.
Like it's like reinforcing that, you know, Barry is still his son. It doesn't matter if Wally West comes into the theatre. Like I said, I did like the reinforcement of that. I also like the fact that Wally is named after his father.
His grandfather. That's what the name of the name of the guy was had. Yes, I like that plot point, but it's just, they chew horned so many things in. Yes.
In terms of the robes, I love Mark Hamble coming back as a trickster. I will always love him. Even though he was so ineffectual. He's so funny.
I loved the whole thing with all of the presents. Oh, we're going to get to that in a second. No, I just, I love the joke about all of the toys coming up to them filled with C4. The Dritals.
Yes, excuse me. The Dritals. I like that in both Flash and Arrow. They make reference to Hanukkah being part of the holidays as well.
I love the joke they have about there not being any Arrow dolls. That correct me. Well, he said like, you know, like murderous vigilante. No, it's who wants that murderous creep as a doll.
I'm just like, oh, that's hilarious. He doesn't have super speed. The guy coming, I don't remember the actress name, the guy who played the second weather wizard, Mark Martin, which is the actual name of the god named weather wizard. My thing is like, how does he wield a wand that should eliminate his powers?
Does it make any sense? I mean, I know the weather wizard has his weather wand, and yes, I'm aware of him. I hope so. That sounds, but like that wand was supposed to suppress his powers, yet he used it to enhance it without having any technical like know-how, which was very strange to me.
That's actually something I really liked about Heatwave and Captain Cold is they made the brief reference to them taking apart their guns and what kind of words. So they know exactly how they were. Yeah, no, I'd like to have with Captain Cold and Heatwave. It's been Captain Cold.
Why was he in this fucking episode? In our Pete shoe-horning in background for Legends of Thrones. The fact that Flash is like you're sucking at a villain, but you're sucking as a hero as well. It's the same throwaway line from that episode of Arrow where Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer says, I don't know what I meant to do yet.
Well, it's the whole thing why Ray Palmer has taken his company back from Felicity. Because he's gonna be a legend of tomorrow. I was gonna fucking leave. In terms of the trickster's presence and how they disposed of them is the most Star Trek original series fucking bullshit science I've ever heard.
We're gonna throw it on the rift where they'll become magnetized and take all the other presence with it. Okay, you know, laugh almost hysterically when they had all the broken out windows from the presence flying out? It was, you know, the thing is, the only reason I will forgive all of the bad science in Flash is because you have lines like when Harrison Wells from Earth to show up to the house goes, your presence. Give them to me.
Or whatever, like your toys. Give them to me. Or when they come across Captain Cold drinking the cocoa out of the reindeer mug and he breaks Barry of all things to be out of mini marshmallows. Like, it's these little cute character nods that I like that make me forgive the horrible science behind them.
Okay, speaking of good character nods, I love the Jay Garrick basically playing dumb for Caitlin for the Christmas. Oh, they're funny. I'm sorry, I thought I was hilarious. Also, Caitlin's description of Missle Toh?
Uh, Caitlin's description of Christmas. No, her description of Missle Toh made me laugh because at some point earlier this week, Bryn said to me, Missle Toh is poisonous if you eat it, to which I responded. A kiss can be even deadlier if you eat it. And we both looked at each other and started laughing hysterically.
Which is not how it happens in the movie. No, that wasn't the exact line, but she knew what I mean. Which by the way, that's gotta be my new Christmas movie because I'll rook her fucking ruined die hard for the rest of us. No, I'm rooking her a right die hard.
Uh, like a year ago, years ago, he was like, oh, my favorite Christmas movie, die hard. And then everyone's like, oh fucking die, it's a Christmas movie, bam bam bam bam bam. And I'm like, why did you just sound like Cosby? Because it felt like I was raped.
Um, I'm still talking, so you have to do. Um, but no, so I guess I had to supplement my now like cool fucking Christmas movie as Batman Returns. Really, my cool Christmas movie is gonna be Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Because none of us are gonna pick Iron Man 3.
It's not even really, you see other car work done. Um, in terms of DC, you have not... I've watched the last episode of Arrow, at least go ahead and go ahead and then it'll be, go ahead and set up on this week. So Lizzie talked about that made it look like they killed Flysson.
I'll say that, uh, when you watch the episode of Arrow, in the, previously, Arrow, um, they show, like, you know, uh, Ollie at the gravestone going, I thought this was my fault, it's not my responsibility. Mm-hmm. Right. They set up three different characters today based on character arc.
I'm a writer, I recognize as shit. Well, it's one of the Adamist questions. The Adam? No, he's gonna be legends tomorrow.
Yeah, but you don't know if he's dead or not. I mean, he totally set himself up to be dead to go join Legends. Like, we don't know the gang thing about Wiccanary either. No, no, seriously, they thought it was dead because of the...
Well, you needed the Wiccan Dwarf explosion, you had to make them become the Adam. They set up Quentin Lance, Laurel Lance, and Flyss... They're not gonna kill Laurel. The more I watch it, the more I think it's gonna be Quentin.
That's bull crap. I think they're gonna kill Dr. It makes sense, but that's bull crap one. I love that actor too.
He's been one of the more... Blackthorn? Yeah, I love him. He's actually in the DCM at a university.
He wasn't a great dresser. Actually, he's a great dresser. He's not much a serious? It's not that place.
Nah, never in the books either. Yeah, no, if you just watch the series as a series, it'd be fine. Because I mean, he's great, but I mean, as a Harry Feistor from the books, not so much. Because Harry Feistor from the books is a little bit more comical.
Harry Blackstone is not comical. I mean, I wish they'd let him grow a little bit more hair, because he always kind of looks like a chemo patient. But I do like him as Chief of Police. Commander?
Captain, excuse me. Captain. I like to story arc in the first season of Arrow. I really liked seeing Arrow as the murder of vigilante.
I like that he didn't... No, he still hasn't really come around to Arrow, but I mean, I like that he didn't work with Arrow until Laurel was in the mix. Who are they going to set up as his police contact? And, you know, it's not fucking Laurel, if they kill Clinton.
It wasn't saying James Gordon. You know, I haven't read that much of the Jedi Winic Run to know if there's another cop. Another cop, yeah. But I mean, there has to be.
I mean, I guess they don't have to. Well, but then, they didn't fight in slash working at the law angles. Well, here you have the whole, like, from Frank Miller's Dark Knight, where you have James Gordon getting out and Ellen Yendell coming in and saying, I will not stand for Batman. I will not stand for vigilante justice.
Dot, dot, dot, hard line, right? And then eventually through the comic, she softens her opinion. Maybe you need someone who lance goes out and goes, you know, he softened on the Arrow. Let's do another hard line on it.
Well, here's the thing, though. If you think about it plot-wise, um, Diggle's wife. What's your name? Do I want?
No. Um, the money worked for... She still works for Argyz. Um, I can't think about it.
No, it's not. Why lack? It makes the most sense. Why lack?
I can see where you went with that one again. I guess, like I said, it makes the most sense that Diggle would die. But why less basically even set up to be a character that's been killed like this? Why less does he smell of a character to kill for a season?
No, absolutely. But what I can say is the series thus far has basically set up Diggle to be a single dad. Uh, but Diggle makes the most sense for the character that he killed in this season. I think it's, at this point, I honestly think it's going to be...
I think it's going to be... I think it's going to be Quentin. I think it's going to be Quentin. I would say Laurel, but like...
No, in terms of the green arrow mythology, you need Black Canary. I know that there's the whole thing, that he was going to propose to Felicity and whatever, and I don't think they're going to kill Felicity to get out of that. I think that Felicity is going to break up with him because he lied to her twice, even though there was time traveling. Once.
Technically once. It's twice the series where he's behind me. You don't think it might be Theo. At this point?
No, I think that... They're not going to have character development on Theo. The actor plays Roy Harper, whose name is escaping me right now. Colton Hayes.
Colton Hayes is set to come back for at least two episodes. This season? Yeah. Unless he does some major work on Theo, I don't think it's going to be quite nice.
Okay. Well, you know Ryan was the one that called it on who killed Sarah. He did? Yeah, he called Theo really early.
And he's saying that, but yeah, but he said Theo was going to be in the grave. We'll see what happens. It's very sharp, but he could still be right there Theo's in the grave, but just for a different reason. I missed the moment in the nightclub.
Verdant? There it is. Another word for green. There it is.
And just to kind of cap the DC talk. Nobody likes Supergirl? That's not... I wouldn't consider that necessarily DC TV.
No, there have been rumors. No, it's just none of us. There have been rumors that Flash and Supergirl are going to crossover. Said none of us likes Supergirl.
I mean, other people do, but none of us do. Well, there was a big reveal that I actually want to see. It doesn't make any goddamn sense if we're in the comics. But apparently, apparently her boss at the...
Cool list of Lockhart? No, no, no, the one at the Alien Tracking. Whatever. It's not DOA, but it's Department of...
Oh, what the fuck is the name of that goddamn thing in DC? But it's like a metahuman shield for DC. The lead character, her boss, or Supergirl is like Liaison. Hank Henshaw, who in comics, becomes the cyborg Superman.
Oh, so list deal. No, no, exact opposite actually. Another Batman, it was so sealed, come on. Yes, yes.
Oh, god, I talked about an episode that gives you the feels. Oh. And then he comes back. He comes back to two parts, fucking phenomenal.
Place of the feels. All the feels. And whether did you get a little misty during Flash? At any point.
At any point. At any point. I actually was pete at the end. I think they kind of did.
They told us out when they introduced Wally West, and they don't show them having to introduce him to Barry. Good. Not... They invited me.
Yes, they invited me in, but I mean they didn't really show. Oh, well, see where that next episode. They didn't show Barry connecting to him, which is very used as part of the family. Barry is basically his brother.
I mean, I know he's not blood, but still. I'm just wondering if the kid Flash costume is going to hold up on the screen. That will. No, not well at all.
It will look like River Flash. But that Hank Henshaw ends up becoming Superborn Superman. Superborn? Super.
Cyborg Superman. Who, for all intents and purposes, is Matropolis's anti-Christ. He's been revealed to be Martian Manhunter. Well, I actually do like that.
Damn it. Damn you CBS for being a dick and not putting your shit on Hulu. It almost makes me want to watch it for a second. I'm like, I just want to see the reveal of him becoming...
And it's like the new 52 Martian Manhunter. He's all like super fucking militant and shit. Like he doesn't look like... That might be really interesting.
The fact that like the head of an alien hunting government program is Martian Manhunter? Here's the thing is that you watch the League pilot like I did. The... Oh, yes.
Did you want to watch the series? No. Exactly. But this Martian Manhunter reveal?
How does it make you want to watch it? So do we want to talk about the Lucifer trailers that have been coming out on? It's coming out in January, which is where movies go to die, and I imagine that the same with shows. No, actually that's when they're launching Legends.
Oh, right, because it's been season. Sorry. When you set something for a mid-season, you either have a lot of faith in it or no faith in it. It's not a middle ground.
Well, I think Legends is going to take off. I mean, honestly, that's not... Oh, for instance, I've already tilted like Gracie and Frankly, I'll watch it just for Sarah. I'll watch it for Brandon Roth.
Well... I'll watch it for Hawkerel and whatever that dickbag's name is. Hawkerel, not man. Well, I know what his name is, but I don't know what the actor's name is, or the character's name is.
It's like Carter or something. Paul. Like I said, I'm sorry, he did exactly zero to endear himself to anyone that episode. Well, I was talking.
He doesn't have to impress anybody. He's goddamnit's up saying that. Lucifer, I don't have high hopes for. Well, no, it's the series.
The series might be okay if I hadn't read the comics. The problem is I read the comics and it sucks. The comics were interesting and they had mythology and they had goals and they had interesting other things coming into them. This is just, you know, the devil taking a vacation and punishing people.
It's the poor man's eye zombie with the devil. That's what it is. It actually just makes me think of, you know, when Tony Soprano actually went to go see a therapist. The first episode?
No, it was later on in the series and he makes some kind of friends and tied, stoked at her and sends her a bunch of tied. What do you find that is in therapy in the first episode? No, but it's later on in the series. It's not important.
But like I said, it's just one of those things where I'm like, this is stupid and I hate it. And I hate the fact that somebody optioned this and then fucking like perverse distorted it into this thing. You're done with Lucifer? Yes.
Yeah. I really liked the Lucifer comics. I liked the Lucifer comics a lot. I thought they were interesting.
I thought they were a fair representation of the devil that Sam and had built. This is fucking not. And I like the lead actor. I like the lead actor a lot.
I fucking hate him in the series. If they made it more like, if they learned, I don't think they did anything like that. That's very true. In the first appearance of Lucifer and Sam and you looked a lot like that.
I don't think there are a lot of lessons to be learned when I say this. But I think if they didn't do the devil helping a cop self murders, I think if they went more like a cult detective, all a Constantine? It's just one of those things where it's like, hey, you know how Constantine failed? Let's make it shittier.
Yeah. Exactly what the series makes me think of. Like I think Constantine was on the wrong network in the wrong time slot. But still.
And it was a slow burn. It shouldn't have been. Here's the thing. Fox does not keep serious.
They don't perform. And this is on Fox. It's going to get kicked in the car like pretty much right away. Yep.
Yep. I haven't watched the pilot. Yeah. It's like I really...
It was a verbal not-trivant. To talk about Fox, I really liked Minority Report. I thought they were doing interesting things with it. I hated their B story.
I thought it was stupid. But like I said, I really liked what they were doing with Minority Report. And Fox is quote unquote trimmed to their order. Which basically means they're canceled and they're trying to sell it to someone else.
Yeah. But no one else is going to buy it. Which is too bad. I've got a Minority Report through the show and it's not going to go.
They think Lucifer is going to do better than that. No. It's not for far more failure. It won't.
And I guess I like the lead actor on what Tom... Elle... Don't look it up. Don't look it up.
It's Tom Ellis. Something like that. But like I said, he's a pretty well-known British actor. And I liked him in other things that he's doing.
And he suits Lucifer perfectly. The character. It's just the premise. He's not going to put enough material.
Well then he's like teaming up with a cop who's somehow immune to his like devilish charms. It's so... It's so... It's so...
He's blocking it. I'm like chocolate chip cookies to her. Did it smell like chocolate chip cookies? You know he's the one who invented the concept of marriage.
I'm sorry, continue on. You want to talk about the TV's Mutant Ninja Turtles trailers? No, let's actually move. I want to slant through this a little bit.
We've got half the time. We've got the time. We've got the time. Mid-season or otherwise.
The Doctor Who season of Valley happened. Sir Doctor Who. Got a haul passing everything. I'll start with the easy stuff.
There's a new sun screwdriver. It's not Sonic's sunglasses. No! That shit's gone.
Thank you for having me. He has a fucking screwdriver. He has his old dart his back. Because at one point he stole a new TARDIS.
Which I will get to in a moment. Which is things I don't like about this season. He's one of those things where he did Moffat take a vacation and somebody's like, you know what you should do is try to update the shit. And then he put his name on his glasses and put a new TARDIS in and Moffat got back.
He's like, you're so fucking fired and I fixed him all of his crap. Two episodes. Actually, no, this season kind of ended on a feminist note. You didn't have Clara being alive.
Her death is a fixed time in space that she has to go back to. But for all the potential purposes she's flying around the galaxy with what's her name from Gaveth Realms. Maisie? Maisie Williams?
Mm-hmm. Until she has to go back and literally face the raven, which if you haven't sent up a soap that won't make any sense. But if you have it, well, we're never going to get that spin off. We're not going to get the Clara me spin off.
I don't want it. Though I forgot to actually send you the sort of track scene flow chart. You know, my favorite little guy, the Butler for the... Yeah, never.
I'll have to show you that later. But I like that they were turning the doctor kind of back to his roots. He fought and defeated Galifrey. Did he play his guitar at all?
No. Sorry, nobody can see us high-fiving. And he's got a song to go over back. They were turning this doctor back to his roots.
I swear I got it. It was either Malthick's own vacation or he's own weird acid trip. I would go acid trips. I don't think he wrote some of the season or they put his name on it.
I appreciate that. Once again, I talked about it. They wanted to ring doctor who kind of... Full circle.
Not full circle. They want to make him hip. Cool. The doctor has always been cool, all right?
Especially with pet mids and herd rapes. To make him like Annie's punk was... It was a radical decision and it didn't work out. And they were turning on the form they gave us on a screwdriver.
If he's on his own, there's not any leads on who could be a new companion. It's not like, oh, is it going to be Danny Pink? Like, no, it's not. So basically we're getting what I wanted a season ago, which is a fresh start on the 12th doctor.
Still don't like the part of the book. Or 12th and a half depending on how you want to do the war doctor. But I think your opinion of the doctor, of the quality of the doctor will change on the next season. Yes, but all of the dark lane sunglasses didn't help.
No, and like I said, I think the next season of Doctor Who is going to change her mind. I think outside of that, he finally revealed why he chose the face he did, which we talked about weeks ago. I think this doctor is finally going to have a season to come into his own. You had fresh starts with Tenant with Smith.
You know, Nicholson. I mean, and go further back, like, again, like with the movie. Which, yeah, okay. The movie's rough.
Like I said, but Nicholson, he had pretty much anything you could do. Like I said, with Tenant even, he had one season of backstory, well, one season of recent backstory he had to play off of. And honestly, but Smith, he had room, but he made the most of all the room he had to play with. Well, and they went, okay, so you've been like, how like the fun doctor?
It's time for you to get dark in the rings of Occamet or whatever it was episode. When he's like screaming at the thing that eats like life and time, he's like, take it all! Like you want my fucking pain? Fuck and take it!
And Smith provided like that gravitas. I think Capaldi hasn't had a chance to come out from the shadows of his predecessor. I don't think Capaldi's had a chance to come out of his predecessor. Can you say he was a great actor?
I don't like him to the doctor. Here's my thing, he came into it with a pre-existing companion, and I think that can be good drama, but it wasn't. No, we liked her. And not to not declare as detrimental, but like it's...
She's not the pollen, so sorry. She's not she's not Rory or Amy Pond. Like it's a hard act to follow. And so is Capaldi coming into Matt Smith's shoes.
I mean... Give him a Matt Smith smaller, followed Tenant. That's a hard fucking act to follow. And that first episode he pulled it off, like oh what a nose.
Oh, it's the not ginger. I said no, it's just he came in to the doctor after Tenant's and all of us were like I don't think anybody can do it. Well it's like oh who's this young guy we've never heard of? Like I said he brilliantly surprised me and I'm not saying episode one and it took him a whole season to win me over and I'm like okay maybe this is okay.
And then it was like incremental wins over the season for you like Matt Smith. I think Capaldi needs the way that Matt Smith had. Matt Smith had like that Dean's Run storyline. What'd you love?
Oh yeah. I think Capaldi needs that. I think it will happen next season. Unfortunately I think the actors that play Missy is gonna be on a different show.
I think that might be Gotham. I'm not kidding. You should have gotten Gotham. I don't know.
Catwoman. I don't know. That's Sinead Kyle, Articast. Um.
She doesn't think of a funny fucking character. No it's not that. Um. I don't know Nora Fries.
No that doesn't work. Oh that's not quite a character at all. Hi, I want to be out of combo for an entire season and then do nothing. What are you thinking about?
So if you give me the feels, heart of ice. Yeah, well then that revolutionized Mr. Fries. And repeat.
Episodes that give you the feels. And what an Emmy. Mad love. Uh, Mad love did not win an Emmy.
What heart of ice did that? Yeah what it gives you the feels. Mad love gave you the feels. The origins probably planned.
How did that give you the feels? Dude, she fell in love with a crazy guy. Completely twisted her and she's going to love him forever even though he's physically and mentally abusive. How did it not give you the feels?
Because I'm listening. Do you not remember the actual, I don't know if it might be in the DC animated universe where he's been in the world. Universe where he literally throws her out a window and she says I just didn't get the joke. There's one where she comes out.
I remember one where she comes out of the place and the pudding pine goes, don't you want to rev your Harley? And he's like, not tonight. I have to kill Batman. Or there's a bed.
Something along those lines. Yeah. Like, and then he like kicks a hyenas or. Like I said, I remember the don't you want to rev your Harley.
But like I said, it's just one of those things where she's like the archetype of the abused woman that won't leave. Well, you know what you say though. There have been a lot of writers in the comments that have taken her away from that. Yeah, I love her and boys and I get together.
I love that. And you and she well, it's not so said squad, but it's a secret six that she kind of comes into her own as well. Like I said, I love her on her own, but there's so much of her that's just completely tied in and fucked up with the Joker. Did you see the assault on a salt on Arkham?
No. Where they're basically they're brought into like a brick of the riddler because he's got like a code in his cane or whatever. Do, do, do, do, do, do. And how those suicide squad boys gonna flab without flab when they're wings like an ass or something.
Or they're ass like wings. Those suicide boys better learn how to fly or you grow wings out of their ass. There you go. But at one point, she pulls a guard's gun on the Joker and he bulletproof cage and just starts unloading and gets like three headshots.
The glass doesn't break because you know, they're like, they're not bulletproof cage. But like, and Joker's like, oh, still not over it. And she's like, huh? Move it on.
I just, in my head shot you three times in the head. What else do we have on the whiteboard? So that would be fantastic. I do want to say there was- But it's fantastic because it's making up for mistakes during the series.
There was a moment where Doctor Hook can slow his own mental progression while he's on his way to die. Like he kind of goes into his own head. Just say my palace. Yeah.
And he imagines Clara writing things on a chalkboard to help him figure things out. And she goes, you have to win. Can I ask you a question, man? Of course.
In terms of Doctor Hook, how does the Doctor feel about winning versus survival? Because in- The Doctor's always survival versus winning. He would always choose survival over winning. Why?
Because then he could fight another day. But does he consider winning in his own head? He considers survival winning. I don't know.
But they aren't mutually exclusive. I mean, I- I don't know. Or they are mutually exclusive. I think they are mutually exclusive.
I don't think winning even comes into the equation that he said. I think survival is always the number one. Okay. He's a time lord.
Look at the incarnation of the note. I don't think he even comes about it. I think he's like outside to fight another day. Ha ha!
But I think he looks at like as a math equation that someone else doesn't have the answer to. And I think he looks at it like, I'm better than you. I'm always finished in the end. Aha!
No, I just don't. It just seemed really weird that he was stuck in this time loop in his own will and testament his confession disc. They call it throughout the whole season. Well, it makes sense considering how Dushi he's been the entire season.
But the fact is that when he, quote unquote, sees Claire or writes something on a board, says, win. Underline, ungoing. Is that win or survive? That was a really good joke.
Can you catch it? So we go. Does that mean he has HIV? What does that mean?
He said win. Can I drive the shooting joke? No, because I've been playing Charlie Chingles. No, no, no, no.
You're not the list. We're the ruinable list. Right, everyone to the list. What have I been doing this week?
I'm watching old family guy. Okay. Okay. Do you want to talk about that?
Oh, so, um, yes, I can't. Before I get in the money. They're very short. Okay, so my season, the Mindy Project, got cancelled off of Fox and got picked up on Hulu.
Oh, really? Yeah. You didn't realize that? No.
Oh, shocking, because you didn't watch it. No. It's a much better fit for the show. Like I said, because Fox does not reward programs that take risks and make it interesting.