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EPISODE · Jul 17, 2026 · 45 MIN

#133 Meditation Expert: Why Your Mind Won't Shut Up | Ariel Garten, Muse Co Founder

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In today's episode, we welcome back Ariel Garten, co-founder of Muse. Ariel is a neuroscientist and former psychotherapist whose brain-sensing technology is used by NASA, the Mayo Clinic, and hundreds of thousands of everyday meditators worldwide.In this conversation, we discuss why meditation feels so hard to stick with, what's actually happening in your brain during those first few weeks of practice, and how to teach even young kids to self-regulate with their breath. We also get into why silence can feel so uncomfortable, whether you can trust your own thoughts, and Ariel's take on using meditation to sit with physical pain rather than fight it.Want to try Muse? It's a headband that reads your brain activity in real time while you meditate, so instead of guessing whether you're doing it right, you get instant feedback that guides you back to focus. Get 15% off Muse at https://choosemuse.com/tadb0:00 – The Problem With Meditation3:07 – What Meditation Does To Your Brain5:23 – Muse vs Meditating Alone8:09 – Teaching Kids To Meditate13:10 – The Fear Of Silence16:15 – Does Location Matter?17:47 – Can You Trust Your Thoughts?20:42 – Talking Back To Your Inner Critic23:05 – Sitting Still vs Walking Meditation26:20 – Meditation In A Crisis28:21 – Is Pain Good Or Bad?36:28 – How Muse Improves Your SleepWant to try Muse? It's a headband that reads your brain activity in real time while you meditate, so instead of guessing whether you're doing it right, you get instant feedback that guides you back to focus. Get 15% off Muse at https://choosemuse.com/tadb

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In today's episode, we welcome back Ariel Garten, co-founder of Muse. Ariel is a neuroscientist and former psychotherapist whose brain-sensing technology is used by NASA, the Mayo Clinic, and hundreds of thousands of everyday meditators worldwide. In this conversation, we discuss why meditation feels so hard to stick with, what's actually happening in your brain during those first few weeks of practice, and how to teach even young kids to self-regulate with their breath. We also get into why...

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